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Teejay
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Member # 7276
Posted February 19, 2004 09:20 AM
Madan,

please tell us where u are from. You dont have any nice thing to say about the UK, neither have u any kind words for India.


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my first impression of London is not very good...
if you are intending to settle down abroad and looking for a good quality of life, then UK is not the place to be...
whereas, if all you want is to earn as much as you can, and go back to India, then, well maybe you can stay in this "dump" called London, save as much as you can and shoot back to India.
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This place reminds me of India too much... bereaucracy everywhere, things not working, public transport is horrible, people are rude -- exactly the things that made me get out of India.

Having seen what the UK is, I am not surprised. Infact I am getting the feeling that most of the bureaucracy in India has been passed on from Britain.

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Methinks, u are just one confused human being. You should have the decency to watch your words in such a place like this forum. Moreover, I believe a larger percentage of the people on this forum are intelligent and skilled.

The fact that one person's use of english language is not as good as another's is no reason to denigrate such a person. And, as decent people we should all refrain from criticising others unduly.

Please let sanity reign ...........................

TJ

fard
Junior Member
Member # 7509
Posted February 21, 2004 05:26 AM
Hi all,

I think this guy Madankumars has gone mad and should be kicked out of the board.
Either this guy is quite frustrated with his life or he wants to misguide others.

Fard

SmokeyD
Junior Member
Member # 7311
Posted February 21, 2004 10:32 AM
Madankumars, if you don't mind, are you the same person as the Madankumar's on the immigration.com (US immigration) forum?

I don't mean to pry. I'm just curious.

SmokeyD

Joseph01
Member
Member # 7141
Posted February 21, 2004 12:40 PM
I don't think Mandankumars should be kicked off the Board. Guys like him make the discussion more interesting!

Besides, there's been very little posting activity as of late!

Joseph

Indian Boy
Junior Member
Member # 7629
Posted February 21, 2004 08:30 PM
madan, if you don't mind, do you have the phones/emails of the agents you used when moved to uk?
Kayalami
Member
Member # 5984
Posted February 22, 2004 03:44 PM
Where arst thou Peteris - we need a clean up here

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Cosmopol
Member
Member # 7165
Posted February 23, 2004 06:16 AM
Yeah, that looks garbled to me as well

Maybe Yana can change the post before the [WP].com staff finds the time...

[ February 23, 2004: Message edited by: Cosmopol ]

Teejay
Member
Member # 7276
Posted February 23, 2004 09:31 AM
Hello Everyone,

I thought I had strayed to another site or forum on reading Yana's posting.

Are you sure we wont need someone to translate all that into plain and simple english.

This forum is getting muddled once again. Can we have some sanity in here, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

TJ

Joseph01
Member
Member # 7141
Posted February 23, 2004 10:27 AM
Cosmopol / Teejay

I don't know if Yana will change it (perhaps he has a new agenda). But Madankumars provided a translation in the separate string http://www.workpermit.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=004822

quote:

"Madanbhai Shanti Rakho" -- Brother Madan, Keep Peace!
I dont know the rest

Joseph

Teejay
Member
Member # 7276
Posted February 23, 2004 11:06 AM
Hi,

are you sure someone is not taking us for a ride?


TJ

Dip
Member
Member # 4428
Posted February 23, 2004 11:17 AM
"Madanbhai Shanti Rakho"

TJ,
Thats in one of the native Indian languages ... from the State of Gujarat.

I think Yana may have cut past something more in that language that got garbled somehow.

Rgds
Dip

Teejay
Member
Member # 7276
Posted February 23, 2004 12:51 PM
Dip,

thanks. One needs tro be careful in here. What with Madan and his tirades.

Yana,

Do u mind translating what u have written into plain english for us all.

Regards.


TJ

Beckam
Junior Member
Member # 7546
Posted February 24, 2004 02:36 PM
Hello members, Please stop responding to madankumars' posts...

This guy is JEALOUS AND SELFISH. He just want to stop any more people coming to UK through the HSMP scheme. Some of you remember how hard he was trying to get to the UK in the last year (before applying for HSMP under the new criteria). He even tried to come to UK on WHM visa but BC in Australia refused his application. This guy has forgotten his past. Now he is trying to mislead everybody here. If extra points for HSMP applicants under the age of 28 was not granted by the Home Office this man would not be here in the UK today.

I don't think he has got any decent job in IT. He may be working in a tamil grocery shop in East London or selling Big Issue. Ignore him guys & gals.

http://www.workpermit.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=004269

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guys...
just to let you know that my WHM visa was refused yesterday by the EC Officer at British High Commission Canberra.

I am an Indian Passport holder in Australia on a work permit, working as an IT Professional.

The consular officer asked me whether my AUS work permit will be cancelled if I go to the UK for a period of 2 years - I said yes.

She also asked how many times have i switched jobs here in Australia - i said 3 times in the 3 years that I have been here.

She therefore concluded that I am not "settled" in my Australian Job, and am going to the UK to seriously seek employment, and is not convinced that I am intending to return back to India at the end of 2 years.

--Now a question to Kaya--

Do you think its worthwhile appealing against the decision? how long does an appeal usually take to process?

i want to appeal on the grounds that not being "settled" actually makes it easier for me to apply for a working "holiday" visa. normally people who are well settled in their jobs will usually find it difficult to apply for such type of a visa.

also, now that it is legally possible to "switch" to a work permit (leading to settlement), i dont understand why the consular officer decides not to issue me the visa stating that i may not come back. isnt it obvious that i will not come back if i get a company to sponsor my work permit after 1 year?

please let me know your comments...

thanks


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[ February 24, 2004: Message edited by: Beckam ]

madankumars
Member
Member # 5174
Posted February 24, 2004 02:47 PM
ha ha ha...

this just proves the past history of people coming into this country (and the future of how this country is going to be with such people around)


and if someone actually finds a good job nobody is willing to believe.

a classic case of where a person with sight is the odd man out in a city of the blind.

i really dont have to prove myself to anyone.

i posted my contact details on this site for a couple of hours and all i get is a mass of virus emails to my office id.

if that makes u happy, ofcourse thats what i do. Your beloved home office is still going to extend my HSMP after 1 year.

either way i am not the loser!

madankumars
Member
Member # 5174
Posted February 24, 2004 02:55 PM
i forgot to add...

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He just want to stop any more people coming to UK through the HSMP scheme.
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its people like u mate...

Teejay
Member
Member # 7276
Posted February 24, 2004 03:04 PM
Madan,

have a heart mate. Dont you ever get tired? Some of your postings are quite odious and offensive.

Please try and show some decency here. We dont need to get into arguments or fights over here.

It is quite unfortunate that this forum is being turned to an avenue for airing such infuriating and stupid ideas like I see posted in recent times.

Please lets devote our time to something meaningful. Right?

Arguments and fights will never yield any positive results.

Madan, please lets stop all this bickering. Its distracting and unproductive.

Regards


TJ

Joseph01
Member
Member # 7141
Posted February 24, 2004 05:53 PM
quote:

I don't think he has got any decent job in IT. He may be working in a tamil grocery shop in East London or selling Big Issue.

I don't think the above comment is very nice either. I also disagree with a lot of Madan's comments and opinions but I don't think he should be suppressed. I think some debate can be helpful for this Board.

There's nothing wrong with getting HSMP after a WHM rejection, and if he qualifies under HSMP (old or new rules), fine! If he found a suitable job, better yet! Contrary to his recent bad "PR efforts", Madan has made a few good contributions to this Board!

Joseph

[ February 24, 2004: Message edited by: Joseph01 ]

Kayalami
Member
Member # 5984
Posted February 24, 2004 06:00 PM
BTW - Madan your photo by the London Bridge/Tower of London environs makes you AFAIK the only visible/ known member of the board unless that was a body double . Anyway the venue was quite apt given the hanging you are getting from the board - try and keep things in perspective although differing opinions remain a feature of all boards.

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Dip
Member
Member # 4428
Posted February 24, 2004 06:34 PM
While on the subject .......IMHO what one should object is consistency in posting crap. A striking example is Studyuk2004 - A total waste of DNA. I only ever respond to him if he tries to be rude to others. I am sure he knows by now what to expect when he cuts loose...

In the absence of a Moderator, we have no choice but to self-police the site, which I think we have hitherto.

Regards
Dip

Beckam
Junior Member
Member # 7546
Posted February 25, 2004 12:26 AM
quote:
I don't think the above comment is very nice either.

If this guy was an highly skilled and educated with a decent job he wouldn't be posting nonsense here. I think he is jobless and deperately trying to get one. Anyway, good luck to him. If he is a Big Issue vendor I wouldn't mind buying one for a fiver.

Reply to some of his earlier posts:-

quote:
I'd definitely be disappointed if HomeOffice increases the time to 2 years.

I'd definitely be disappointed if HomeOffice approves your HSMP visa extension after 1 year.

quote:
Already the HSMP has become NSHSMP (not so highly skilled migrant programme) coz millions of Indians will pass the under 28 assessment.

You call yourself a Not-So-Highly-Skilled-Migrant (NSHSM), that's funny. Show this title on your CV.

quote:
why so much fuss about this? Its very clear. The ECO in Madras is unaware of the HSMP rules.

Yeah you are right. That's why you got EC from Madras ECO. If you had applied for EC in Australia it would have been refused, b'coz you are an NSHSM.

[ February 25, 2004: Message edited by: Beckam ]

fard
Junior Member
Member # 7509
Posted February 25, 2004 05:37 AM
Madankumars,

As i said before you should not only be kicked out out of the forum, but should receive 100 whippings as punishment for creating such a bad atmosphere on this forum.
This forum is sharing your experiences with others and if you want to use the forum just for abusing others, then better don't post here and just keep your mouth shut O.K-----


fard

Yana
Junior Member
Member # 7507
Posted February 25, 2004 09:36 AM
Madan and others,

I hv got my ILR yesterday. Madan if you think HSMP is easy .....ILR is easier. You walk in, pay 250 bucks and walk out. In a year I will be citizen. Now with dual citizenship......I dont loose Indian citizenship (which I am very proud of.)

BTW......I think your comments are matter of fact to some extent. You are right in saying that millions in India qualify for HSMP easily. I think the HSMP criteria is basic criteria (except for earnings) in India to get a job. No one in India will call a CA, ME or MBBS - Highly Skilled because - they are below 28, their spouse is bachelor, they have experience over 5 years and they earn some Rs. 500000.

But that doesn't mean those who want to should not come to the UK. Let them try their own skills and luck. And if the UK does requires them and us all - who are we to object or stop that !!!

So enjoy and let others enjoy !!! BTW....for the salary you mentioned GBP 52 K - I believe in it. At the moment you will get 100s of IT jobs as the market here is getting good -provided your skill is in demand (that itself does not mean your HIGHLY skilled). Real challenge is getting jobs with salary above GBP70 K as the High Level managerial job market is not yet improved much - I believe those are really meant for HIGHLY SKILLED.

Teejay
Member
Member # 7276
Posted February 25, 2004 09:43 AM
Hello,

I think Mdan has gotten enough hiding over his unguarded utterances. For now, I think he should be left alone.

Once again, shall we face more fruitful discussions.

Thanks all.

TJ

Dip
Member
Member # 4428
Posted February 25, 2004 11:06 AM
Yana - congratulations on your ILR.

Regards
Dip

madankumars
Member
Member # 5174
Posted February 25, 2004 01:57 PM
hey beck.. i did not get my HSMP from Madras. I got it in Sydney.

I am really am surprised that so many ppl have got the time to fish out my old posts. got a lot of spare time after selling "Big Issue"? and that too beck, can't even fish out my old posts properly, coz u r wrong abt where i got my HSMP. you've failed :-0

Yana - congrats dude. happy for you. i hope to do the same back in australia in a couple of years :-).

i never stopped anyone or discouraged anyone from applying. what really surprises me is the kind of blind love they have for a country that they haven't even seen.

BTW 70K is not far off, provided i am here for 2 more years. i might shoot off as soon as i get my Aus pr.

Kay

thanks. AFAIK i don't have a body double :-). btw which post has the link to my snaps? i gotta remove it.

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