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| Gardini Junior Member Member # 1365 | Posted January 05, 2002 01:39 AM Hi Folks! I have this urge to help, so here some reality and guidelines about obtaining a German "green card" 1. The word "green card" is just political bs. It is a very binding and controlled form of work permit. You cannot work for another employer on the same work permit and it will never be extended more than 5 years 2. you generally will get a permit from 1-3 years depending on the "mood" of the officer. 3. Free info in English is avalable on the following site: http://www.bma.bund.de/download/broschueren/a987engl.pdf Detailed info about the exact procedure to follow. Do not try emailing me! |
| Gardini Junior Member Member # 1365 | Posted January 05, 2002 01:53 AM Details of the process: 1. First your employer must apply for the Zusicherung der Arbeitserlaubnis. This is the unofficial “Green Card”. This takes 2 working days as prescribed in the following document: http://www.arbeitsamt.de/hst/international/37_2000.pdf Documents Needed by your employer: Your GERMAN employer must apply for this permit at the Arbeitsamt. Note that if you are a citizen of Canada/US/Switzerland you do not need to go the consulate. You still need this but you do not need an Type-D entry visa. 2. YOU Apply for Aufenthaltserlaubnis (also called Aufenthaltsgenehmigung). This can be done after entrering Germany on a Type D visa. This is the Residence Permit - a visa sticker which must be attached to the Passport. This generally takes 1-2 days. hope this helps! |
| Victoria Member Member # 6 | Posted January 05, 2002 08:54 PM Thank you for this. Much of this information is already available on workpermit.com's pages: please remember that workpermit.com have a great deal of experience in making these applications, and it may be easier for your employer in Germany to outsource the paperwork and red tape to us. -------------------- Regards, Vicky Victoria Sharkey |
| Witt Member Member # 567 | Posted January 05, 2002 10:03 PM quote: frankly speaking, Vicky, there is almost nothing on your site regarding German IT work permits (aka Green Cards), only invitations to consult workpermit.com Nobody blames you though. By the way - I have a question for you - I filled in your IT assesment form (forgot the exact name of the thing) on this site about 2 weeks ago and never heard back - the same was with your affiliate sybersolve Is my area of expertise (information security) too unusual to handle compared to programmers' or is it just Christmas? |
| lehlshabeg Junior Member Member # 1405 | Posted January 07, 2002 07:57 PM i am a student of computer science and engineering and am supposed to be attached as a trainee for 6 months as a part of the course curriculum.can i apply for this training in germany.what is the threat to indian software workers in germany |
| Gardini Junior Member Member # 1365 | Posted January 08, 2002 03:45 AM lehlshabeg, the threat is no greater than you walking out of your home in India. If you are a man, you better not be concerned about such issues as "threat". Be a man for heavens sake! If you are a woman, you dont need to worry much either. The "neo-Nazis" are over-rated villians...unless you live in Berlin. In General, Germany is one of the safest places on the planet. Certainly much safer than the US! |
| link Member Member # 768 | Posted January 08, 2002 02:14 PM Gardini, You cannot avoid the issue of threats just by saying I am man. On two occassions I was beaten by "skin heads" and I have tell you it is not a funny thing and I was lucky I did not end up in hospital. This friend needs thorough information and I think someone of his race/origin currently staying in Germany should answer him. |
| Victoria Member Member # 6 | Posted January 08, 2002 07:40 PM It is just Christmas, but I am sorry about this. I have contacted my colleagues who deal with Germany and drawn this to their attention. -------------------- Regards, Vicky Victoria Sharkey |
| Marcis Member Member # 4 | Posted January 09, 2002 10:22 AM Hi Gardini, and everyone else: Although Gardini has provided some valuable info here, not all that he writes is correct. To begin with, the 'German Green Card' is definitely not just a 'political BS', as Gardini labels it. It is a radically simplified German work permit application process for highly skilled IT specialists. Since its introduction in August 2000, more than 10.000 foreign IT specialists have used this opportunity to come to Germany to work for the computer industry there. While a 'conventional type' German work permit takes 2-3 months to process on average, a German Green Card may be obtained in 2-4 weeks (incl. time for postal deliveries, visa application etc.). Now, the processing in the employment office itself may take from a few hours up to a few weeks (there are as much as 176 regional employment offices in Germany that handle GGC and other WP applications). While there is an internal regulation that obliges the employment offices to process GGC apps within 1 week max. (or 2 days, if possible), the workload on the offices varies extremely. As a result, while a Green Card approval may be granted within a few hours in Aachen, the same process may take up to two weeks in Frankfurt. Most of what Gardini has written on the docs needed for a GGC and subsequent German entry visa application is correct, but yet again, not all. For example, a full labor contract is generally not required for the initial application for a German Green Card approval; a German residence registration (Meldebescheinigung) is never needed at this stage, etc. Some people might find all this bureaucracy jargon rather confusing, just as the varying requirements of the 176 offices with regard to application documents. This is part of the reason why we do not overload our website with this kind of info. As Victoria says, although some people may try and do the whole application himself, others will still prefer to leave the paperwork to a competent consultant, like WP.com. Anyone, feel free to e-mail your questions to germany@workpermit.com, and we will get back to you in a matter of days. (Witt, when did you e-mail us your query? Are you sure it has actually gotten through to us?) Regards, Marcis Gobins -------------------- Marcis Gobins, Consultant |
| Witt Member Member # 567 | Posted January 09, 2002 12:30 PM quote: Dec 19th, 2001 to itjobs@workpermit.com It was a general request under your "IT assessment" scheme. I have not got any "undeliverable" reports back - so it was received... And I considered sending mails with "read receipt request" turned on a bit rude, so I do not know if anybody actually read my message |
| Marcis Member Member # 4 | Posted January 09, 2002 02:48 PM quote: Sorry then; actually, we are just in the process of reorganizing our system of dealing with the general "IT assessment" inquries. In the meantime, I would advise you to use the country-specific inquiry forms in the relevant sections of our website, that way the right person will get your e-mail quicker. -------------------- Marcis Gobins, Consultant |
| naido Junior Member Member # 1497 | Posted January 13, 2002 07:46 AM What do they mean by highly experienced IT professionals? Is a university degree and 16 months of full-time experience considered 'highly experienced' ? |
| Witt Member Member # 567 | Posted January 13, 2002 01:12 PM quote: they do not actually mean it afaik it depends only on the salary they offer you and if u have any more or less related diploma or not. no other countries consider 16 months as serious experience |
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