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Dog Face Mike
Junior Member
Member # 5384
Posted October 02, 2002 10:28 PM
If someone wants info on how to get a work visa in Spain, I may help him. I work as a legal business consultant and frequently handle visa aplication procedures.

Just wanted to make my little contribution to this board.

Last Question
Junior Member
Member # 5650
Posted October 03, 2002 02:35 AM
Your contact pls ?
Dog Face Mike
Junior Member
Member # 5384
Posted October 03, 2002 12:16 PM
quote:
Your contact pls?

What do you mean?. You wanna contact me privately via e-mail?.

Why don't just post your question on the board?.

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Junior Member
Member # 5650
Posted October 03, 2002 10:26 PM
I just pasted my message which i entered some days before.
Dear Friends,
I am on german work permit and working from 2 and half years in german software company (Frnk).But soon my company is going to kick me off as i got some informations by my office fellows.I am Non-EU resident and having 3 years experience overall in software eng.I am trying my best to get job but could not got still with full efforts.As other Non-EU residents i also wish to be in Europe.I also have some amount just for taking addmission in any EU-university or UK university but i dont have enough money for the satisfaction of visa officers. .
What should i do , pls tell me any way ...I just have one advatage that i am unmarried nothing more.........
Pls any suggestion........
learner
Junior Member
Member # 4718
Posted October 04, 2002 07:00 PM
I am post graduate in economics with 4-1/2 years of experience from pakistan and intrested to move legally in spain.Plz guide me some thing about getting workpermit or immigration which is relevent to my situation.
Ruben
Junior Member
Member # 5609
Posted October 05, 2002 09:44 PM
I am an IT professional with over 5 years of IT experience (last 2 years in England doing web development) and I would like to move to Spain if I can get a simialr job and pay..(if not better)..I am a non european citizen. Can u let me know the possibility and feasibility of a IT related work permit. Thanks..
sohail
Member
Member # 4133
Posted October 06, 2002 06:37 AM
What contribution have u made till now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last Question
Junior Member
Member # 5650
Posted October 06, 2002 11:39 AM
Hello Ruben , Tell me why you want to go to spain, there would be language problem for you ? and also new place , you spent 2 years in uk ,can you explain may be others also get advantage of your exp...
Dog Face Mike
Junior Member
Member # 5384
Posted October 07, 2002 02:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Last Question:
I am Non-EU resident and having 3 years experience overall in software eng.I am trying my best to get job but could not got still with full efforts.As other Non-EU residents i also wish to be in Europe.I also have some amount just for taking addmission in any EU-university or UK university but i dont have enough money for the satisfaction of visa officers. .

quote:
Originally posted by: learner
I am post graduate in economics with 4-1/2 years of experience from pakistan and intrested to move legally in spain.Plz guide me some thing about getting workpermit or immigration which is relevent to my situation.

quote:
Originally posted by: Ruben
I am an IT professional with over 5 years of IT experience (last 2 years in England doing web development) and I would like to move to Spain if I can get a simialr job and pay..(if not better)..I am a non european citizen. Can u let me know the possibility and feasibility of a IT related work permit. Thanks..

Sorry for the delay.

Until the last year, it was easy to get a work permit in Spain, all you neeeded was a job offer. But since January 2002 the inmigration laws changed a lot. However, due to the mess this change in the laws has caused, it's likely that the next year a new change takes place and all those changes are nullified.

Right now, only european citizens can get directly hired by spanish employers through a regular job offer. If they want to hire a non-EU citizen, they have to file a petition through their local business' association, which demands to the local delegation of the Ministry of Labor be assigned a permit to hire a non-EU citizen. Under this new system, the goverment issues at the end of the year a limited number of those permits, to be assigned during the next year to the bussiness that apply for them. Once all the established number of permits are issued, the business that didn't got any, will have to wait until the next year. The number of permits issued for 2002 was 32079, and so far as I know all of them are already assigned since march. There are no much regulations concernig what priorities are considered when it comes to make the decision if a business is granted a permit or not, the whole thing works pretty much as in a banana republic :P , and even if a bussiness manages to be among the first to apply it doesen't have any guarantee of success. It's a pretty tied up situation. You also should know that only a small percent of those permits are for highly qualified workers as you, being most of them for unskilled workers. As you see, this procedure is desperately long and offers no security of any kind. However, if you're interested, all I can recommend you is to call the nearest spanish consulate at the begining of the year. They'll give you information on the job offers they have received and everything else you need to know.

This new system, however, allows employers to hire non-EU residents if they fulfill some requeriments, like being the son or grandson of a spaniard, being married to a spaniard, being a political refugee, and some more that don't apply to you, except one: that is, if the employer wants to hire a REALLY highly qualified worker for a TOP position. If that's the case, he has to file a special work permit petion, along with a detailed report on the reasons he wants to hire such person; the features of that position and so on. It's likely that this petitions are denied, due to the high number of spanish college graduates and rampant unemployment figures. You may apply for a job in a spanish bussiness even if you're abroad. You won't find a lot of job offers, but those business prepared to hire someone who's not in Spain probably won't demand that you're proficient in spanish, since most of them will offer positions for IT professionals or business executives which only require fluency in english. This is neither an easy option.

What I'd recommend is that you enroll in some spanish university to take a graduate program, if you can afford it and your spanish is good. There are some programs that are taught only in english, but you won't find lots of them. Once you get admitted, to get the student visa is pretty easy. Just have the college to send you a certified copy of the letter of admission to enclose with your visa petition at the nearest spanish consulate. Once you're in Spain, you can apply for a work permit, only for a PART TIME JOB, tough. If you manage to get a job this way, the rest will be more easy; the business will be much more eager to hire you, and the Ministry of Labor will be more likely to approve the special work permit petition for top positions I mentioned
before.

As you see, it's not easy for a non-EU citizen to get a job in Spain these days, but you still have a chance. And as I said, the situation is likely to improve next year, since the new system has been a total mess.

There are other ways, tough, not-so-legal to get in Spain, like marry a spanish girl, sneak in the country and stay 5 years as an illegal...but I don't think you want to try this. If so, let me know, and I'll try to help. Nope. You can't marry my cousin!

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Dog Face Mike
Junior Member
Member # 5384
Posted October 07, 2002 02:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ruben:
...I would like to move to Spain if I can get a simialr job and pay..(if not better)

ROTFL! . I forgot to tell you that if you're looking for a job with a good pay, stay away from Spain!. Here wages are MUCH lower than in other european countries such as England or Germany. There a good IT professional can make easily 40.000-50.000 eur. per year, but in Spain, don't expect to get more than 25.000 or so, except if you're hired as a CEO or vicepresident of Microsoft Spain or something like that.

LAME
Junior Member
Member # 5620
Posted October 08, 2002 06:10 AM
Hi,Dog Face Mike

I want to know about Spain Immigration or work permit.I am non EU and Have Aircarft Mainternance Engineer license and want spain work permit is ther any way.please tell me.


LAME

herman
Member
Member # 12
Posted October 17, 2002 10:50 PM
In a discussion long ago, I heard that Spain and France were the hardest EU countries to get work permits for, due to Spain's high unemployment and France's strong labour unions. The easiest EU countries to get work permits for are the UK and Germany, not surprisingly, the EU's largest economies...
Mauricio
Member
Member # 1882
Posted October 23, 2002 12:06 AM
Hola Cara de Perro

I've been reading some legal information about Spain immigration and came across something about university lecturers, it seems to be a special rules that apply for this kind of positions where you don't need a full work permit or the process is a lot easier. Is it true??

Have you got any information about it??

Hasta luego

Jet Li
Junior Member
Member # 5748
Posted October 25, 2002 06:44 AM
<<There are other ways, tough, not-so-legal to get in Spain, like marry a spanish girl, sneak in the country and stay 5 years as an illegal...but I don't think you want to try this.>>

What is the budget of doing this? Does it really work? As you mentioned, stay 5 years as an illegal, how do we prove the 5-year-stay if that was illegal staying?

My passport can get me to Spain visa-free. So this could be one of my consideration. But you gotta prove me how this is working... and also, THE BUDGET does matter too...

Send me e-mail for private discussion: newsfilter_NOSPAM&NOSCAM_@shaw.ca

Jet

vitarag
Junior Member
Member # 3097
Posted November 02, 2002 08:57 AM
Hello,
I want to know about immigration for Spain. I doing video production in India and I have study about cinema in France.
vitarag

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vit

Jet Li
Junior Member
Member # 5748
Posted November 06, 2002 08:58 AM
Forget about it, vitarag. He doesn't seem to respond any of the messages.
Bobblewait
Member
Member # 6527
Posted December 20, 2002 10:39 PM
The "marry a Spanish girl" option sounds best. Why not kill 2 birds with one stone and both get a hot senorita and a nice passport?

Areeba areeba andere andere in the immortal words of Speedy Gonzales!

catalina
Junior Member
Member # 2964
Posted December 28, 2002 03:20 PM
are nurses required in spain? what is the procedure?

catalina

Bobblewait
Member
Member # 6527
Posted December 29, 2002 02:21 PM
OOOoooh i could do with a nurse in white crisp uniform...
want_wp/imm
Member
Member # 51
Posted January 28, 2003 06:18 AM
what about the option that some people provide, they say they can provide " spanish residence "

can any one comment

Bobblewait
Member
Member # 6527
Posted January 28, 2003 10:47 AM
Which people? Many people promise many things...
want_wp/imm
Member
Member # 51
Posted January 28, 2003 12:31 PM
yes, found 2 agencies that promise can provide the spanish residence/permit in 8 weeks
Bobblewait
Member
Member # 6527
Posted January 28, 2003 05:27 PM
Some agencies take your money and disappear. Some bribe govt officials. Both are illegal. In most cases if agencies GUARANTEE success something is fishy...
Kane
Junior Member
Member # 7566
Posted February 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Mike

I am Canadian Citizen living in Canada. I got my paper from the ministry. Now I have to apply in Spain's consulate in Toronto.

The thing is I heard they take long long time to process. Is that true? second! I have a wife & daughter here living with me. How I am gonna take them with me. My wife is not a Canadian citizen, she need a visa even for visit.

Third! I heard there is some kind of Amnesty open in Spain these days. What is that if u have knowledge.

Thanks

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