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ram
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Member # 161
Posted January 13, 2002 12:37 PM
i am very much interested in migrating to australia and thinking on this for almost a yr.

i am an indian nationlaity with around 15+ yrs of experience in IT and currently in singapore since 1993.

i get into confusion when comes to employer reference letter i need to produce for aussie computer society processing.

i can get for the last 2 companies but i worked in one firm which is no more now and one in india which i left in 1990! which i can try to get but not sure!

my question is how do i show my experience of 15+ yrs when i don't get reference letters from some companies which are no more there or i left them very long time back. i have good skill with one company which is no more there.

also if suppose i did freelancing then how to account my skills experience?

can the consultants help me to explain further!

regards
ram

Bahadur Basanti
Junior Member
Member # 405
Posted January 14, 2002 10:00 AM
Hi Ram
If you have IT qualifications as specified by Australian Computer Society you only need to show an experience of 12 months to saisfy the requirements of DIMIA.For more details about the assessment requirements you can visit www.acs.org.au
Bahadur Singh Basanti
basanti@webfront.net.au
kapil
Member
Member # 749
Posted January 14, 2002 03:06 PM
What you can do is contact your ex-employer(md or whoever) to get referance letter though company is not existing.You are only required to show three years work experience before you apply.

The best thing is consult an experienced immigration agent, then your problem will be solved.

Elfa
Member
Member # 5
Posted January 16, 2002 06:12 PM
Hi

You are required to show at least one year of specific IT work experience, although the ACS recommends that you show at least four years.

If you are unable to get employer references you should get an official notarised Affidavit concerning your freelancing and/or other IT work experience (for which you can't get references).

Hope this has been helpful!

Regards

Elfa

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Witt
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Member # 567
Posted January 18, 2002 10:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Elfa:

If you are unable to get employer references you should get an official notarised Affidavit concerning your freelancing and/or other IT work experience (for which you can't get references).


is it a theoretical advice or there are people who did it and ACS accepted it? and how this thing is called in Ireland? Statutory Declaration I suppose?

ram
Member
Member # 161
Posted January 19, 2002 04:09 PM
thanks elfa and other for the replies! looks elfa is busy with work after the holidays!

but again does acs accepts such affidavits from notries? will it be of any help if i get a aussie notry for the work,cos my friend in melbourne "can" help me? if not i know one here in singapore!

another questions again:
1)i am married, do i have to apply with wife or i can process mine first and hers later?
2)how difficult is it for my wife to get her pr if i choose the 2nd option?
3)how to evaluate the skills for my wife who was a teacher? does she need some additional skills to practice as a teacher in aussie?

thanks and regards
ram

Witt
Member
Member # 567
Posted January 19, 2002 06:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ram:

another questions again:
1)i am married, do i have to apply with wife or i can process mine first and hers later?
2)how difficult is it for my wife to get her pr if i choose the 2nd option?
3)how to evaluate the skills for my wife who was a teacher? does she need some additional skills to practice as a teacher in aussie?

thanks and regards
ram


have you ever read www.immmi.gov.au? very helpful information. about your wife - it is always better to include her too, because in this case (provided that you get enough points yourself) she will automatically receive her PR. Otherwise (if you apply alone) you will have to prove to DIMIA that she does not want to go with you, if she will join you later and blahblahblah... On the other hand if she refuses to go there, then of course you can apploy alone only

and to get her there as your spouse will be another pain in your ass... so if there is no obstacles, apply together, you can even get extra points if she also has any skills.

Elfa
Member
Member # 5
Posted January 22, 2002 04:42 PM
Hi Ram and Witt

Thanks for your comments and questions...in Ireland, this is a Statutory Declaration (in response to Witt) and yes, this is also official ACS information as I am assisting a client with an SD right now (you are right, Ram, I am keeping quite busy after the holidays)

Yes, Affidavits witnessed by offical notaries (signed and stamped) are also accepted by the ACS.

In response to your specific questions regarding your wife:

1) I agree with Witt that the process is simpler if you apply together. However, it is possible to get her to join you later but you should make it clear in your app the reasons why she is not joining you now and why she wishes to go later

2) covered above

3) NOOSR evaluates skills for teachers. She should hold a Bachelor's degree in Education OR any Bachelor's degree plus a one-year Post-Graduate Diploma in Teaching or Education in order to be assessed as suitable. If English is not her first language, she will have to pass a stringent language test. Once she immigrates, she will have to gain registration and/or licensing with the appropriate teaching authority in the Australian state in which she will reside.

WHEW! I hope that answers your questions and I will come back online tomorrow morning...

All the best

Elfa

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ram
Member
Member # 161
Posted January 27, 2002 05:50 AM
looks like it is always the case [pia] when comes to spouse in many places. i have one [pia] right now in singapore, the worst is i a pr here since 1997,they don't give a social visit visa thereby literally separating a family!

i don't know whether this is right or wrong? i know that there is an un resolution against family separation by states under womens charter! probably elfa could expain on this.

it is because of this bad experience i have to ask this question and not because i haven't gone through the docs from aussie govt office or web site, infact i have a copy with me as i am working on this for quite sometime, my only delay is in getting my service certs ready.

again how the notory attest on my special skills from the work where my company is at the moment non-existance?

and any idea how much cash we need to have when were are ready for the interview!?

thanks and regards
ram

Elfa
Member
Member # 5
Posted January 29, 2002 04:18 PM
HI again Ram

I am not sure about the situation on the social visit visa matter you are referring to, but if you are talking about Australia, your wife should be able to visit you on a tourist visa if she does not migrate with you initially.

Regarding the notary, you should just write a Statutory Declaration yourself attesting your work experience and the situation regarding your company. Just tell the truth and you shouldn't run into any problems.

There is no official minimum cash requirement but you should understand that it will take a reasonable amount of funding to just move out there! We suggest that you have savings of at least several thousand dollars.

Hope this helps!

Elfa

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Elfa Kere, Consultant
Workpermit.com

ram
Member
Member # 161
Posted January 31, 2002 06:36 AM
thanks elfa, i will later ask for more details on stat letters!

i know we need to submit police clearacne cert and medical cert, do we have to give this at the time of application or later when the authorities ask for?

can we make these certs ready atleast pcc?

i have lived in india and singapore for longer time, so have to get two pcc certs right? if so can i get it ready when ever i visit india or should these certs should be produced only on request?

thanks
ram

Elfa
Member
Member # 5
Posted February 01, 2002 04:17 PM
Hi again Ram

I would wait until the police certificates and medicals are requested from the authorities to actually obtain these since they must be rather recent (no more than 6 months for pcc's, no more than 3 months old for medicals!). You will need pcc's from both countries, and keep in mind the requirement that they should be no more than 6 months old when submitted.

Hope this helps!

Elfa

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Elfa Kere, Consultant
Workpermit.com

ram
Member
Member # 161
Posted February 11, 2002 02:02 AM
elfa and other ram again!

elfa,thanks for those replies.

now let me do some queries on preparation of reference letters.

my situation is this:
i have been in IT for very long[15+] and have worked in more than 6 companies with varying sizes of which few eith not existing or difficult to trace them right now but i have a letter from those employers which states my employment period and position.

so, for few i need to prepare a satutory declaration to be attested by a notary public.

my question here is:
1) are those letters from the employers enough for acs assessment and later for immigration?

2) should reference letters be in a required style/format 'cos they say appointment letters won't be accepted!

3) what my declaration letter should mainly have?

is it like this:
period of employment,position,work done and the status of the company now...

could you pls help me in guiding me here!

hope i am taxing you much!

it's because i need to prepare a proper letter to be attested by a notary and planning to finish it my feb end.

thanks and regards
ram

Witt
Member
Member # 567
Posted February 11, 2002 06:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ram:
my question here is:
1) are those letters from the employers enough for acs assessment and later for immigration?

2) should reference letters be in a required style/format 'cos they say appointment letters won't be accepted!



you need reference letters on company letter head that describe what you have been doing, with accent on technologies, languages etc. this contens is very importatn to them - I had to resubmit a reference 3 times before they accepted it (i hope they did)

ram
Member
Member # 161
Posted February 12, 2002 03:21 PM
thanks witt, while i wait for other replies let me ask some more doubts.

this is about the birth certificates; i actually do not have one so what other proves i should show instead;but to get singapore pr i didn't also do as they are satisfied with other docs; do i need to get some sort of letter from high commission here? and there is a mention of family card in the immigration booklet what is it?

thanks
ram

Witt
Member
Member # 567
Posted February 12, 2002 06:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ram:
thanks witt, while i wait for other replies let me ask some more doubts.

this is about the birth certificates; i actually do not have one so what other proves i should show instead;but to get singapore pr i didn't also do as they are satisfied with other docs; do i need to get some sort of letter from high commission here? and there is a mention of family card in the immigration booklet what is it?

thanks
ram



they need a proof of your age (and of course do not care about singaporean practices ), so it is better to get some kind of a birth certificate... a copy of your passport _may_ do provided that there is you date of birth on it, although I am not sure.

ram
Member
Member # 161
Posted February 14, 2002 05:11 AM
thanks witt, i noted your points; i will try to arrange for an official cert on my birth! in the meantime i wait for replies for my other questions i would like to discuss yet another confusing case of course this is for my friend!

a friend of mine also in IT field was employed for few years and later jumped to start a business of his own in partnership with another person and was also running his company for say 3/4 yrs,a software development company,but now again switched to employment as the economy and his business are both down.

now my question is my friend wants to migrate to aussie and in his case how can he produce reference letters for those years he was running on his own? can he get a reference letter from one of his partner or prepare a statutory declaration and get it attested by a notary? other thing is his partner is most likely to officialy close his business!

i hope elfa and other experts also joins to have a good discussion for this and my pervious questions.

once my doubts are cleared i may soon get my docs ready and send it to acs!

thanks in advance.
ram

Witt
Member
Member # 567
Posted February 14, 2002 10:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ram:
now my question is my friend wants to migrate to aussie and in his case how can he produce reference letters for those years he was running on his own? can he get a reference letter from one of his partner or prepare a statutory declaration and get it attested by a notary? other thing is his partner is most likely to officialy close his business!



i am not an expert at all, but it seems to me that the time when he was running his own development company would be counted as experience in a managerial position, not software development (at least he whould have hard tme proving that he was an IT person, not manager) - thus not relevant for ACS

ram
Member
Member # 161
Posted February 15, 2002 05:32 AM
even treated as manager in an IT firm it is okay 'cos he would have managed IT projects etc., but how to produce the reference letters in this case?

actually he was designated system analysis and was running software development projects!

thanks & regards
ram

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