My Son(Minor) Indian passport renew has been denied

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:45 pm

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:40 pm

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm

Hi Sultan76
Can you pls share us with the email id pls and what contents have you emailed to them.
Hope the scenario is
1.Father -British citizen and holding a british passport
2.Mother -Holding an indian passport.
3.Child -Still minor and holding an indian passport which is due to expire soon

Yes I am British citizen by naturalisation.
Wife Indian citizen
Child still minor and holding Indian passport.
The email id is.
cons2.birmingham@mea.gov.in

Thanks for sharing all the details @sultan76
Regards
SN

@sultan76 sorry some few more questions
What was the process which was followed.
1.You applied for your minor passport renewal and VFS declined to Process.
2.You wrote a email to cons2.birmingham@mea.gov.in and they gave you the permission process your application.
or
you took the permission first from cons2.birmingham@mea.gov.in and then will apply for your minors passport renewal after verification from VFS ?

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:28 pm

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:06 pm

Yes yesterday I emailed to CGI Birmingham and today morning they replied. Then I go to VFS Birmingham centre to confirm this they check my documents and said come to your apartment date which is earliest available is 9 of April.
Dear Sir,

You can submit your child's passport application at your nearest VFS center.

Regards,
Passport Section,
Consulate General of India
Birmingham

Thanks for the confirmation. Just I need one info. Have you renounced your Indian citizenship, means born as an Indian and renounced your citizenship. Reason for the ask is based on the different section only they are allowing it.

Thanks, KIA

Hi KIA
when you say they are allowing in different section , can you please be a bit more elaborate
Regards
SN

I have renounced the Indian citizenship that I have acquired as birth right and it will come under section 8 of the citizenship act. If that's the case, all the minors belong to the adult, the Indian citizenship will be ceased. This is where my case is stacked.

There is another section 9 where the Indian citizenship is terminated and it will not affect the minors. Recently, Delhi high court has given the verdict for this. Refer times of india article.

One more scenario, when the child is born and one of the parent holds British citizenship and another parent is Indian, then the child can have the dual citizenship of British and Indian, until the age of 18.

If you see all the cases, one parent is foreign national. So we need to understand the sultan scenario exactly

Thanks,
KIA

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:40 pm

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm

Hi Sultan76
Can you pls share us with the email id pls and what contents have you emailed to them.
Hope the scenario is
1.Father -British citizen and holding a british passport
2.Mother -Holding an indian passport.
3.Child -Still minor and holding an indian passport which is due to expire soon

Yes I am British citizen by naturalisation.
Wife Indian citizen
Child still minor and holding Indian passport.
The email id is.
cons2.birmingham@mea.gov.in

Thanks Sultan. When your child is born, did you hold the British citizenship at that time or you got the citizenship after your child is born?

Thanks,
KIA

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:28 am

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:28 pm

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:06 pm

Yes yesterday I emailed to CGI Birmingham and today morning they replied. Then I go to VFS Birmingham centre to confirm this they check my documents and said come to your apartment date which is earliest available is 9 of April.
Dear Sir,

You can submit your child's passport application at your nearest VFS center.

Regards,
Passport Section,
Consulate General of India
Birmingham

Thanks for the confirmation. Just I need one info. Have you renounced your Indian citizenship, means born as an Indian and renounced your citizenship. Reason for the ask is based on the different section only they are allowing it.

Thanks, KIA

Hi KIA
when you say they are allowing in different section , can you please be a bit more elaborate
Regards
SN

I have renounced the Indian citizenship that I have acquired as birth right and it will come under section 8 of the citizenship act. If that's the case, all the minors belong to the adult, the Indian citizenship will be ceased. This is where my case is stacked.

There is another section 9 where the Indian citizenship is terminated and it will not affect the minors. Recently, Delhi high court has given the verdict for this. Refer times of india article.

One more scenario, when the child is born and one of the parent holds British citizenship and another parent is Indian, then the child can have the dual citizenship of British and Indian, until the age of 18.

If you see all the cases, one parent is foreign national. So we need to understand the sultan scenario exactly

Thanks,
KIA

<SN> - seeing the POP up message , I have not yet renounced my Indian citizenship but just have surrender my Passport for now

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:28 am

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:28 pm

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:06 pm

Yes yesterday I emailed to CGI Birmingham and today morning they replied. Then I go to VFS Birmingham centre to confirm this they check my documents and said come to your apartment date which is earliest available is 9 of April.
Dear Sir,

You can submit your child's passport application at your nearest VFS center.

Regards,
Passport Section,
Consulate General of India
Birmingham

Thanks for the confirmation. Just I need one info. Have you renounced your Indian citizenship, means born as an Indian and renounced your citizenship. Reason for the ask is based on the different section only they are allowing it.

Thanks, KIA

Hi KIA
when you say they are allowing in different section , can you please be a bit more elaborate
Regards
SN

I have renounced the Indian citizenship that I have acquired as birth right and it will come under section 8 of the citizenship act. If that's the case, all the minors belong to the adult, the Indian citizenship will be ceased. This is where my case is stacked.

There is another section 9 where the Indian citizenship is terminated and it will not affect the minors. Recently, Delhi high court has given the verdict for this. Refer times of india article.

One more scenario, when the child is born and one of the parent holds British citizenship and another parent is Indian, then the child can have the dual citizenship of British and Indian, until the age of 18.

If you see all the cases, one parent is foreign national. So we need to understand the sultan scenario exactly

Thanks,
KIA

<SN> - seeing the POP up message , I have not yet renounced my Indian citizenship but just have surrender my Passport for now

<SN> - seeing the POP up message , I have not yet renounced my Indian citizenship but just have surrender my Passport for now
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Hi,

But if you acquire the British citizenship and surrender the passport means itself is not renunciation?

Because, after this it's based on the individual to apply oci or not. Kindly confirm

Thanks,
KIA

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:30 am

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:40 pm

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm

Hi Sultan76
Can you pls share us with the email id pls and what contents have you emailed to them.
Hope the scenario is
1.Father -British citizen and holding a british passport
2.Mother -Holding an indian passport.
3.Child -Still minor and holding an indian passport which is due to expire soon

Yes I am British citizen by naturalisation.
Wife Indian citizen
Child still minor and holding Indian passport.
The email id is.
cons2.birmingham@mea.gov.in

Thanks Sultan. When your child is born, did you hold the British citizenship at that time or you got the citizenship after your child is born?

Thanks,
KIA

Hi. I got British citizenship after child born.

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:57 am

<SN> - seeing the POP up message , I have not yet renounced my Indian citizenship but just have surrender my Passport for now

Hi,

But if you acquire the British citizenship and surrender the passport means itself is not renunciation?

Because, after this it's based on the individual to apply oci or not. Kindly confirm

Thanks,
KIA
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As per the current situation.
1.First Submit your Indian passport.
2.Second steps is renunciation which seems to be in independent Process now as all the section 8 gets applied during that time .
if you click on this link https://indiancitizenshiponline.nic.in/Renounce you will see a pop up message and its asking for the minor details etc.

I spoke with the VFS team this morning and told me of my situation and they were also puzzled and told me to get a written confirmation from the high commission before applying. if you apply now they will only take the application but the case will be pending with the HCI and they will only approve the Minor's passport.

3.After both the process are done you apply for OCI.

****Now if the first step is implicit or explicit nobody is able to answer that even the VFS team . I had dropped an email to HCI but no response yet.

Any latest status on this issue. I’m also in same state.

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:36 pm

I am Birmingham based and HCI London said contact to CGI Birmingham I contact CGI Birmingham they replied this. But nothing clear.
Dear Sir/Madam,

As of now we are not accepting applications where one of the parent is a foreign national as per directions from the Ministry. We are awaiting further clarifications on the subject. For further information please visit www.hcilondon.gov.in

Regards,
Passport Section,
Consulate General of India
Birmingham

Hi Sultan, Please help with following questions
1)
I thought applicants are allowed to apply for passport renewal in any location from london or Birmingham with application form completed from that respective HCI Birmingham or HCI london , is The reason HCI london told you to contact HCi Birmingham because you competed online application from HCi Birmingham ? Pls confirm.

2) how long HCi Birmingham took to respond back to your email ,

3)what details you have shared in email like to HCi Name, passport number of both child and both parents and application number etc ? Passport surender certificate ?

4) did you check vfs Birmingham post the response from HCi and have they proceeded with your application in super priority (takaal) or standard ?

Rud wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:47 am

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:36 pm

I am Birmingham based and HCI London said contact to CGI Birmingham I contact CGI Birmingham they replied this. But nothing clear.
Dear Sir/Madam,

As of now we are not accepting applications where one of the parent is a foreign national as per directions from the Ministry. We are awaiting further clarifications on the subject. For further information please visit www.hcilondon.gov.in

Regards,
Passport Section,
Consulate General of India
Birmingham

Hi Sultan, Please help with following questions
1)
I thought applicants are allowed to apply for passport renewal in any location from london or Birmingham with application form completed from that respective HCI Birmingham or HCI london , is The reason HCI london told you to contact HCi Birmingham because you competed online application from HCi Birmingham ? Pls confirm.

2) how long HCi Birmingham took to respond back to your email ,

3)what details you have shared in email like to HCi Name, passport number of both child and both parents and application number etc ? Passport surender certificate ?

4) did you check vfs Birmingham post the response from HCi and have they proceeded with your application in super priority (takaal) or standard ?

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I had got a call from the VFS today and they told that they are accepting the applications but will not processing until they are getting approval from HCI. They will be taking all the documents but they will not be taking the fees nor the passport. Once they get an approval from HCI then only they will be going ahead with their passport renewal.
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Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:10 am

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:30 am

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:40 pm

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm

Hi Sultan76
Can you pls share us with the email id pls and what contents have you emailed to them.
Hope the scenario is
1.Father -British citizen and holding a british passport
2.Mother -Holding an indian passport.
3.Child -Still minor and holding an indian passport which is due to expire soon

Yes I am British citizen by naturalisation.
Wife Indian citizen
Child still minor and holding Indian passport.
The email id is.
cons2.birmingham@mea.gov.in

Thanks Sultan. When your child is born, did you hold the British citizenship at that time or you got the citizenship after your child is born?

Thanks,
KIA

Hi. I got British citizenship after child born.

Hi Sultan , my case is exactly similar like you but HCi has just responded with a standard response that they are not processing applications for children for those parent who gave the Indian citizenship after the child is born. Please respond to the above question I have put the previous message so I can resend another email.

Hi Rud. Today I submitted my kids application at VFS Birmingham. They didn't ask anything. If similar case you can check with CGI Birmingham again.
And thankyou all members for your suggestion.
Thanks.

Hi Sultan,

Thank you for your response .

How long it took for CGI Birmingham to respond with an approval for your email ?
They have just responded to mrsaying that they’re checking with higher officials.

Did CGI Birmingham asked any questions on the email ?

Hi rud.i sent my kids application reference number.
And they replied next day.

Rud wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:20 pm

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:10 am

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:30 am

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:40 pm

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm

Hi Sultan76
Can you pls share us with the email id pls and what contents have you emailed to them.
Hope the scenario is
1.Father -British citizen and holding a british passport
2.Mother -Holding an indian passport.
3.Child -Still minor and holding an indian passport which is due to expire soon

Yes I am British citizen by naturalisation.
Wife Indian citizen
Child still minor and holding Indian passport.
The email id is.
cons2.birmingham@mea.gov.in

Thanks Sultan. When your child is born, did you hold the British citizenship at that time or you got the citizenship after your child is born?

Thanks,
KIA

Hi. I got British citizenship after child born.

Hi Sultan , my case is exactly similar like you but HCi has just responded with a standard response that they are not processing applications for children for those parent who gave the Indian citizenship after the child is born. Please respond to the above question I have put the previous message so I can resend another email.

Yes HCI London told me to contact CGI Birmingham because I submit my online application to birmingham.today submitted application at VFS Birmingham they took fees as well.
Thanks

Hi All ,

Has anyone received response from Indian consulate for renewal of minor passport or is there any update ?

Whom to reach to escalate if there is no response from consulate ?

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:04 am

Rud wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:20 pm

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:10 am

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:30 am

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:40 pm

santanuwelcomesu wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm

Hi Sultan76
Can you pls share us with the email id pls and what contents have you emailed to them.
Hope the scenario is
1.Father -British citizen and holding a british passport
2.Mother -Holding an indian passport.
3.Child -Still minor and holding an indian passport which is due to expire soon

Yes I am British citizen by naturalisation.
Wife Indian citizen
Child still minor and holding Indian passport.
The email id is.
cons2.birmingham@mea.gov.in

Thanks Sultan. When your child is born, did you hold the British citizenship at that time or you got the citizenship after your child is born?

Thanks,
KIA

Hi. I got British citizenship after child born.

Hi Sultan , my case is exactly similar like you but HCi has just responded with a standard response that they are not processing applications for children for those parent who gave the Indian citizenship after the child is born. Please respond to the above question I have put the previous message so I can resend another email.

Yes HCI London told me to contact CGI Birmingham because I submit my online application to birmingham.today submitted application at VFS Birmingham they took fees as well.
Thanks

Sultan76 -
sorry few more questions
1.Was your child passport expired or going to expire ?
2.Do you have a OCI

Hi Sultan ,

have you applied child passport renewal in takaal service , the processing time for takaal service is 3 to 5 working days ?

Rud wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:42 pm

Hi Sultan ,

have you applied child passport renewal in takaal service , the processing time for takaal service is 3 to 5 working days ?

Hi Rud.
I did standard service. Not tatkaal.
I didn't get any update yet next step is police verification when it done I will update.
Thanks.

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:15 pm

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:07 pm

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:05 pm

kihiq2024 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:49 am

Sultan76 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:08 am

Hi. Do we need to contact HCI London about Delhi high court's decision.or wait to any update from MAE.
Thanks.

Hi,
I had already contacted High commission, Edinburgh for the same and no replies. However, you can contact HCI as well.

Thanks, KIA

Hi. There is a good news. Now they tracking applications. Confirm with VFS and counslate general of Birmingham.

@taking application.
Thanks

Hi,

Have you got any confirmation in written for the same? Reason is today morning Edinburgh consulate called me and said they are not taking it and still waiting for the confirmation from ministry of external affairs.

Kindly confirm.

Thanks,
KIA

Hi kihiq2024 ,
Have you heard anything further from the Edinburgh Consulate or the VFS Edinburgh ?
I am in a similar situation, need to renew my minor kids' passports as soon as possible. No response from Edinburgh consulate as of yet.

Thanks
Siva

I am same situation. I am trying to apply for Edinburgh consulate but no reply.
I called VFS today and they are saying they are not accepting the applications ? Any further update please ?

Sivaquery wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:51 pm

Hi kihiq2024 ,
Have you heard anything further from the Edinburgh Consulate or the VFS Edinburgh ?
I am in a similar situation, need to renew my minor kids' passports as soon as possible. No response from Edinburgh consulate as of yet.

Thanks
Siva

Hi Siva,
I am also in same situation, trying to figure out what to do..and applying from Edinburgh..Please let me know if there is any progress

viswa_123 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:16 pm

Sivaquery wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:51 pm

Hi kihiq2024 ,
Have you heard anything further from the Edinburgh Consulate or the VFS Edinburgh ?
I am in a similar situation, need to renew my minor kids' passports as soon as possible. No response from Edinburgh consulate as of yet.

Thanks
Siva

Hi Siva,
I am also in same situation, trying to figure out what to do..and applying from Edinburgh..Please let me know if there is any progress

Hi

I have mailed the Edinburgh consulate and contacted them via WhatsApp. But got only a standard reply stating - "We are aware of the situation and are working with Ministry of External Affairs to seek further directions in this regard. We will get back once we have further instructions. "

Pls let me know if you have any news or updates. Or have you contacted any legal aid or immigration charities for further options.

Thanks
Siva

Shiva,

One reply i got is to apply for British Citizenship for my child, my child is eligible and i have applied...it will take two months and odd to come then i shall apply for Indian visa and travel...I am doing that now...
Actually i was of the view of not having BC for my kid for few more years (Due to some tax complications of property in India)

These ppl are absolutely reckless in bringing a wierd law...i will let you know if i hear about it.