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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by mbnarayn » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:18 am

OCI Timeline for Application of 1 child (Miscellaneous Service For OCI Reissue)
VFS Center: Hounslow
Application Date: 24/06/2019
Got a text later in the day from VFS saying documents have been dispatched to the the High Commission.
Date of acknowledgement: 25/06/2019
Original docs Received: N/A. All originals were returned immediately at the time of submission.
Documents Printing Status: 28/06/2019
Dispatched From MEA (OCI): 01/07/2019
Document received At London : 01/07/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON: 03/07/2019
Got a text on 05/07/1985 from VFS to say documents have been couriered.
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: 06/07/2019

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by mbnarayn » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:21 am

kiwis wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:32 am
Hi all,

We have submitted 3 adults and 1 child OCI reissue for new passport at vfs Hounslow. I am trying to find what sort of timeline I should be looking at. I searched the posts here and most of them are for vfs Goswell.
If someone has applied from Hounslow, could you please let me know how long it has taken.
We have a travel planned after 3 weeks, so getting a bit worried.

Thanks.
I think the timeline is more or less the same between the two VFS centres. I had applied in Hounslow and here is my timeline.

OCI Timeline for Application of 1 child (Miscellaneous Service For OCI Reissue)
VFS Center: Hounslow
Application Date: 24/06/2019
Got a text later in the day from VFS saying documents have been dispatched to the the High Commission.
Date of acknowledgement: 25/06/2019
Original docs Received: N/A. All originals were returned immediately at the time of submission.
Documents Printing Status: 28/06/2019
Dispatched From MEA (OCI): 01/07/2019
Document received At London : 01/07/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON: 03/07/2019
Got a text on 05/07/1985 from VFS to say documents have been couriered.
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: 06/07/2019

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by cyborg001 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:32 pm

Hello,

I'm an ex-Indian national who now holds British citizenship and OCI. My wife (of non-Indian origin) holds both British and Irish citizenship and we live in London. We want to apply for her OCI but have a few questions:
  • Does it matter which nationality she uses to apply for her OCI in UK? Her British passport expires in a year but her Irish passport has long validity left so we would like to use that one ideally.
  • If she uses her British passport now but renews it next year, does the OCI booklet (which contains foreign passport number) need to be updated with it, or can she simply start using her new British passport with OCI booklet to travel?
  • Can an OCI holder travel to India with less than 6 months validity remaining on the foreign passport?
  • Any other tips or things or special documents to watch out for?
Many thanks!

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by xebec » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:10 pm

re: cyborg001

1. It does not matter which nationality she uses to apply for the OCI as both Ireland and the UK are eligible countries (ie they allow dual citizenship and are not Pakistan or Bangladesh)
2. I would recommend that she apply using her UK passport. As the UK is a Commonwealth country, Indian citizenship law recognises her as Commonwealth a citizen. Although there are no extra privileges in India for a Commonwealth citizen at present, it may change in the distant future as India opens up. With her entry into India on a UK passport on a linked OCI card, Indian immigration will mark her entry into India as a Commonwealth citizen.
3. Note that in the application you would also have to declare her second citizenship and the passport number in Section B.
4. I would recommend you wait for her to renew the UK passport as soon as possible and applying on that one. Although the visa is lifelong, it is recommended to update the OCI booklet whenever you change the passport so that the new number is reflected in the OCI booklet. This avoids unnecessary bureaucratic delays at Indian immigration. There is a fee to update the booklet.
5. Yes, you do need a minimum six month validity on the passport.
6. Make sure you have the following sorted out before you apply:
* you have a marriage certificate issued by an official body (ie no religious ones).
* The marriage has subsisted for at least two years.
* Ensure the marriage certificate is apostilled before you apply.
* Ensure you have a recent 51cm x 51cm recent (<6mths old) photo taken out - and you get an electronic copy that meets the pixel requirements. (Details on the OCI page)
* Ensure you have a scan of her signature (black ink) and scanned to meet the pixel sizes
* Make a note of your prior OCI application number and the date you had applied for yours (you will need to enter your OCI application number in Section B)
* Make sure you have Form S filled up - ie you allowing her to apply for OCI
* You will also need to provide evidence of your OCI eligibility (they don't publish this so that you get tripped up just when you thought you had everything covered - BAZINGA!). Have a copy of your Indian citizenship surrender certificate and your cancelled Indian passport (front, back, observations, cancelled stamp pages).
* For the VFS office, ensure all your documents are attested by a notary or a similar public official such as a JP.

Good luck!

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by xebec » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:13 pm

bookerw100 wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:27 pm
bookerw100 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:02 pm
Many thanks for the response.

I have another query. I got married last year but I didnt update my Indian passport before surrendering and the space for spouse name is blank.

Now for OCI card, they are asking details of spouse. Will it be an issue as the surrendered passport doesn't have any spouse listed?
any help appreciated
It should not be an issue - just write a cover letter to them explaining the situation.

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Documents for OCI Reissue

Post by kopper » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:25 pm

I am in the process of applying for the transfer of OCIs from my children's old passports to new and have a few questions:

1) Do you need both the Thumb prints and signature or only one will do?
My 5 year old does not not write clearly so will only his thumb print be enough?
My 10 year old can write her name in a signature style so will her thumb print be also needed?

- Part B of the form asks " Have you/any member of your family applied for Overseas Citizen of India registration earlier? "
Do I put in my details as the father or my child's details considering they have OCI on their old passport?
It also asks for a "Reference Number" - What number is this? It will not accept my OCI number as 12 characters are needed. If its my original reference number for the last OCI application made 9 years ago, god knows where it is !!

- Finally, in the document upload part, can i just upload my child's new passport? Do I need to upload their old OCI ?

Its strange why a Transfer of an OCI to a new passport can be so cumbersome.
Why do we need to submit copies marriage certificate, parents passports etc again when they already have that on file as both parents have existing OCI ???

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by gerspad » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:13 pm

I have just received my OCI but upon receiving it I have noticed that the text has been misaligned. The text of my details (my name, dob, pob, date of issue etc) all seems to slightly overlap the text on the template of the page (for example 'BIRMINGHAM' overlaps the hindi text for 'Place of Issue'. This makes the document slightly less legible. The machine readable part seems fine, so I hope it can still be scanned but I am not sure about using this document as ID in India given the legibility issues.

Here are some examples of where the text has misaligned:


I know that one can raise a OCI Miscelaneous service - but I don't think that I should have to pay for printing problems on the behalf of those who have issued the document.
Would it be advisable to create an OCI miscelaneous service application and then to visit the consulate to try to resolve this with regards to not being charged extra for the printing error?

OCI Timeline for Application of 1 Adult (Fresh Application)
VFS Center: Birmingham
Application Date: 27/06/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 28/06/2019
Original docs Received: N/A. All originals were returned immediately at the time of submission.
Documents Printing Status: 22/07/2019
Dispatched From MEA (OCI): 23/07/2019
Document received At London : 23/07/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON: 25/07/2019
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: 30/07/2019

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by xebec » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:33 pm

gerspad wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:13 pm
I have just received my OCI but upon receiving it I have noticed that the text has been misaligned. The text of my details (my name, dob, pob, date of issue etc) all seems to slightly overlap the text on the template of the page (for example 'BIRMINGHAM' overlaps the hindi text for 'Place of Issue'. This makes the document slightly less legible. The machine readable part seems fine, so I hope it can still be scanned but I am not sure about using this document as ID in India given the legibility issues.

Here are some examples of where the text has misaligned:


I know that one can raise a OCI Miscelaneous service - but I don't think that I should have to pay for printing problems on the behalf of those who have issued the document.
Would it be advisable to create an OCI miscelaneous service application and then to visit the consulate to try to resolve this with regards to not being charged extra for the printing error?

OCI Timeline for Application of 1 Adult (Fresh Application)
VFS Center: Birmingham
Application Date: 27/06/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 28/06/2019
Original docs Received: N/A. All originals were returned immediately at the time of submission.
Documents Printing Status: 22/07/2019
Dispatched From MEA (OCI): 23/07/2019
Document received At London : 23/07/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON: 25/07/2019
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: 30/07/2019
Visit the consulate, politely ask them if the misprinting would create a problem - I do not think it will create a problem. You should not have to pay for an error on their part, so speak to them about getting a new one issued if it is a problem.

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Re: Documents for OCI Reissue

Post by xebec » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:04 pm

kopper wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:25 pm
I am in the process of applying for the transfer of OCIs from my children's old passports to new and have a few questions:

1) Do you need both the Thumb prints and signature or only one will do?
My 5 year old does not not write clearly so will only his thumb print be enough?
My 10 year old can write her name in a signature style so will her thumb print be also needed?

- Part B of the form asks " Have you/any member of your family applied for Overseas Citizen of India registration earlier? "
Do I put in my details as the father or my child's details considering they have OCI on their old passport?
It also asks for a "Reference Number" - What number is this? It will not accept my OCI number as 12 characters are needed. If its my original reference number for the last OCI application made 9 years ago, god knows where it is !!

- Finally, in the document upload part, can i just upload my child's new passport? Do I need to upload their old OCI ?

Its strange why a Transfer of an OCI to a new passport can be so cumbersome.
Why do we need to submit copies marriage certificate, parents passports etc again when they already have that on file as both parents have existing OCI ???
1. See https://www.vfsglobal.com/india/uk/OCI.html
Signatures should be in the box provided. Children below 5 years of age should place the thumb impression (of left hand in case of girl and of right hand in case of boy) and children above 5 years of age should write their name or sign. Signature/thumb impression of the child applicant is also required on the declaration on Part B of the application form (2 page).
-- Its bizarre that the UK high commission require minors to sign or write their name. The High Commission in Australia has no such requirements - (only upload a document that says "no signature"). In any case, if you should be able write their name down for them, the commission will never be any wiser.

2a. Yes, you put your details in. The more information you give them the better. Check your emails, you should have it the details in the email you received when you applied - hopefully it was an online process back then. If not, the file number can be found on the last page, last line of your booklet. If you can't remember the date, put the date of issue down. Remember, if they can't pull up this information from their own databases, they can't verify the exact dates either.
2b Also put your child's initial details in.

3. Yea just the passport is required. When you go for the interview, make sure you also take a copy of the OCI document.

Indian government paperwork is cumbersome yes. It's because they don't implicitly trust their own documents and systems. Also people don't challenge the system, and the people in charge of it do not have a feedback mechanism to review and improve it.

For now, it's best to give them all the documents they want, and documents they don't require (eg surrender certificate, your passport, your partner's passport, his/her OCI -if s/he has) - they will return documents they have no need for. Make sure both of you (you and your partner) sign the application document so that there is no ambiguity on objection. Also get your documents attested. They love attested documents.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by kopper » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:01 pm

Many Thanks for the detailed explanation !
Yes it is frustrating they still follow such rigid processes.
Since the British passport has to be renewed every 5 years for children, I'm dreading going through this whole process of OCI re-issue again until the children reaches 20 :cry: :cry:

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by gerspad » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:54 pm

xebec wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:33 pm

Visit the consulate, politely ask them if the misprinting would create a problem - I do not think it will create a problem. You should not have to pay for an error on their part, so speak to them about getting a new one issued if it is a problem.
Thanks, I did precisely this and went to the consulate, they said it would not cause any issues - I just hope whoever I need to show the document to in India takes the same view.
gerspad wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:13 pm
OCI Timeline for Application of 1 Adult (Fresh Application)
VFS Center: Birmingham
Application Date: 27/06/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 28/06/2019
Original docs Received: N/A. All originals were returned immediately at the time of submission.
Documents Printing Status: 22/07/2019
Dispatched From MEA (OCI): 23/07/2019
Document received At London : 23/07/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON: 25/07/2019
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: 30/07/2019
Also quick correction:
Document received At Birmingham*: 23/07/2019
* not London

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by leonu » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:10 pm

Timeline of my OCI application:
Application Date: 12-july-2019
VFS Center: VFS Goswell Road
Original docs Received: 12-july-2019
Date of acknowledgment: 13-july-2019
Documents Printing Status: PROCESSED on 02/08/2019
Dispatched From MOIA (OCI ) NEW DELHI: 02/08/2019
Document received At London: 02/08/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON at VFS: will go on the 5th.
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: .....

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by nagarajan1982 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:44 am

Timeline of my OCI application:
Application Date: 10-july-2019
VFS Center: Liverpool
Date of acknowledgment: 12-july-2019
Original docs Received: 14-july-2019
Documents Printing Status:
Dispatched From MOIA (OCI )
Document received At London:
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON at VFS:
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED :

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by jp2909 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:28 pm

HCI London are totally useless and ignore all email correspondence!

They're asking me to provide a nativity certificate for my OCI application using my father's school leaving certificate.

Only problem is the office in Navsari India dealing with issuing nativity certificates have stopped processing them for the last 7 months.

Now I'm stuck!

Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by heerasharma007 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:18 pm

Timeline of my OCI application:
Application Date: 7-june-2019
VFS Center: VFS Glasgow
Original docs Received: 7-june-2019
Date of acknowledgement: 7-june-2019
Documents Printing Status: PROCESSED on 12/07/2019
Dispatched From MOIA (OCI ) NEW DELHI: 15/07/2019
Document received At Edinburgh: 17/07/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON at VFS: 02/08/2019.
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: waiting

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by leonu » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:21 pm

leonu wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:10 pm
Timeline of my OCI application:
Application Date: 12-july-2019
VFS Center: VFS Goswell Road
Original docs Received: 12-july-2019
Date of acknowledgment: 13-july-2019
Documents Printing Status: PROCESSED on 02/08/2019
Dispatched From MOIA (OCI ) NEW DELHI: 02/08/2019
Document received At London: 02/08/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON at VFS: will go on the 5th.
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: .....
Timeline of my OCI application:
Application Date: 12-july-2019
VFS Center: VFS Goswell Road
Original docs Received: 12-july-2019
Date of acknowledgment: 13-july-2019
Documents Printing Status: PROCESSED on 02/08/2019
Dispatched From MOIA (OCI ) NEW DELHI: 02/08/2019
Document received At London: 02/08/2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON at VFS: 05/08/2019
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED: 09/08/2019

good luck all

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by xebec » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:38 am

jp2909 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:28 pm
HCI London are totally useless and ignore all email correspondence!

They're asking me to provide a nativity certificate for my OCI application using my father's school leaving certificate.

Only problem is the office in Navsari India dealing with issuing nativity certificates have stopped processing them for the last 7 months.

Now I'm stuck!

Anyone have any ideas?
Try another VFS centre?

You have the following options with various shades of legality:
1. A 'Facilitation payment" to get your application through.
2. Lodge an RTI on why the centre has stopped processing and inquire about the current processing time.
Now only Indian citizens can lodge an RTI ticket. So either log it for the entire processing time and say you're a citizen, or get an Indian citizen friend or family to log it for you if you need specifics on the application.
If you get an Indian friend to log a ticket, write an affidavit that you permit the person with Aadhaar number X to inquire about your application number Y and require a committed date when the certificate will be sent through.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by nagarajan1982 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:29 pm

nagarajan1982 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:44 am
Timeline of my OCI application:
Application Date: 10-july-2019
VFS Center: Liverpool
Date of acknowledgment: 12-july-2019
Original docs Received: 14-july-2019
Documents Printing Status: 13-July-2019
Dispatched From MOIA (OCI ) 14-July-2019
Document received At BIRMINGHAM: 14-July-2019
PASSPORT SUBMITTED IN PERSON at VFS:
PASSPORT AND OCI DOCUMENT RECEIVED :

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by kopper » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:15 am

Does anyone know if I am submitting OCI re-issues for 2 children that I need to provide 2 Royal Mail Special Delivery Envelopes or is just only 1 required for both?

Thanks

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:19 am

kopper wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:15 am
Does anyone know if I am submitting OCI re-issues for 2 children that I need to provide 2 Royal Mail Special Delivery Envelopes or is just only 1 required for both?

Thanks
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