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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by ms075guard » Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:47 pm

I found this forum helpful in my recently concluded OCI application so thought I would return the favour and summarise my experience:

My Timeline

Online application submitted: 31/10/2023
Document submission date at VFS Goswell London: 20/11/2023
Application Acknowledgment: 21/11/2023 (status enquiry said under process from no record found, no emails received)
Original Docs received: 23/11/2023 (via Royal Mail Special Delivery)
OCI application status page changes: 12/12/2023 Document printing/Processed/OCI number displayed
OCI Card received: 14/12/2023 (via Royal Mail Special Delivery)

Some points from my experience:

- After my online submission I only had just over a week before I was going overseas. I decided to arranged my VFS appointment for my return as (a) I was not sure whether they would keep my passport or (b) how long originals would be kept. I need not have worried as they did not keep my passport and the originals were returned on the third working day after my appointment. So I could have made my appointment before I went overseas.

- My application was with Root Indian as grandparent. I had not photocopied my parent or grandparent passport nor uploaded these documents in my online submission as the guidelines did not explicitly require these. As I had these passports with me, the VFS agent took photocopies which helped my as I did not have change for the copy machine at the VFS centre. I was not however asked to upload these documents online.

- The only originals retained were my birth certificate and the parent birth certificate with the Root grandparent named on it.

- I had two large "up to 500g" Royal Mail Special Delivery silver envelopes addressed to myself choosing to use these rather than pay for the VFS envelopes. Two originals would have weighed less than 100g so I could have had a lower weight "up to 100g" envelope which would have been cheaper. Also Royal Mail do a half size envelope which is sufficient for the second envelope used to post the OCI card. The VFS enveloped are Do Not Bend envelopes with cardboard backing and if your originals are delicate I would recommend paying the extra to use them (I think £15 vs £8) for the return of the originals as the Royal Mail envelopes are plastic bag style which are robust but not bend-proof....for the OCI card I think the smaller Royal Mail Special delivery envelope is fine as the booklet is as sturdy as a passport.

- I had a self-written self employment letter together with a copy of the self employment pages of my most recent tax return as my Proof of Employment. I did point out to the VFS agent where the tax return stated my profession, my turnover, etc. so the details in my letter could be verified against the tax return.

- In the VFS centre there was a display screen which stated it was necessary to have a photo with a white background. The guidance I had read said the background needed to be off white or grey so this was a slight anomaly. As it happened mine was a very light grey and had been accepted on my online upload. I had two 2x2" photos but only one was needed. The centre also takes photos (for a fee) if you don't take one with you.

- Before my appointment I had wondered whether I needed to get my (and my parent) birth certificate apostilled as the guidelines published by HCI mentioned it. However I had the originals and my birth was registered at the time and it was clear they were originals with seal of the relevant registry offices. I was born overseas, not in the UK and the country of my birth did not offer an apostille service but some other legal certification. I decided to go ahead with the appointment with the originals as they were. At the appointment the VFS agent looked carefully at the birth certificates but no mention was made of the need to apostille the birth certificates.

- My VFS appointment was at 8.30am. I was seen at 9am and out by 9.30am. I did get a small SMS service fee charge taken but did receive any SMS notifications or emails after my appointment. However, I was overall happy as the VFS agent I encountered was helpful in making physical submission of documents really quite straightforward and efficient.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by har3601 » Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:32 am

Hi,

I have my OCI appointment on the 20th Dec. Can I please check the following;

(i) do they retain the originals with them? Especially UK passpprt as I am travelling on 22nd Dec.

(ii) do they need a copy of surrender certificate and original Indian passport with surrender seal

Thank you for the help

Thanks
Hari

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by sitharanair03 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:24 pm

ms075guard wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:47 pm
I found this forum helpful in my recently concluded OCI application so thought I would return the favour and summarise my experience:

My Timeline

Online application submitted: 31/10/2023
Document submission date at VFS Goswell London: 20/11/2023
Application Acknowledgment: 21/11/2023 (status enquiry said under process from no record found, no emails received)
Original Docs received: 23/11/2023 (via Royal Mail Special Delivery)
OCI application status page changes: 12/12/2023 Document printing/Processed/OCI number displayed
OCI Card received: 14/12/2023 (via Royal Mail Special Delivery)

Some points from my experience:

- After my online submission I only had just over a week before I was going overseas. I decided to arranged my VFS appointment for my return as (a) I was not sure whether they would keep my passport or (b) how long originals would be kept. I need not have worried as they did not keep my passport and the originals were returned on the third working day after my appointment. So I could have made my appointment before I went overseas.

- My application was with Root Indian as grandparent. I had not photocopied my parent or grandparent passport nor uploaded these documents in my online submission as the guidelines did not explicitly require these. As I had these passports with me, the VFS agent took photocopies which helped my as I did not have change for the copy machine at the VFS centre. I was not however asked to upload these documents online.

- The only originals retained were my birth certificate and the parent birth certificate with the Root grandparent named on it.

- I had two large "up to 500g" Royal Mail Special Delivery silver envelopes addressed to myself choosing to use these rather than pay for the VFS envelopes. Two originals would have weighed less than 100g so I could have had a lower weight "up to 100g" envelope which would have been cheaper. Also Royal Mail do a half size envelope which is sufficient for the second envelope used to post the OCI card. The VFS enveloped are Do Not Bend envelopes with cardboard backing and if your originals are delicate I would recommend paying the extra to use them (I think £15 vs £8) for the return of the originals as the Royal Mail envelopes are plastic bag style which are robust but not bend-proof....for the OCI card I think the smaller Royal Mail Special delivery envelope is fine as the booklet is as sturdy as a passport.

- I had a self-written self employment letter together with a copy of the self employment pages of my most recent tax return as my Proof of Employment. I did point out to the VFS agent where the tax return stated my profession, my turnover, etc. so the details in my letter could be verified against the tax return.

- In the VFS centre there was a display screen which stated it was necessary to have a photo with a white background. The guidance I had read said the background needed to be off white or grey so this was a slight anomaly. As it happened mine was a very light grey and had been accepted on my online upload. I had two 2x2" photos but only one was needed. The centre also takes photos (for a fee) if you don't take one with you.

- Before my appointment I had wondered whether I needed to get my (and my parent) birth certificate apostilled as the guidelines published by HCI mentioned it. However I had the originals and my birth was registered at the time and it was clear they were originals with seal of the relevant registry offices. I was born overseas, not in the UK and the country of my birth did not offer an apostille service but some other legal certification. I decided to go ahead with the appointment with the originals as they were. At the appointment the VFS agent looked carefully at the birth certificates but no mention was made of the need to apostille the birth certificates.

- My VFS appointment was at 8.30am. I was seen at 9am and out by 9.30am. I did get a small SMS service fee charge taken but did receive any SMS notifications or emails after my appointment. However, I was overall happy as the VFS agent I encountered was helpful in making physical submission of documents really quite straightforward and efficient.
Thanks for sharing your experience, can I ask how long did it take for you to get the renunciation certificate ?
I applied both renunciation and OCI early October, still haven’t received either !

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by kaviron » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:51 pm

Hi All,

Time for me to return my favour too:

OCI application date: 20 Nov 2023 (VFS Goswell road)

Indian passport, Surrender, Renunciation, Naturalisation original certificates held by VFS

Original returned on 23/11/2023 (DX did not send me a text for this delivery, but keep tracking after 8:30 pm every day so you know if any parcel is on its way the next day)

OCI status was UNDER process from 21/11/2023 to 11/12/2023.

On 12th Dec, status changed tO PROCESSED and I could see the OCI number on the status page.

DX courier delivered OCI card on 14.12.2023. Got text and a 2 hour window on 14th morning about the delivery.

Renunciation certificate timelines:
Submitted application at VFS Goswell road branch on 13/09/2023
Status changed to PROCESSED on 15th November 2023
Got renunciation certificate on 17 November 2023

Hope this helps someone. Thank you.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by ladcameo » Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:13 am

kaviron wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:51 pm
Hi All,

Time for me to return my favour too:

OCI application date: 20 Nov 2023 (VFS Goswell road)

Indian passport, Surrender, Renunciation, Naturalisation original certificates held by VFS

Original returned on 23/11/2023 (DX did not send me a text for this delivery, but keep tracking after 8:30 pm every day so you know if any parcel is on its way the next day)

OCI status was UNDER process from 21/11/2023 to 11/12/2023.

On 12th Dec, status changed tO PROCESSED and I could see the OCI number on the status page.

DX courier delivered OCI card on 14.12.2023. Got text and a 2 hour window on 14th morning about the delivery.

Renunciation certificate timelines:
Submitted application at VFS Goswell road branch on 13/09/2023
Status changed to PROCESSED on 15th November 2023
Got renunciation certificate on 17 November 2023

Hope this helps someone. Thank you.
Hi,

Couple of questions from me.
  • Did you do your renunciation before OCI ? or did you do in parallel
  • Also, do you need to be in person to collect the OCI i.e. do you need to prove your identity etc or they can drop in the letterbox ?

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by ms075guard » Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:26 pm

sitharanair03 wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:24 pm


Thanks for sharing your experience, can I ask how long did it take for you to get the renunciation certificate ?
I applied both renunciation and OCI early October, still haven’t received either !
sorry I can't help with renunciation timelines - I was not and have never been Indian citizen so I did not need to renounce Indian citizenship.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by GN7B » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:28 am

Hi,

I am an Indian Origin and acquired British citizen through Naturalization and i applied for Indian Surrender certificate in 2021 but didn't applied for OCI yet. I am planning to apply for OCI in New year and i came to know about a new process which is Renunciation, i book an appointment for this on 22 Jan in Edinburgh and i am also looking to book an appointment for OCI either on 22 or 23rd of Jan at same VFS and when i tried to book for OCI appointments getting this notification.

I am flying from a different location to Edinburgh for this Renunciation and OCI process and planning to submit same applications on same day or next day.

Person with passport number xxxxxxx has been scheduled an appointment recently. Applicants are not allowed to make a new appointment till 1day of their last appointment.

Did any one encountered same issue and what would be the process here please suggest, thank you.

Regards
GN7B

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by pangsjil » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:43 am

Hi,

Can someone help with list of documents needed for OCI application for Minor.
Online lists more than 20 docs. So wanted to clarify with someone who applied recently.
Kindly help.

Thanks
Pangs

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by skaur787 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:24 pm

I am born in the UK, parents were born in UK but now permently settled in UK. They were married in UK and have UK passports. I want to apply for OCI, what documents do i need? I have also read proof of employment is also needed, however I am currently unemployed, what do I need to state for this?

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by KomRaj » Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:30 pm

Hi everyone,

We are a family of 4 people. We applied for surrender certificate and renunciation couple of days ago. Today, to my surprise, we received 3 surrender certificates and 1 is lost/still being processed. My question is related to OCI application. We have booked an appointment for later this week. Do we need to submit the surrender certificate for OCI or the receipt of the application of surrender will suffice? The surrender certificate yet to arrive is of minor. Kindly advise. Thanking in advance.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by Mtbrave » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:55 pm

Hi Everyone. I'm seeking advice on eligibility for the OCI card.

My mother was born in the UK in1957. Her great-grandparent was born in India in 1869 and lived in India for 10-15 years. And my Mum's great-great grandparents were born in the UK and were married in India in 1867 and gave birth to several children in India.

I have the Indian marriage and birth certificates, but because of the 1950 rule would my mother be eligible to apply? - I can't make sense of when the rules say eligible if the applicant was eligible to apply in 1950.

Furthermore, if my mother is eligible, would that make me eligible to apply too as her daughter? I regularly travel to India, so it would be of great help.

Thank you in advance for any advice.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by BashirB » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:53 pm

Just to let everyone know, I called the High Commission in London to clarify a few rules. (For adults)

1. By law, you automatically lose Indian Citizenship once a foreign one is obtained
2. It is illegal to use the Indian Passport once a foreign one is acquired.
3. You can apply for Indian visa on foreign passport without surrendering Indian one or renouncing Indian citizenship, however you must not use the Indian one.
4. Surrender and Renunciation certificates are needed if you want to apply for OCI. They are not needed if you plan to visit India on visa (although will be costly if you go even 2 times)
5. The lady told me they will know an Indian passport was used to travel because they compare the stamps on the passport to the date on naturalisation certificate (or foreign passport issue date) and if any later dates come up, there is a penalty to pay
6. Even if Indian passport is never used, if you surrender after delay of 3 years, there is still a penalty to pay

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by wotow1923 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:46 pm

Can I get some advice please?

I've got British citizenship and an Indian passport that expired many years ago. This passport has been submitted for surrender almost 8 months ago and I've not heard any updates since then.

Since my wife has an OCI, can I go ahead and apply for OCI on behalf of spouse? Or is there a requirement that I HAVE to apply as root = self? ie. carry on waiting for surrender certificate../

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by learner1947 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:23 pm

I would contact High Commission of India about the status of the surrender certificate, as it shouldn't take more than 10 days.
wotow1923 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:46 pm
Can I get some advice please?

I've got British citizenship and an Indian passport that expired many years ago. This passport has been submitted for surrender almost 8 months ago and I've not heard any updates since then.

Since my wife has an OCI, can I go ahead and apply for OCI on behalf of spouse? Or is there a requirement that I HAVE to apply as root = self? ie. carry on waiting for surrender certificate../

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Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by bobcat » Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:34 pm

Hi all,

Anyone here who had to do a deed poll to remediate the XXX given name issue in first British passport and got the second British passport and thereafter the OCI

1. Does your OCI now match your second British passport?

2. Do you need to submit the deedpoll for OCI purposes as well? I’m wondering how does HCI keep a reconciliation of the names in the surrender certificate vs second British passport to issue OCI as per second British passport?

Sorry if this has been asked before!

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by RonV » Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:12 pm

Do we need to submit a hard copy of the Photo at VFS for the OCI application or is the photo uploaded online enough?

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by BashirB » Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:38 pm

wotow1923 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:46 pm
Can I get some advice please?

I've got British citizenship and an Indian passport that expired many years ago. This passport has been submitted for surrender almost 8 months ago and I've not heard any updates since then.

Since my wife has an OCI, can I go ahead and apply for OCI on behalf of spouse? Or is there a requirement that I HAVE to apply as root = self? ie. carry on waiting for surrender certificate../

Have you been contacted to pay the £160 penalty for late surrender (after 3 years)? If no, then probably your application hasn't even been opened yet. You should call them and offer to pay it. It won't progress otherwise.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by whois_ashish » Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:12 am

My Timeline Including applying for Renunciation Certificate

Online application submitted: 24/09/2023

Applied for Renunciation: 02/10/2023
Received Renunciation Certificate: 02/01/2024

Document submission date at VFS Goswell London: 11/01/2024
Application Acknowledgment: 13/01/2024 (status enquiry said under process from no record found, no emails received)
Original Docs received: 15/01/2024 (via Royal Mail Special Delivery)
OCI application status page changes: 02/02/2024 Document printing/Processed/OCI number displayed
OCI Card received: Pending, I suppose should come before 07/02/2024 (via Royal Mail Special Delivery)

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by ladcameo » Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:54 pm

Hi All,

I have applied Renunciation and OCI in parallel.

I have got my renunciation certificate last week. No change in the OCI card status so far.

Wanted to know if anyone went through the same route and got their OCI cards.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by Art87ee » Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:51 pm

ladcameo wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:54 pm
Hi All,

I have applied Renunciation and OCI in parallel.

I have got my renunciation certificate last week. No change in the OCI card status so far.

Wanted to know if anyone went through the same route and got their OCI cards.
According to VFS, a scan of the renunciation certificate has to be provided before OCI can be approved. You could call them or the HCI to ask where to send the scan.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by gk777 » Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:20 am

ladcameo wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:54 pm
Hi All,

I have applied Renunciation and OCI in parallel.

I have got my renunciation certificate last week. No change in the OCI card status so far.

Wanted to know if anyone went through the same route and got their OCI cards.


Hi - what is your timeline for renunciation? How long did it take to recieve the certificate? ]

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by ladcameo » Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:43 am

Art87ee wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:51 pm
ladcameo wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:54 pm
Hi All,

I have applied Renunciation and OCI in parallel.

I have got my renunciation certificate last week. No change in the OCI card status so far.

Wanted to know if anyone went through the same route and got their OCI cards.
According to VFS, a scan of the renunciation certificate has to be provided before OCI can be approved. You could call them or the HCI to ask where to send the scan.
Finally my OCI status changed to approved, hopefully I will get it this week.

Yes, I have sent a soft copy of my renunciation certificate to below email addresses
inf.london@mea.gov.in,
oci.london@mea.gov.in,
helpdesk-oci@gov.in

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by ladcameo » Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:45 am

gk777 wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:20 am
ladcameo wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:54 pm
Hi All,

I have applied Renunciation and OCI in parallel.

I have got my renunciation certificate last week. No change in the OCI card status so far.

Wanted to know if anyone went through the same route and got their OCI cards.


Hi - what is your timeline for renunciation? How long did it take to recieve the certificate? ]
Applied on 19th October, status changed to approved on 18th Jan, got the physical copy on 23rd Jan.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by cfc_2015 » Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:39 am

My Timeline

Renunciation Certificate:
Location: VFS Goswell, London
In-person submission date: 22/12/2023
Status: Application Received (as of 6 Feb 2024)
Number of Adult applications: 2
Document receipt: pending

OCI application (Adult):
Location: VFS Goswell, London
In-person submission date: 26/1/2024
Date of acknowledgement: 29/1/2024
Status: Under-process (as of 6 Feb 2024)
Original Docs received: 30/1/2024 (via DX)
Number of adult applications: 2
Document receipt: pending

OCI application (Infant - British Citizen only):
Location: VFS Goswell, London
In-person submission date: 29/1/2024
Date of acknowledgement: 30/1/2024
Status: Under-process (as of 6 Feb 2024)
Original Docs received: 31/1/2024 (via DX)
Document receipt: pending

Understand OCI will not be printed till RC soft copies are sent so eagerly awaiting receipt of RC.

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Re: Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)

Post by learner1947 » Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:19 pm

Do you know where/how to send the soft copy of the RC?

I was told (at the time of my OCI Application) that I will have to upload it to the OCI website but that has now locked.

Thanks!
cfc_2015 wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:39 am
My Timeline

Renunciation Certificate:
Location: VFS Goswell, London
In-person submission date: 22/12/2023
Status: Application Received (as of 6 Feb 2024)
Number of Adult applications: 2
Document receipt: pending

OCI application (Adult):
Location: VFS Goswell, London
In-person submission date: 26/1/2024
Date of acknowledgement: 29/1/2024
Status: Under-process (as of 6 Feb 2024)
Original Docs received: 30/1/2024 (via DX)
Number of adult applications: 2
Document receipt: pending

OCI application (Infant - British Citizen only):
Location: VFS Goswell, London
In-person submission date: 29/1/2024
Date of acknowledgement: 30/1/2024
Status: Under-process (as of 6 Feb 2024)
Original Docs received: 31/1/2024 (via DX)
Document receipt: pending

Understand OCI will not be printed till RC soft copies are sent so eagerly awaiting receipt of RC.

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