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arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:37 am

Hi Guys
My indian GF is in london on work visa and she just got residence there (we are still not married but plan in 2 years) if I can claim points for partner (i am in india and she is in london working in a IT company we meet only 4-5 times a year either me going there or she coming here).
Thanks in advance.

olisun · Post by **olisun** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:43 am

i doubt you can claim points for a partner who is not related to you in anyways and above all you both are not living together from the past 2 yrs at the same address

correct me if i am wrong

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:45 am

Yes it is true but here in british embassy of india i got the visit entry clearence for UK for 2 years by claiming that i am going to meet my GF in london.
So what do you think what can i do.

olisun wrote:i doubt you can claim points for a partner who is not related to you in anyways and above all you both are not living together from the past 2 yrs at the same address

correct me if i am wrong

olisun · Post by **olisun** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:51 am

visit visa is easy to get as the sponsor need not be your relative

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:52 am

Well it is true but this is also true she is my GF and we will live together. If there is something else I can do.

olisun wrote:visit visa is easy to get as the sponsor need not be your relative

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:54 am

She has got UK residence just one month ago if there is something else I can do (not marriage before 2 years)

olisun · Post by **olisun** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:54 am

can you show that you both are living together from the past 2 yrs at the same address ????

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:56 am

This is not possible we are thousand miles apart. but we meet regularly at least 5 times a year.

olisun wrote:can you show that you both are living together from the past 2 yrs at the same address ????

OFCHARITY · Post by **OFCHARITY** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:25 pm

Does your GF have residence as in ILR?, because if she does you cannot claim points for her, so the other points would be irrelevant, the guidance notes states that 'In addition your spouse or partner must not already have been granted settlement (permanent residence) in the UK.'

dhavaluk · Post by **dhavaluk** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:14 am

Hi Arup,

Now this Ofcharity's note has made the point very clear that you can not claim any poitns for her. And unless otherwise also, unless untill u can prove that u were elaving together (regardless married or unmarried partners) you can not get points for partner. You can of course claim, but will not get them for sure.

If she is a residence now, u can marry her and i think she can take u there as her spouce, Can't she?

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:34 pm

Thank you and OfCharity for detailed answer. Yes she just got rsidence just in May, so it means I cannot claim points so sad. But for marriage I am not in hurry I am more interested in career right now.
It is not difficult for me to go to UK and I already have couple of offers for post docs position there, but I was thinking that HSMP is the shortest way to get UK passport. May be I am wrong and there are other ways as well.
Anyhow by marry her if I will be eligible to get UK passport after three years Like marrying to UK citizen? or it will be longer?

dhavaluk wrote:Hi Arup,

Now this Ofcharity's note has made the point very clear that you can not claim any poitns for her. And unless otherwise also, unless untill u can prove that u were elaving together (regardless married or unmarried partners) you can not get points for partner. You can of course claim, but will not get them for sure.

If she is a residence now, u can marry her and i think she can take u there as her spouce, Can't she?

olisun · Post by **olisun** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:24 pm

lol...atleast somebody has been honest and bold enough to speak about his intentions...

does she have a residency permit (ILR) or has she got british citizenship?

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:26 am

She has residence permit.

olisun wrote:lol...atleast somebody has been honest and bold enough to speak about his intentions...

does she have a residency permit (ILR) or has she got british citizenship?

Kayalami · Post by **Kayalami** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:39 am

arup.kumar wrote:She has residence permit.
olisun wrote:
lol...atleast somebody has been honest and bold enough to speak about his intentions...

does she have a residency permit (ILR) or has she got british citizenship?

1. How long has she worked in the UK?

2. Your comment that she has a residence permit is not on its own definitive enough given that all leave granted by the Home Office effective on or around AUG 2003 is in the form of a residence permit. What category is her residence permit - settlement/indefinite or limited leave?

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:51 am

She has ILR.
Just one thing I am looking to your posts number these are same 1971 over period of time if it dont change.
Enjoy your time and thanks in advance for your help.

Kayalami wrote:
arup.kumar wrote:She has residence permit.
olisun wrote:
lol...atleast somebody has been honest and bold enough to speak about his intentions...

does she have a residency permit (ILR) or has she got british citizenship?
1. How long has she worked in the UK?

2. Your comment that she has a residence permit is not on its own definitive enough given that all leave granted by the Home Office effective on or around AUG 2003 is in the form of a residence permit. What category is her residence permit - settlement/indefinite or limited leave?

bani · Post by **bani** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:35 pm

If you already have job offers, just go for a workpermit for now. If your girlfriend already has ILR then she would be able to get UK citizenship soon, around the time you plan to marry. Anyway, it takes as long to get to ILR from a workpermit as it does from HSMP, in case you want to postpone the marriage further.

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:25 pm

Hi Bani
Thanks for your help. BTW I was thinking that in HSMP after three years you get ILR while for work permit it take around five year to get ILR. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks again.

bani · Post by **bani** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:55 pm

Hi arup, both of them take 4 years right now to get to ILR.

arup.kumar wrote:Hi Bani
Thanks for your help. BTW I was thinking that in HSMP after three years you get ILR while for work permit it take around five year to get ILR. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks again.

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:19 pm

Hi again bani
Sorry to ask so many questions to you but then what is the advantage to get HSMP, I am just a layman in such matters but it seems that as I have offers I go to British embassy in delhi and get work visa for 4-5 years and after staying in UK for 4 years I get ILR and finally naturalization.
Then why to waste time for applying HSMP wait for decision, get EC go there find a job, apply extension and live for 4 years.

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:24 pm

I forget to tell that I had 5 years visit visa which expired last year and I have been issued again 5 years visit visa expiring June 2009 to visit my GF, It seems that to get work visa will be also not big deal. Again May be I am wrong.
Thanks again

bani · Post by **bani** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:35 am

Hi arup, main advantage is you can go to the UK and accept any sort of job. No other paperwork needed. It is not easy to find an employer who is willing to sponsor a workpermit, though for postdoc positions at research institutions it is quite routine. Another advantage is you can change jobs freely. On a workpermit, you have to stick with that employer. If you can get a 4-5 year workpermit then you're ok through to ILR, but if your contract is less than that, then you'll need another workpermit when the first one expires.

My suggestion is that if you don't have enough points for HSMP, just go for the workpermit for now. It is much faster too.

arup.kumar wrote:Hi again bani
Sorry to ask so many questions to you but then what is the advantage to get HSMP, I am just a layman in such matters but it seems that as I have offers I go to British embassy in delhi and get work visa for 4-5 years and after staying in UK for 4 years I get ILR and finally naturalization.
Then why to waste time for applying HSMP wait for decision, get EC go there find a job, apply extension and live for 4 years.

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:29 pm

Thanks a lot Bani
You solved my many problems.
Thanks again.
Good luck

bani · Post by **bani** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:30 am

btw, your employer has to apply for the workpermit, not you. when they send you the permit, that's when you apply for a work visa.

arup.kumar · Post by **arup.kumar** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:45 am

I dont know how does this work But I have offer of post doc (research scientist) from Imperial college london for 5 years contract and I guess they might have already got work permit.
I have offer letter but did not made my mind yet to go there but in documents they send me it is mentioned to present offer letter and valid passport alongwith my qualification documents to embassy to get visa ( i even dont know by this what kind of visa I will be issued), Should I ask embassy to give work permit visa.
After so many years of study I think that I am most ignorant person when it is about immigration or anything else than studies.

bani · Post by **bani** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:28 pm

Imperial College has to apply for the work permit, they can't do that until you've accepted the job offer.

You should read this page, it explains the process-
http://www.workpermit.com/uk/employer.htm

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