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GOOD NEWS FOR EVERYONE! (Please read this *VERY IMPORTANT)

Post by confusedhsmp » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:21 pm

Hi guys,

I got my flr stamped on my passport today.

I used one of the solicitors here in london. They have been extremely helpful and guided me well. Plus their charges are a lot less.

I did all my homework for preparing the application and asked them to verify and send the documents. All they sharged me was £100!! hhehee

I swear the name of any solicitor on your application helps by making you look more credible and serious.

If anyone wants to know their contact detials please email me. I would recommend then to even my enemy. I am going mad due to hapiness...loool

love you guys..

Also if you need any help in your application ask me!!!

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Post by azamabidsultan » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:17 pm

Hi
Congrats for your HSMP...

I am in the UK and and on SEGS work permit and planning to file my HSMP in coupld of days. Everything is clear except one point whihc is dependent visa....actually one of the lawyers told me that i can apply for HSMP dependent visa on my wife's behalf (while shes in pakistan) at the FLR stage so homeoffice will issue me a letter that i'll need to send it to my wife there she will then submit that letter along wiht her passport to get entry clearance at British High Commision, Pakistan....instead of filing a new case at the high commission in Pakistan...if you know what i mean..this is what i have been told but I am not sure....
this is what his reply was....


'Once you have HSMP, we will be able to obtain a dependents visa for your wife. She will need to be stamped in Pakistan.'


do you know or heard anything this before?

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Post by gainvidya » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:37 pm

The subject is really misleading with the word...

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Post by sakura » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:45 pm

gainvidya wrote:The subject is really misleading with the word...
Agreed...I thought it might have to do with the court rulings or something. It's not good news for me because I don't get anything out of it! :lol:

(that was a joke, btw...congrats to the OP).

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Post by pantaiema » Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:03 pm

congraTULATION
confusedhsmp wrote:Hi guys,

I got my flr stamped on my passport today.

I used one of the solicitors here in london. They have been extremely helpful and guided me well. Plus their charges are a lot less.

I did all my homework for preparing the application and asked them to verify and send the documents. All they sharged me was £100!! hhehee

I swear the name of any solicitor on your application helps by making you look more credible and serious.

If anyone wants to know their contact detials please email me. I would recommend then to even my enemy. I am going mad due to hapiness...loool

love you guys..

Also if you need any help in your application ask me!!!
Pantaiema

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Post by magsi23 » Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:04 pm

When i read the thread subject i thought they have reduced points for HSMP from 75 to 5 :lol:
Magsi

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Post by confusedhsmp » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:30 am

Welll guys dont be silly lol....I bet you expect me to say that the Home Office is giving HSMP approvals outside malls like pamphlets for free...hehe...

The good news was that you dont realise the difference an application through solicitor can make!

since March 2007 everyone has started applying for HSMP. doing your application through solicitor gives you competitive edge. I wont say that you get extra points however the caseworker tends not to mess with lawyers :lol:

if you require contact detail of the lawyer. email me.

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Post by SYH » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:37 am

confusedhsmp wrote:Welll guys dont be silly lol....I bet you expect me to say that the Home Office is giving HSMP approvals outside malls like pamphlets for free...hehe...

The good news was that you dont realise the difference an application through solicitor can make!

since March 2007 everyone has started applying for HSMP. doing your application through solicitor gives you competitive edge. I wont say that you get extra points however the caseworker tends not to mess with lawyers :lol:

if you require contact detail of the lawyer. email me.
I don't think that is the case, the lawyer tends to not make mistakes, it isn't a competitive edge, it is more like insurance, it doesn't mean you will get approved but you covered your basis to avoid rejection.

If you are as confused as most people are, then you should use a solicitor to avoid mishaps

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Post by confusedhsmp » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:41 am

SYH wrote:
confusedhsmp wrote:Welll guys dont be silly lol....I bet you expect me to say that the Home Office is giving HSMP approvals outside malls like pamphlets for free...hehe...

The good news was that you dont realise the difference an application through solicitor can make!

since March 2007 everyone has started applying for HSMP. doing your application through solicitor gives you competitive edge. I wont say that you get extra points however the caseworker tends not to mess with lawyers :lol:

if you require contact detail of the lawyer. email me.
I don't think that is the case, the lawyer tends to not make mistakes, it isn't a competitive edge, it is more like insurance, it doesn't mean you will get approved but you covered your basis to avoid rejection.

If you are as confused as most people are, then you should use a solicitor to avoid mishaps
Chill SYH! i neva meant the way you took it..m sorry to hurt your feelings.

Be positive.

its not confusion..its about someone assuring you on your worst fears. Just mere confidence can get ur luck shining back again!

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Post by SYH » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:46 am

confusedhsmp wrote:
SYH wrote:
confusedhsmp wrote:Welll guys dont be silly lol....I bet you expect me to say that the Home Office is giving HSMP approvals outside malls like pamphlets for free...hehe...

The good news was that you dont realise the difference an application through solicitor can make!

since March 2007 everyone has started applying for HSMP. doing your application through solicitor gives you competitive edge. I wont say that you get extra points however the caseworker tends not to mess with lawyers :lol:

if you require contact detail of the lawyer. email me.
I don't think that is the case, the lawyer tends to not make mistakes, it isn't a competitive edge, it is more like insurance, it doesn't mean you will get approved but you covered your basis to avoid rejection.

If you are as confused as most people are, then you should use a solicitor to avoid mishaps
Chill SYH! i neva meant the way you took it..m sorry to hurt your feelings.

Be positive.

its not confusion..its about someone assuring you on your worst fears. Just mere confidence can get ur luck shining back again!
I think that is what I just said,
Chill yourself

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Congrats

Post by ammu28 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:42 pm

hey ,
Will they does HSMP ?
If so please email me: ammublr@gmail.com


Ammu

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Post by larry » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:48 am

Hi Confusedhsmp,
Did you meet the 75 marks or not on your own assessment?

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solicitor -v- consultant

Post by confusedhsmp » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:00 pm

Yes i just touched on 75.

My case was a bit complicated because i am just 22 yo. I had previous experience whilst studying fulltime. But the Home Office rules say that they either consider full-time studies or full-time work. (if you are aware)

This is when i approached solicitor and they literelly found way our for me. I cant explain you here because its too too long. Its not dodgy or something but some intentional loop hole in Home Office rule which a normal person can never catch.

This is why i recommend solicitor beacuase when they prepare your case, they take everything in consideration. Even the review.

Consultants just bullshit whatever is there in guidance notes anyway.

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Post by VictoriaS » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:46 pm

confusedhsmp wrote:Yes i just touched on 75.

Consultants just bullshit whatever is there in guidance notes anyway.
Hahahahaha! It's a bit more scientific than that...the point with consultants is that we read between the lines and learn by our mistakes, so each time we hear of a refusal we know what not to do next time we apply!

But if your application is complicated then it is worth using a consultant. We will know what arguments to use if there is something complex, and we'd know whether or not the documents you submit are suitable.

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Re: solicitor -v- consultant

Post by confusedhsmp » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:06 pm

VictoriaS wrote:
confusedhsmp wrote:Yes i just touched on 75.

Consultants just bullshit whatever is there in guidance notes anyway.
Hahahahaha! It's a bit more scientific than that...the point with consultants is that we read between the lines and learn by our mistakes, so each time we hear of a refusal we know what not to do next time we apply!

Victoria
Thats what i said.. you make money by risking your clients..thats not professional! isit? Please understand how much our applications means to us! its our career, future and life.

Thanx for proving my point victoria.

Lawyers and Solicitors know what they are doing before they send the application.

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Re: solicitor -v- consultant

Post by VictoriaS » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:12 pm

confusedhsmp wrote:
Thats what i said.. you make money by risking your clients..thats not professional! isit? Please understand how much our applications means to us! its our career, future and life.

Thanx for proving my point victoria.

Lawyers and Solicitors know what they are doing before they send the application.
Well that is totally unfair! Of course we understand what your applications mean to you, and that is why we do our utmost to get the applications approved, why we don't submit applications unless we are confident of success, why we inform clients of risks in advance, and, on the occasions that we fail, we learn by our mistakes. Most refusals come in because the Home Office make a mistake or move the goal posts, and there is little we can do about that other than appeal and hope for the best.

Please remember that OISC inspect our files every year to make sure that we are advising correctly and doint everything properly. Solicitors do not have the same kind of inspection, and do not need any experience or knowledge of immigration law to practice.

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Re: solicitor -v- consultant

Post by confusedhsmp » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:59 pm

VictoriaS wrote: Please remember that OISC inspect our files every year to make sure that we are advising correctly and doint everything properly. Solicitors do not have the same kind of inspection, and do not need any experience or knowledge of immigration law to practice. Victoria
Interesting. so now its Law Society -v- OICS ?

You are right. I think we should have consultants representing in High Courts as Solicitors dont seem to be fit for the job (as you say. LOL).

I dont know much about solicitors but can say that they do have the knowledge of Immigration Law otherwise they wont be allowed to practice. Regarding experience even OICS dont need experince as such! its the same. experience adds to your crediblity.

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Re: solicitor -v- consultant

Post by chicku » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:01 pm

Even I think that consultants should not be used. This forum is in fact better than any consultant. Here you get answer to most of the querries. People who have benefitted from the forum continue to give their advise and experience and benefit other members. The amount of experience and advise that can be available on this forum is far far more than one can get at consultants. And the consultant are generally busy handling several applications ( of the naive applicants ) and even more busy counting the dollars and pounds than even bothering about the application. Thier agreement will have several clause written in fine print which the applicant generally does not go through, as he has reposed trust with the consultant , and this is where the consultant hack the dagger in the back.

I do not intend to favour solicitors though, as I have not heared much about them.

Further, it would be better for the health of this forum that, consutants with thier signature advertising themselves as great consultants recognised by so and so body should not be permitted.

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Re: solicitor -v- consultant

Post by VictoriaS » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:08 pm

confusedhsmp wrote:
Interesting. so now its Law Society -v- OICS ?
No, not at all, but I have worked in firms regulated by the Law Society and firms regulated by OISC, and I know that solicitors firms don't get an annual audit as we do. They spent a day last week going through our casefiles, and it's a tough process!
confusedhsmp wrote:

You are right. I think we should have consultants representing in High Courts as Solicitors dont seem to be fit for the job (as you say. LOL).
Now you are putting words in my mouth! I know many excellent immigration solicitors, and I know many excellent OISC consultants. I also know rubbish solicitors and rubbish consultants. I don't say we are any better, but that some are good and some are bad, as with any profession.
confusedhsmp wrote:
I dont know much about solicitors but can say that they do have the knowledge of Immigration Law otherwise they wont be allowed to practice. Regarding experience even OICS dont need experince as such! its the same. experience adds to your crediblity.
Not quite true. OISC consultants have to take an immigration law exam before we are permitted to practice. Solicitors don't, unless they are doing Legal Aid work. Of course, most solicitors would not set up as immigration specialists without the experience.

This isn't mean to be a 'consultants v solicitors' thread. I just want people to keep an open mind and judge on merits, and, as you say, experience.

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Post by confusedhsmp » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:48 pm

Fine victoria! so u a level 3 OICS..got ur point! fair enuf..

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Post by ssoct98@hotmail.com » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:07 pm

Looks that confused want to confuse all,I BELIEVE THAT SOLICITORS CANT DO BETTER AS FOR THEM THEY JUST DO ACCORDING TO PAPERS,THEY DONT TAKE CASE SERIOUSLY,I BELIEVE WAT U CAN DO URSELF SOLICITORS CAN DO AT ALL.
AND CONFUSED EVERYONE CAN TALK CASEWORKER,I BELIVE LAWYERS ALWAYS HIDE THINGS FROM U,BETTER TO GET ALL ADVICE FROM HO DIRECTLY,SO PLEASE GIVE ADVICES TO FORUM MEMBERS DONT MARKET URSELF.
BEST OF LUCK FOR ALL

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Re: solicitor -v- consultant

Post by avjones » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:20 pm

VictoriaS wrote:
Please remember that OISC inspect our files every year to make sure that we are advising correctly and doint everything properly. Solicitors do not have the same kind of inspection, and do not need any experience or knowledge of immigration law to practice.

Victoria
I'm not entirely sure that is true. Certainly, as far as public funding is concerned, they do have to prove they know what they are talking about, and take extra exams in immigration law.

Solicitors and barristers also have the advantage of being trained lawyers, and having 5 or 6 years of academic and vocational training before they are qualified.

In addition, as I understand it, consultants can't act in the High Court or Court of Appeal.
I am not, and cannot, offer legal advice to particular people. I can only discuss general areas of immigration law.

People should always consider obtaining professional advice about their own particular circumstances.

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Post by ssoct98@hotmail.com » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:38 am

ALL is right but consultant dont take ur cases seriously,and HO is there u can get all guidelines from them,i believe best thing if u do on ur own,bcz the pain which u can take for ur case,noone can take,i again said to me this thread is just a marketing.
dont waste money on consultant study guidelines,get ur points cleared by discussing HO helplines,bcz they are always happy to help us.

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Query Pls help

Post by hmittal » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:18 pm

Hi All

Can you help me with the basic Query regarding gross salary.
1)The gross salary considered is before tax. right?
2) There is deduction from my employer like
a) Income Tax
b) Provident Fund
c) Professional Tax
d) Welfare fund tax.
Should I deduct all 4(a,b,c,d) to calculate points
e.g
Gross is 1000
a)200
b)100
c)100
d)50

should I consider 1000 or 550 or 800 to calculate points
Please help.
Regards
HM

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Re: Query Pls help

Post by confusedhsmp » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:37 am

hmittal wrote:Hi All

Can you help me with the basic Query regarding gross salary.
1)The gross salary considered is before tax. right?
2) There is deduction from my employer like
a) Income Tax
b) Provident Fund
c) Professional Tax
d) Welfare fund tax.
Should I deduct all 4(a,b,c,d) to calculate points
e.g
Gross is 1000
a)200
b)100
c)100
d)50

should I consider 1000 or 550 or 800 to calculate points
Please help.
Regards
HM
1000. simple :D

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