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Registering a baby born abraod

Post by 5am1224 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:20 pm

Would a non British non EU mother register a baby in the UK without the British father permission!!! currently the child is registered under the father name abroad, the mother is in the process of claiming a child support from the father abroad vi the court and wants to register the baby in the UK so she can get a 2nd child support from the father in the UK as well.

Also the solicitor in the UK is telling the mother that all the money she will be spending on the case he will be claiming it back from the father as a court and a solicitor fees once he wins the case.... is this true!!!

Your response will be much appreciated.

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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by Mauser1905 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:42 pm

5am1224 wrote:Would a non British non EU mother register a baby in the UK without the British father permission!!! currently the child is registered under the father name abroad, the mother is in the process of claiming a child support from the father abroad vi the court and wants to register the baby in the UK so she can get a 2nd child support from the father in the UK as well.

Also the solicitor in the UK is telling the mother that all the money she will be spending on the case he will be claiming it back from the father as a court and a solicitor fees once he wins the case.... is this true!!!

Your response will be much appreciated.
Can you clarify?

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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by fwd079 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:54 pm

5am1224 wrote:Would a non British non EU mother register a baby in the UK without the British father permission!!!
Does mother hold an ILR visa? Go through this link please. Because if mother has ILR and child born in UK, then child's British Citizenship is easier.
5am1224 wrote: Also the solicitor in the UK is telling the mother that all the money she will be spending on the case he will be claiming it back from the father as a court and a solicitor fees once he wins the case.... is this true!!!

Your response will be much appreciated.
Yes solicitor can claim all legal fees back from father. That's possible, if mother wins the case.
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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by 5am1224 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:17 pm

Mauser1905 wrote:
5am1224 wrote:Would a non British non EU mother register a baby in the UK without the British father permission!!! currently the child is registered under the father name abroad, the mother is in the process of claiming a child support from the father abroad vi the court and wants to register the baby in the UK so she can get a 2nd child support from the father in the UK as well.

Also the solicitor in the UK is telling the mother that all the money she will be spending on the case he will be claiming it back from the father as a court and a solicitor fees once he wins the case.... is this true!!!

Your response will be much appreciated.
Can you clarify?

The Father is a British citizen with dual nationality, the baby was born abroad in a non EU country and the mother is a non EU Citizen, baby is not registered in the UK.

The baby is registered abroad under his father and mother name in the country baby was born in, things didn't work between the parents so the mother is asking for divorce and in the process of claiming a child support from the father abroad, at the same time she also is trying to register the baby in the UK and then will claim a child support for the baby in the UK as well as abroad .......

The father has sent a letter to the British embassy to inform the authority that not to register the baby without DNA check.

So can the mother still register the baby without DNA check?

Also if the mother wins the case would she able to re-claim the court and solicitor fees?

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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by secret.simon » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:47 am

Is the father British by birth or naturalisation or is he British by descent?

If he is the former (by birth or naturalisation) and the father was a British citizen at the time of birth of the child , the child is already British by descent whereever in the world they are born and does not need registration. I believe that you can apply for a British passport for the child without registration straightaway.

On the other hand, if the child was born before the father became a British citizen (by naturalisation) or he himself was born abroad, but inherited British citizenship from his parents, the child will need registration. In any case, the registration is a matter for the Home Office, not the father, to decide. The Home Office may ask for a DNA test at its discretion, which I presume a mother of the child with its best interests at heart would not oppose.

If it were to go to court, the UK courts will look at the well-being of the child, in addition to the opinion of the father.

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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by fwd079 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:43 pm

secret.simon wrote:Is the father British by birth or naturalisation or is he British by descent?
What is mother's current visa status?

Because if she is on ILR then she may not need Father's permission, what do you think?
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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by Mauser1905 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:06 pm

I may be wrong but I reckon reading something = If the father is British by birth and child is to claim citizenship on father, then if there are doubts paternity test/s may be required.

If the father's claim is genuine then it will be can of worms case.

Reading between the lines, gut feeling is bitter divorce and child being dragged in between the two adults! Without taking anybody's side: mother trying to drain father financially and father creating obstacles in mother's life.

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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by fwd079 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:54 pm

Possibly but don't want to make personal comments as that might scare the member away mate. I'd await reply from member who posted the question.
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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by 5am1224 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:21 pm

Hi guys,

The father have just told me that his marriage to his wife was not officially registered in abroad until the baby was 5 moth old, but according to the law of that country they had to backdate the marriage 9 moth before the baby was born otherwise it's kind of a big massive shame. the marriage certificate is actually showing that the official marriage was after the baby was born but again it states that both of the parents were married but not officially. would that makes any difference to the registration of the baby in the UK as the father wasn't officially married to the mother when the baby was born or being married to the mother or not at baby's birth will make no difference!!!

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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

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Re: Registering a baby born abraod

Post by fwd079 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:50 am

5am1224 wrote:Hi guys,

The father have just told me that his marriage to his wife was not officially registered in abroad until the baby was 5 moth old, but according to the law of that country they had to backdate the marriage 9 moth before the baby was born otherwise it's kind of a big massive shame. the marriage certificate is actually showing that the official marriage was after the baby was born but again it states that both of the parents were married but not officially. would that makes any difference to the registration of the baby in the UK as the father wasn't officially married to the mother when the baby was born or being married to the mother or not at baby's birth will make no difference!!!
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