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UK born baby living abroad

Post by rajvet » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:13 pm

HI ALL
I am on ILR my daughter was born in UK in 2009 when I was on tier 1 general and my wife was my dependent than they left for Pakistan and living in Pakistan now I have got ILR , just want to ask that can I apply for registration(naturalization) for my daughter if she comes on visit visa here in UK thanks

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by milan69 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:23 am

As you have ILR your child is eligible for citizenship.
If the child was born in the UK before one parent had ILR/PR, then once one parent is granted ILR, the child is entitled register as BC under section 1(3) of the British Nationality Act irrespective of their immigration status.

This application is an entitlement and as such the HO has no discretion in the decision if the statutory requirements are met. The application can be made any time before the child is 18. The only documents required are UK birth certificate and evidence that parent obtained ILR/PR. The application can be made if the child is in the UK or abroad.

If the child was born in the UK after one parent has ILR/PR, then the child is British from birth and can apply directly for a passport.
I am sometimes wrong.

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by rajvet » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:16 am

Thank you very much Milan for your reply
but the thing I am concerned of is
after four months of birth my wife and daughter left UK and living in Pakistan since than
so she does not meet the requirement of been in UK for continuous period.
Still can I apply for her or not. thanks

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by CR001 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:06 pm

You can still register the child as British as it is an entitlement.
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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by rajvet » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:41 pm

thanks very much

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by rajvet » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:43 pm

thanks cr001
just wanted to ask another question
who will be her referee as they say one of referee should be one who is attached to her professionally e.g. health visitor or school teacher .
but she does not have any of them as she was not living here so who can be the referee.
thanks

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by rajvet » Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:11 pm

Please help
thanks

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by akhurshid » Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:29 pm

rajvet wrote:thanks cr001
just wanted to ask another question
who will be her referee as they say one of referee should be one who is attached to her professionally e.g. health visitor or school teacher .
but she does not have any of them as she was not living here so who can be the referee.
thanks
That doesn't matter as long referees can confirm that they know you and your daughter.

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by rajvet » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:46 pm

thanks very much

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UK Passport for Child Born and Living Abroad

Post by akramroy » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:12 pm

Hi All,

I have tried to find out answer from MN1 guide but couldn't found. Please guide me through regarding below

- I have recently applied ILR on long residency basis.
- My two children's born in UK in Dec, 2012 and 2014 before my ILR.
- They both traveled back home with my wife in April, 2014.
- My wife in on dependent visa & doesn't have ILR yet.

With above circumstances can i apply their MN1 Registration from here (uk) even they are aboard or from country they are living now? If i can apply from here or aboard, what documents do i need? I will appreciate you help, guidance and quick reply.

Many thanks!

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by akramroy » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:20 pm

rajvet wrote:thanks very much
Hi Rajvet,

I'm in same situation. May children's born here but now outside uk from more than one years.

I have got ILR now and wondering can i apply their registration from here even they are aboard.

Have you applied or not yet. Please help. Thanks

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by vinny » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:15 pm

Yes. Try using the NCS.
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Re: UK Passport for Child Born and Living Abroad

Post by rajvet » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:30 pm

akramroy wrote:Hi All,

I have tried to find out answer from MN1 guide but couldn't found. Please guide me through regarding below

- I have recently applied ILR on long residency basis.
- My two children's born in UK in Dec, 2012 and 2014 before my ILR.
- They both traveled back home with my wife in April, 2014.
- My wife in on dependent visa & doesn't have ILR yet.

With above circumstances can i apply their MN1 Registration from here (uk) even they are aboard or from country they are living now? If i can apply from here or aboard, what documents do i need? I will appreciate you help, guidance and quick reply.

Many thanks!
Yes you can apply from here
documents required.
1 their full UK birth certificates
2 MN1 forms
3 your passport and ILR card

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Re: UK Passport for Child Born and Living Abroad

Post by akramroy » Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:19 pm

rajvet wrote:
akramroy wrote:Hi All,

I have tried to find out answer from MN1 guide but couldn't found. Please guide me through regarding below

- I have recently applied ILR on long residency basis.
- My two children's born in UK in Dec, 2012 and 2014 before my ILR.
- They both traveled back home with my wife in April, 2014.
- My wife in on dependent visa & doesn't have ILR yet.

With above circumstances can i apply their MN1 Registration from here (uk) even they are aboard or from country they are living now? If i can apply from here or aboard, what documents do i need? I will appreciate you help, guidance and quick reply.

Many thanks!
Yes you can apply from here
documents required.
1 their full UK birth certificates
2 MN1 forms
3 your passport and ILR card
Many thanks Brov,

I have checked with few solicitors most said i can but few answered i cann't as well.
I just want to make sure is your case was same & when did you applied for you children? Thanks

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by rajvet » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:02 pm

Dear akramroy
I am doing reserch on this from a month or so I got ILR last year and asked a solicitor can I apply for my daughter (at that time my family was here on visit) he said yes but it will take 3to4 months and your family has to go back before visit visa expiry. He didnt tell me about NCS. because of that wrong advise i wasted one year. I am in the process of filling the MN1 form now after a deep reserch which concluded that its an entitlement under section 1(3) of the British nationality act 1981. So you can apply , I will apply in three weeks time.
Thanks

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Re: UK Passport for Child Born and Living Abroad

Post by Mauser1905 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:59 pm

akramroy wrote:
rajvet wrote:
akramroy wrote:Hi All,

I have tried to find out answer from MN1 guide but couldn't found. Please guide me through regarding below

- I have recently applied ILR on long residency basis.
- My two children's born in UK in Dec, 2012 and 2014 before my ILR.
- They both traveled back home with my wife in April, 2014.
- My wife in on dependent visa & doesn't have ILR yet.

With above circumstances can i apply their MN1 Registration from here (uk) even they are aboard or from country they are living now? If i can apply from here or aboard, what documents do i need? I will appreciate you help, guidance and quick reply.

Many thanks!
Yes you can apply from here
documents required.
1 their full UK birth certificates
2 MN1 forms
3 your passport and ILR card
Many thanks Brov,

I have checked with few solicitors most said i can but few answered i cann't as well.
I just want to make sure is your case was same & when did you applied for you children? Thanks
Have you READ signature in vinny's post? and also in the subsequent pages where vinny's links take you?
MN1 Section 1(3) is entitlement is so straight forward you may not require third party agent to do this for you. Have you checked about NCS local to you?

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by akramroy » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:31 pm

Thanks Rajvet & Mauser1905,

Its true that that MN1 Section 1(3) is pretty straight forward but my only concern is that my children's are not in uk now and wondering can i still apply MN1 from here even they are aboard with mother. I'm sorry few people confused me this is only reason want to make sure. Thanks very much!

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by rajvet » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:28 pm

yes brother u can

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by akramroy » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:24 am

Hi Brov, Have you applied MN1 or not yet? Please respond. Thanks
rajvet wrote:yes brother u can

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by ALI97 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:05 am

Hi akramroy
I think u missed ur train if u still not applied for ur kids mn1
That was very straightforward to apply for kids even they r not present in uk
But from 06 April 2015 there is requirements for biometric registration as well ......so I think now is difficult to apply if kids outside uk.

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Re: UK born baby living abroad

Post by akramroy » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:26 pm

ALI97 wrote:Hi akramroy
I think u missed ur train if u still not applied for ur kids mn1
That was very straightforward to apply for kids even they r not present in uk
But from 06 April 2015 there is requirements for biometric registration as well ......so I think now is difficult to apply if kids outside uk.
Hi ALI97,

Thanks for your reply. Do you know anyone who applied MN1 outside uk before 6th April, i need help to fill up application form.
I called HO to confirm according to them i can still apply and digital photo can be given in specific center aboard (not biometric for kids under 6 years). Please members guide me through really urgent. Thanks

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