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Yes, trying to study general English same school. I didn't explain that goal as I've never thought and done I had to(and got 3 visas before).ouflak1 wrote:Were you trying to take the exact same course you'd taken previously (or a practically identical analog)? Have you explained your goal of achieving that score on the IELTS in your applications? If there is a course more advanced/intensive, would you consider taking it? At some point, there is a reasonable expectation of educational progress either driven by yourself and/or your results. I suspect this may be what they are looking for. There are only so many English courses you can take before outside observers can figure that you've either finally picked up the language to a satisfactory level and are ready to move on, or have not picked it up and maybe never will. I personally think that the questioning of your money was a bit petty, but I'm not a case worker so there's not much to do about that except explain exactly where the money came from emphasizing its intention to help you become an expert English speaker.
If it is possible to take the IELTS in your country, you might consider just putting yourself through some intensive training and go from there. I've got some advice along those lines (as someone who has learned to fluency a foreign language in my 20/30's).
I have to say then that I think this is probably what really hurt your application more than anything else. To put this into perspective, there are students who come to England with English language skill probably not all that much better than yours was when you first came to England, and after 3-4 years got a degree in English Literature from an internationally accredited and recognized university.peludao wrote:Yes, trying to study general English same school.ouflak1 wrote:Were you trying to take the exact same course you'd taken previously (or a practically identical analog)? Have you explained your goal of achieving that score on the IELTS in your applications? If there is a course more advanced/intensive, would you consider taking it? At some point, there is a reasonable expectation of educational progress either driven by yourself and/or your results. I suspect this may be what they are looking for. There are only so many English courses you can take before outside observers can figure that you've either finally picked up the language to a satisfactory level and are ready to move on, or have not picked it up and maybe never will. I personally think that the questioning of your money was a bit petty, but I'm not a case worker so there's not much to do about that except explain exactly where the money came from emphasizing its intention to help you become an expert English speaker.
If it is possible to take the IELTS in your country, you might consider just putting yourself through some intensive training and go from there. I've got some advice along those lines (as someone who has learned to fluency a foreign language in my 20/30's).
Yeah well I think the money thing was just them basically piling it on. The fact is, from the courses you took, especially the tourism course, two things are obvious from your application. 1) Your English is not bad at all and 2) You never seemed to actually work in the tourism industry or anywhere that required someone having good command of the English language (again which you seem to have). It's not unfair for them to ask, "Are we wasting our time as well as your time and money?"peludao wrote:I didn't explain that goal as I've never thought and done I had to(and got 3 visas before).
Basically I got 7 on ielts and need to improve this mark to get more points in a work application AUS. And I could and would progress indeed, as I need and can improve my English language and marks on IELTS. And I always showed progression when I studied there in the past, but there's still some to go.
And about the money, yes, it seems it's just a reason to deny entry clearance.
Well you may be preaching to the choir on this point. Having been raked over the coals for some decent coin myself, I'll never question the avarice of the Home Office, and there are many many others on this forum who have gotten it stuck to them for more than I have. That said, I do believe if they really simply wanted your money, they would have just waived you on through and taken your tuition money as well.peludao wrote: In 3 years in the UK I've never done anything wrong in the UK, and now this shi*, seriously I feel they want to keep students away but still want the visa money.
Can you explain me better this?Greenie wrote:It means you can only appeal on limited grounds (human rights grounds) which won't succeed.