Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

sidcostas wrote:

liquidweb wrote:This forum is like a free counselling service. We would probably go crazy considering the ludicrous time HO is taking to provide an immigration status that we all know we have already obtained. Yesterday ONS published the data and I wonder if anyone of you noted that there is 30% rejection rate for PR at the moment (data valid till end of June 2015) when it was 20% just 4 years back.

Hi liquidweb, where did you read this information about the rejection rate, in the other hand isn't it illegal for them to reject an application that is correct and contain all the information needed? Do we know of anyone on this forum waiting for more than 6 months? what is your timeline Liquidweb.
I still have 2 months to wait if they are taking 6 months to deal with Pr application, this is so bad, I have a friend that applied early this year and his taken exactly for months and another one has taken only 3 months. The introduction of biometrics seems to have allowed things down big time.

Regards

I think it also depends on the caseworker as well to be honest. Some of the caseworkers are apparently "incapable of doing their job properly" based on the experiences posted by some of the forum members previously...

Applied for permanent residences on the 23rd of March after retaining my right. Application refused on the 26th of August with right to appeal. Reason for refusal is that the case worker states that I didn't provide enough evidence that my ex spouse was actively exercising his treaty right as self employed. I sent photocopies of all d original documents that I had previously sent during my retention of right application.

My question is shall I go ahead with the appeal or submit a fresh application with as much documents as possible with regards to my ex self employment. How long does appeal take?

Thank you

Forza_RC wrote:

Arequipa1 wrote:Hi,

I am new to this forum, it is good to know that I am not the only one waiting for such a long time.

I posted my application on the 25th March for the EEA PR as family member (surinder singh route), letter of application received on the 1st April, £55 fee taken on the 2nd April, received my COA on the 9th April and received an email on the 10th of April.

I applied before the biometrics were introduced and i assume this is the reason of delay.

Hopefully i will get the PR soon.

Hi Arequipa1, any updates from your side? I applied for my PR 5 days after you applied apparently. I'm still waiting. No news from HO yet.

Hi,
No news yet, I am also still waiting

missy4real wrote:Applied for permanent residences on the 23rd of March after retaining my right. Application refused on the 26th of August with right to appeal. Reason for refusal is that the case worker states that I didn't provide enough evidence that my ex spouse was actively exercising his treaty right as self employed. I sent photocopies of all d original documents that I had previously sent during my retention of right application.

My question is shall I go ahead with the appeal or submit a fresh application with as much documents as possible with regards to my ex self employment. How long does appeal take?

Thank you

What documents had u submitted for your ror and for Pr?
So we can advice you whether appeal or re apply.

Missy4real,
Is your ror still valid? How many years did you have left on your ror before you applied for PR? Did they cancel your ror after refusing your PR?

[quote="Nyamebeye"]Missy4real,
Is your ror still valid? How many years did you have left on your ror before you applied for PR? Did they cancel your ror after refusing your PR?[/quote]


Thank you Nyamebeye for ur reply, my ror is still valid for another four years. It was not cancelled.

[quote="Indianlonly"][quote="missy4real"]Applied for permanent residences on the 23rd of March after retaining my right. Application refused on the 26th of August with right to appeal. Reason for refusal is that the case worker states that I didn't provide enough evidence that my ex spouse was actively exercising his treaty right as self employed. I sent photocopies of all d original documents that I had previously sent during my retention of right application.

My question is shall I go ahead with the appeal or submit a fresh application with as much documents as possible with regards to my ex self employment. How long does appeal take?

Thank you[/quote]

What documents had u submitted for your ror and for Pr?
So we can advice you whether appeal or re apply.[/quote]

I submitted all the required documents of my ex spouse up until the date of divorce and my documents after divorce until wen I applied. Although for d permanent residence only sent photocopies.

With self employment it can be very tricky to get all the docs they are looking for especially when its ror to PR. If you feel there were missing docs, send them now for a reconsideration as the refusal is still fresh. You can still go ahead and appeal so you don't lose that opportunity. You can withdraw appeal at any time if things work out through the reconsideration or even re-application.

Just out of interest. For ROR to PR, did you have to send your ex's passport or ID in PR application?

missy4real wrote:

Indianlonly wrote:

missy4real wrote:Applied for permanent residences on the 23rd of March after retaining my right. Application refused on the 26th of August with right to appeal. Reason for refusal is that the case worker states that I didn't provide enough evidence that my ex spouse was actively exercising his treaty right as self employed. I sent photocopies of all d original documents that I had previously sent during my retention of right application.

My question is shall I go ahead with the appeal or submit a fresh application with as much documents as possible with regards to my ex self employment. How long does appeal take?

Thank you

What documents had u submitted for your ror and for Pr?
So we can advice you whether appeal or re apply.

I submitted all the required documents of my ex spouse up until the date of divorce and my documents after divorce until wen I applied. Although for d permanent residence only sent photocopies.

Have u applied with photocopies without the originals?
You Must always send the originals maybe thats why they refused your application.
You can apply again with originals or appeal if you don't have the originals.

Nyamebeye wrote:With self employment it can be very tricky to get all the docs they are looking for especially when its ror to PR. If you feel there were missing docs, send them now for a reconsideration as the refusal is still fresh. You can still go ahead and appeal so you don't lose that opportunity. You can withdraw appeal at any time if things work out through the reconsideration or even re-application.

Just out of interest. For ROR to PR, did you have to send your ex's passport or ID in PR application?

For ror no need to send your ex passport or ID

Indianlonly wrote:

Nyamebeye wrote:With self employment it can be very tricky to get all the docs they are looking for especially when its ror to PR. If you feel there were missing docs, send them now for a reconsideration as the refusal is still fresh. You can still go ahead and appeal so you don't lose that opportunity. You can withdraw appeal at any time if things work out through the reconsideration or even re-application.

Just out of interest. For ROR to PR, did you have to send your ex's passport or ID in PR application?

For ror no need to send your ex passport or ID

Hi Indianlonly

I have applied on 08/01/2015 for eea3 and eea4.

refused on 22/05/2015 because we did not provide sufficient self employed income documents, we send some invoices but not all, we appealed and hearing date is 28/01/2016.

my question is it important that me (non eea) and wife (eea) must appeared in first tier tribunal or only a barrister/lawyer can represent us there?

Thanks
Akz

akz wrote:

Indianlonly wrote:

Nyamebeye wrote:With self employment it can be very tricky to get all the docs they are looking for especially when its ror to PR. If you feel there were missing docs, send them now for a reconsideration as the refusal is still fresh. You can still go ahead and appeal so you don't lose that opportunity. You can withdraw appeal at any time if things work out through the reconsideration or even re-application.

Just out of interest. For ROR to PR, did you have to send your ex's passport or ID in PR application?

For ror no need to send your ex passport or ID

Hi Indianlonly

I have applied on 08/01/2015 for eea3 and eea4.

refused on 22/05/2015 because we did not provide sufficient self employed income documents, we send some invoices but not all, we appealed and hearing date is 28/01/2016.

my question is it important that me (non eea) and wife (eea) must appeared in first tier tribunal or only a barrister/lawyer can represent us there?

Thanks
Akz

Hi AKZ, the hearing date for your appeal is still 5 months away, wouldn't it be better if you just re-apply with the missing information they need? Can you tell us a bit more of your case, it looks like the HO are refusing a lot of applications, 30%. When HO refused your application did you still have valid Residence Card? if your RC is expired can you apply for a RC card while waiting for the court hearing for your PR card? In case you reapply for PR card with extra documents and they grant it to you then you can simply cancel the appeal. Can you tell us which documents you have submitted ?

Indianlonly wrote:
Hi AKZ, the hearing date for your appeal is still 5 months away, wouldn't it be better if you just re-apply with the missing information they need? Can you tell us a bit more of your case, it looks like the HO are refusing a lot of applications, 30%. When HO refused your application did you still have valid Residence Card? if your RC is expired can you apply for a RC card while waiting for the court hearing for your PR card? In case you reapply for PR card with extra documents and they grant it to you then you can simply cancel the appeal. Can you tell us which documents you have submitted ?

Thanks Indianlonly


My solicitor did not send all the invoices she was thinking don need i think 4 or 5 missing. today my solicitor advised to go for appeal and same for RC, for RC my wife is working for a company and will work 31 hour/week and earn around 1100/m, in same time i already forward appeal by my solicitor. and hearing date is 28/1/16.

we can apply for PR unless we withdraw appeal or after hearing date we can apply.

About our earning £8742 in 42 month, not 60 month as 9 month maternity leave for my son and 9 months Maternity leave for my another baby 9 months.

break down is under:
2009 - 2010:
27-02-2010 => £100
10-03-2010 => £100
30-03-2010 => £300
Total = £500

Maternity leave from 27/03/2010 - 25/12/10

2010 - 2011:
10-04-2010 => £270
28-04-2010 => £340
27-01-2011 => £86
11-03-2011 => £130
03-04-2011 => £150
Total = £976

2011 - 2012:
26-04-2011 => £20
28-05-2011 => £40
04-06-2011 => £40
07-08-2011 => £515
22-11-2011 => £65
28-01-2012 => £515
31-01-2012 => £65
29-02-2012 => £65
31-03-2012 => £65
Total = £1390

2012 -2013:
21-04-2012 => 104
02-07-2012 => £416
22-08-2012 => £520
12-11-2012 => £750
6 April 2012 to 5 April 2013 £65 each month => 780
Total = £2870


2013 - 2014
total: £2167
Maternity leave from 01/01/2014 ---11/10/14

2014 -2015 (from oct 2014 - Dec 2014, as we applied in Jan 2015
£650
£195
total: £845

it all together £8742

All the amount were received as cash, cheque and through banked transfer were banked in the personal bank account with invoice ref no. Most of the payment were received as cash which banked.

the tax return show all the above figures as well for each years from 2010 - 2014.

The same minimum test as a Home office need for PR applied by local council and they said work is Gen and effective all the five years and we get HB because of this earning.

thanks
akz

Good morning everyone,

Are there any other forum members out there applied for PR in March and still waiting? I still have not heard anything from HO (applied for PR late March as a non-EU citizen married to an EU citizen).

Hope to hear the good news this week!

Indianlonly wrote:

missy4real wrote:Applied for permanent residences on the 23rd of March after retaining my right. Application refused on the 26th of August with right to appeal. Reason for refusal is that the case worker states that I didn't provide enough evidence that my ex spouse was actively exercising his treaty right as self employed. I sent photocopies of all d original documents that I had previously sent during my retention of right application.

My question is shall I go ahead with the appeal or submit a fresh application with as much documents as possible with regards to my ex self employment. How long does appeal take?

Thank you

What documents had u submitted for your ror and for Pr?
So we can advice you whether appeal or re apply.

Hi there i need to apply PR . I have ror after divorce . Can u
Just tell me i what date do i need to apply ? Is it 5 years after marriage date ? Or 5 years after ist visa.s date?

I just need to ask what date can i apply my pr as i have ror after getting divorce from eu national .. So is it after 5 years of date of marriage or my ist 5 years visa ? Thanks

5years of date of marriage. Unless you want to wait until 5years of date of your first residence card. Its really up to you.

akz wrote:

Indianlonly wrote:
Hi AKZ, the hearing date for your appeal is still 5 months away, wouldn't it be better if you just re-apply with the missing information they need? Can you tell us a bit more of your case, it looks like the HO are refusing a lot of applications, 30%. When HO refused your application did you still have valid Residence Card? if your RC is expired can you apply for a RC card while waiting for the court hearing for your PR card? In case you reapply for PR card with extra documents and they grant it to you then you can simply cancel the appeal. Can you tell us which documents you have submitted ?

Thanks Indianlonly


My solicitor did not send all the invoices she was thinking don need i think 4 or 5 missing. today my solicitor advised to go for appeal and same for RC, for RC my wife is working for a company and will work 31 hour/week and earn around 1100/m, in same time i already forward appeal by my solicitor. and hearing date is 28/1/16.

we can apply for PR unless we withdraw appeal or after hearing date we can apply.

About our earning £8742 in 42 month, not 60 month as 9 month maternity leave for my son and 9 months Maternity leave for my another baby 9 months.

break down is under:
2009 - 2010:
27-02-2010 => £100
10-03-2010 => £100
30-03-2010 => £300
Total = £500

Maternity leave from 27/03/2010 - 25/12/10

2010 - 2011:
10-04-2010 => £270
28-04-2010 => £340
27-01-2011 => £86
11-03-2011 => £130
03-04-2011 => £150
Total = £976

2011 - 2012:
26-04-2011 => £20
28-05-2011 => £40
04-06-2011 => £40
07-08-2011 => £515
22-11-2011 => £65
28-01-2012 => £515
31-01-2012 => £65
29-02-2012 => £65
31-03-2012 => £65
Total = £1390

2012 -2013:
21-04-2012 => 104
02-07-2012 => £416
22-08-2012 => £520
12-11-2012 => £750
6 April 2012 to 5 April 2013 £65 each month => 780
Total = £2870


2013 - 2014
total: £2167
Maternity leave from 01/01/2014 ---11/10/14

2014 -2015 (from oct 2014 - Dec 2014, as we applied in Jan 2015
£650
£195
total: £845

it all together £8742

All the amount were received as cash, cheque and through banked transfer were banked in the personal bank account with invoice ref no. Most of the payment were received as cash which banked.

the tax return show all the above figures as well for each years from 2010 - 2014.

The same minimum test as a Home office need for PR applied by local council and they said work is Gen and effective all the five years and we get HB because of this earning.

thanks
akz

Hi akz

HO couldn't have refused ur application because you didn't provide "all" invoices. There is no such requirement to provide all invoices. Some invoices to customers can be provided to show the business is genuine.

Looking at the figures u stated above. It lookes like the issue lies with the amount of income your sponsor receives from the self employment . It is below the £150/week threshold. It might be worth ensuring that you are addressing the actual problem

Hi ,
I am a cypriot (EEA) citizen and I have been living in the UK since 2010.
I wish to apply for permanent residence at the end of this month

My situation is the following
Student 2010 to 2011
Full time work from 2011 to today . (no gaps)
In a relationship with non EEA citizen since 2011
started living together in 2012
Married in 2014
Applied for my husbands EEA permit in July 2014 and got it in August 2014

I have two question

a)Regarding the student period. I had an EEA health card when I came to UK but I can not find it anywhere(never used nhs during that time ). How can I prove to them that i had it ? and is it necessary ? Cyprus is also in common wealth countries so i am not sure if its necessary .

b) can we apply for my husbands permanent residence July next year ? ( married to years / in a serious relationship for 3 years? ) or do you have to be married for the full 5 years period.

Thanks for your help

It's pretty quiet this week. Any good news from HO this week?
Anyone received their PR last couple of weeks?

Anybody here who got PR after retain rights after dicorce?

nikicibaba wrote:

Hi All, (updates)

My wife (EEA national) sent EEA PR application, she is been in UK since 2009, and working full time since Jan 2010.

Time line
App sent: 4th Aug
received: 5th Aug (register delivery)
Money taken: 7th Aug
Email acknowledgment received: 13th Aug
COA: never received
PR: Received today 02/09/15 dated 28/08/15


Hope Forza and all other members waiting receive their PR shortly.

nikicibaba wrote:nikicibaba wrote:

Hi All, (updates)

My wife (EEA national) sent EEA PR application, she is been in UK since 2009, and working full time since Jan 2010.

Time line
App sent: 4th Aug
received: 5th Aug (register delivery)
Money taken: 7th Aug
Email acknowledgment received: 13th Aug
COA: never received
PR: Received today 02/09/15 dated 28/08/15


Hope Forza and all other members waiting receive their PR shortly.

The procedure governing EEA PR are slightly different from none EEA .

For EEA, according to law, PR must be issued ASAP.

nikicibaba wrote:nikicibaba wrote:

Hi All, (updates)

My wife (EEA national) sent EEA PR application, she is been in UK since 2009, and working full time since Jan 2010.

Time line
App sent: 4th Aug
received: 5th Aug (register delivery)
Money taken: 7th Aug
Email acknowledgment received: 13th Aug
COA: never received
PR: Received today 02/09/15 dated 28/08/15

Hope Forza and all other members waiting receive their PR shortly.

Hello nikicibaba, thanks for sharing your wife's timeline with us and a very big Congratulations

Wow, this is the fastest PR processing timeline (EEA route) I have read on this forum I think!
It's much longer for non-EU citizens - for example I have been waiting for my PR since March, over 5 months now
So fingers crossed!

IvIalik wrote:Anybody here who got PR after retain rights after dicorce?

Hello IvIalik, I think there are members on this forum who received their PR after retain rights after divorce. Have you made your application already?