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August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by tomatoe » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:49 pm

tomatoe wrote:
tomatoe wrote:Application for myself

Eligibility criteria: UKM
Language criteria met (UK degree, exempt countries, PBS used documents, NARIC, or B1 test): Not applicable
Current nationality: Spanish
Method of application (NCS/Postal/Solicitor etc): Postal
Council name if NCS used:
Date of application: 26/07/15
Payment method CC/DC, Personal cheque, Bankers cheque etc: CC
Date of receipt by UKBA: 03/08/15
Date of debit or clearance of fees: 11/08/15
Date of acknowledgment:
Date of receipt by Biometric info:13/10/15
Date of Submission of Biometric info: 28/10/15
Date approval received:
Date of ceremony:

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by docitduo » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:13 pm

Eligibility criteria: Section 6(2)
Language criteria met: Degree, LITUK
Nationality: Indian
Method of application: NCS (Hatfield)
Date application submitted: 13/08/2015
Payment method: Credit Card
Date application received by HO: 14/08/2015
Date money gone off account: 25/08/2015
Date acknowledgement received : 28/08/2015 (dated 25/08/2015)
Date biometrics letter received: 29/08/2015 (dated 25/08/2015)
Biometrics done: 29/08/2015
Receipt of approval letter: 30/10/2015 (dated 23/10/2015)
Date of ceremony : 16/11/2015


Acknowledgement letter was issued with "first name" only. The biometric enrollment letter, however, was issued with "full name".

Had applied through NCS under Hertfordshire County Council as they had appointments readily available. The approval letter lists Hertfordshire County Council as the "local council" for the ceremony - even though the person resides in Buckinghamshire!!
Some caseworkers are indeed nutters ....

T33na
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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by T33na » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:32 pm

Application of spouse
Eligibility criteria: Spouse of Tier1. 5year+1 year ILR
Language criteria met: ILETS
Nationality: Pakistani
Method of application: NCS ( Wandsworth)
Date of application: 01/08/2015
Payment method: debit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 03/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 18/08/2015
Date money gone off account: 13/08/2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics:17/08/2015
Biometrics done: 19/08/2015
Date of approval : 30/10/2015 (letter dated 22/10/2015)
Date of ceremony : 01/12/2015
Date applied for passports :
Date passports received :
Finally got the famous brown envelope today :) Thank you all for helping and guiding through the process.
Best of luck to all waiting

Azaak
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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by Azaak » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:51 pm

Azaak wrote:
Azaak wrote:
Azaak wrote:Application of Myself
Eligibility criteria: Tier 1, 5 year + 1 year ILR
Language criteria met: UK Degree + Life in the UK test
Nationality: Pakistani
Method of application: NCS ( Barking & Dagenham)
Date of application: 17/08/2015
Payment method: Debit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 19/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 01/09/2015 (via email) 05-09-2015 by Post Dated: 28/08/2015
Date money gone off account: 02-09-2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics: received on 07/09/2015 dated: 28/08/2015
Biometrics done: 09/09/2015
Date of approval :letter received on 02/11/2015 Dated: 20/10/2015
Date of ceremony :waiting
Date applied for passports :waiting
Date passports received: waiting

Finally received my approval letter today. It was dated 20th October 2015. Thanks Everone for the help and Good luck for all waiting..

doconner
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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by doconner » Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:56 am

doconner wrote:
doconner wrote:Eligibility criteria: Tier 1: 5 Years + 1 year ILR
Language criteria met: Life in the UK, English Majority Country
Current nationality: USA
Number of Applicants: 1
Method of application: NCS
Council name if NCS used: Merton
Date of application: 11/08/2015
Payment method: Debit Card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 13/08/2015
Date of debit or clearance of fees: 24/08/2015
Date on acknowledgement letter: 24/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement received: 27/08/2015
Date on Biometric letter: 24/08/2015
Date of Biometric letter received: 05/09/2015
Date of Biometric Submission: 05/09/2015
Date on approval letter: 12/10/2015
Date approval letter received: 16/10/2015
Date of ceremony: 03/11/2015
Date applied for passports:
Date passports received:

Updated with ceremony date.

Final task.. passports

Duane-O

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by hi888 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:41 am

Finally, I got my famous brown envelope !

Below is my timeline:

Eligibility criteria: Spouse visa of PR + 5.5 years ILR
Language criteria met: Degree Certificate + Life in UK
Nationality: China
Method of application: NCS ( Cambridge)
Date of application: 04/08/2015
Payment method: Credit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 05/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 14/08/2015
Date money gone off account: can't remember
Date of letter requesting biometrics:19/08/2015
Biometrics done: 20/08/2015
Date of approval received : 06/11/2015 (dated 26Oct 2015)
Date of ceremony : 25/11/2015

My application is very straightforward. Good Luck to all who are still waiting... Never give up.

sanu84
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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by sanu84 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:15 am

Updates
sanu84 wrote:Application for myself
Eligibility criteria: 6 years EEA family member
Language criteria met: LIUK+USA degree
Nationality: Vietnamese
Method of application: NCS (Tower Hamlets)
Date of application: 10/08/2015
Payment method: Credit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 11/08/2015
Date money gone off account: 20/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement by post: 20/08/2015 (received 21/08/2015)
Date of acknowledgement by email: 25/08/2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics: 24/08/2015 (received 27/8/2015)
Biometrics done: 29/08/2015
Date of approval: 20/10/2015 (received 24/10/2015)
Date of ceremony: 18/11/2015
Date applied for passport: waiting
Date passport received: waiting
9/8/09-Arrived in the UK

31/3/10-EEA1&EEA2
1/7/10-RC dated 28/6

1/9/14-EEA3&EEA4
14/11/14-PR dated 9/11

10/8/15-AN
24/10/15-Approval dated 20/10
18/11/15-Ceremony

6/2/16-BP
29/2/16-Approval
14/3/16-Interview
16/3/16-BP dated 14/3/16

Joythornz
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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by Joythornz » Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:37 pm

My Application - UPDATE
Eligibility criteria: Spouse of BC, 3 years + ILR
Language criteria met: GESE Grade 5 (B1Exam Trinity College London)
Method of application: By Post
Date of application: 14/08/2015
Payment method: debit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 17/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 26/08/2015 (letter received 29/08/2015)
Date money gone off account: 27/08/2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics: 26/08/2015 (letter received 29/08/2015)
Biometrics done: 01/09/2015
Date of approval : 07/11/2015 (letter received 10/11/2015)
Date of ceremony : waiting on ceremony invitation letter
Date applied for passports :
Date passports received:

FINALLY! :D I have received my approval letter and documents. I am so relieved that this part of the process is over. I am just waiting on my ceremony letter of invitation then booking it.
This forum has been such a big help. Even this timeline has helped me to be sane in the waiting process as more or less you can see how the processing moves. Keep the faith folks! Your happy day is around the corner. Good luck to all those who are still waiting! :D

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by JaseOnline » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:09 pm

JaseOnline wrote:Eligibility criteria: 5 Years ILR
Language criteria met: Life in the UK, English Majority Country
Current nationality: Australia
Number of Applicants: 1
Method of application: NCS
Council name if NCS used: Southwark
Date of application: 12/08/2015
Payment method: Credit Card
Date of debit or clearance of fees: 29/10/2015
Date of receipt by UKBA: 14/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement: 07/10/2015 (Stating payment form not received)
Date of Biometric Submission: 10/11/2015
Date approval received:
Date of ceremony:
Date applied for passports:
Date passports received:

stacie_achraf06
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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by stacie_achraf06 » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:51 pm

Finally received it :D
thank you very for your help
and good luck 2 everyone who is waiting

Eligibility criteria: Spouse visa of BC + 1 years ILR
Language criteria met: Life in the UK, Preliminary English Test (PET) B1 level
Current nationality: Moroccan
Number of Applicants: 1
Method of application: Postal
Date of application: 26/08/2015
Payment method: Credit Card
Date of clearance fees: 07/09/15
Date of acknowledgement by post: 07/09/15
Date of acknowledgement by email: 08/09/2015
Date on Biometric letter: 07/09/15
Date of Biometric letter received: 11/09/15
Date of Biometric Submission: 13/09/2015
Date on approval letter: 08/11/2015
Date approval letter received: 10/11/15
Date of ceremony: Waiting
Date applied for passports:
Date passports received:

vickzkool
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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by vickzkool » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:53 pm

Applied on 04/08/15
10 yrs + 1 yr ILR
Applied through Ealing NCS
Acknowledgement Received Around - 15/08/15 ( Not sure about the exact date )
Biometrics done on 20/08/15
Date Approval Received - 14/11/15 ( Letter Dated - 04/11/15 )

Thanks to my lord I have received my approval today , was tough at times just waiting for the brown envelope , however the family support kept me sane and also using NCS was the best decision I took as having your passports with you gives u the freedom and don't have to worry endlessly

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by stacie_achraf06 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:25 pm

stacie_achraf06 wrote: UPDATE !!
Finally received it :D
thank you very for your help
and good luck 2 everyone who is waiting

Eligibility criteria: Spouse visa of BC + 1 years ILR
Language criteria met: Life in the UK, Preliminary English Test (PET) B1 level
Current nationality: Moroccan
Number of Applicants: 1
Method of application: Postal
Date of application: 26/08/2015
Payment method: Credit Card
Date of clearance fees: 07/09/15
Date of acknowledgement by post: 07/09/15
Date of acknowledgement by email: 08/09/2015
Date on Biometric letter: 07/09/15
Date of Biometric letter received: 11/09/15
Date of Biometric Submission: 13/09/2015
Date on approval letter: 08/11/2015
Date approval letter received: 10/11/15
Date of ceremony: 17/11/15
Date applied for passports:
Date passports received:

chentash16
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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by chentash16 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:46 pm

balmoori wrote:Eligibility criteria: Tier 1 5 Years + 1.3 yr ILR
Language criteria met: LIUK and Degree Certificate
Method of application: NCS Glasgow
Date of application: 09/09/2015
Payment method: Debit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 10/09/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 26/09/2015
Date money gone off account: 22/09/2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics: 26/09/2015(dated 22/09/2015)
Biometrics done: 02/10/2015
Date of Decision : dated 08/11/2015(received 14/11/2015).
Date of ceremony if applicable: 15/12/2015
Date applied for passport:
Date passports received:

Congratulations!!!
I was wondering, did you make your application in September? If so may you kindly update on September timeline as this will be very helpful and hopeful for September applicants. Thank you.

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by Team-Squirrel » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:44 pm

i received the approval letter today! (16.11.2015)
Good luck to all August applicants!
Team-Squirrel wrote:The forum has been helpful for me. So, I am sharing my info. good luck to all!

Eligibility criteria: 5 Years
Language criteria met: Life in the UK, degree in the UK
Number of Applicants: 1
Method of application: Solicitor in London
Date of application: 20/08/2015
Payment method: Debit Card
Date of debit or clearance of fees: 27/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement: 02/09/2015 (received on 07/09/2015)
Date of Biometric Submission: 14/09/2015
Date approval received: 16.11.2015
Date of ceremony: waiting
Date applied for passports: waiting
Date passports received:waiting

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by Joythornz » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:20 pm

My Application - UPDATE
Eligibility criteria: Spouse of BC, 3 years + ILR
Language criteria met: GESE Grade 5 (B1Exam Trinity College London)
Method of application: By Post
Date of application: 14/08/2015
Payment method: debit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 17/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 26/08/2015 (letter received 29/08/2015)
Date money gone off account: 27/08/2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics: 26/08/2015 (letter received 29/08/2015)
Biometrics done: 01/09/2015
Date of approval : 07/11/2015 (letter received 10/11/2015)
Date of ceremony : 15/12/2015
Date applied for passports :
Date passports received:

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by r3v » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:22 pm

My wifes naturalisation application timelines:

Eligibility criteria: Spouse of BC, 3 years + ILR
Language criteria met: IELTS
Method of application: NCS Wandsworth
Date of application: 29/08/2015(bank holiday weekend)
Payment method: credit card
Date money gone off account: 12/09/2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics: 18/09/2015
Biometrics done: 18/09/2015
Date of approval : 15/11/2015 (letter received 18/11/2015)
Date of ceremony :
Date applied for passports :
Date passports received:

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by saqibs » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:17 pm

Thanks for everyone for your help. My wife got Citizenship application approved.

Application of Spouse
Eligibility criteria: Spouse of Tier 1 G 3+1 year ILR
Language criteria met: LITUK+B1
Nationality: Pakistani
Method of application: NCS (Bracknell)
Date of application: 04/08/2015
Payment method: Credit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 05/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 14/08/2015 letter received 17/08/2015
Date money gone off account: 14/08/2015
Date of letter requesting Biometrics: 18/08/2015
Biometrics done: 20/08/2015
Date of approval : 27/10/2015 - letter received 05/11/2015
Date of ceremony : 16/12/2015
Date applied for passports :
Date passports received

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by leonya2015 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:24 pm

Eligibility criteria: Tier-1 General 5 years + ILR 1 year
Language criteria met: Life in the UK + UK Masters Degree
Nationality: Russian
Method of application: NCS (Hammersmith & Fulham)
Date of application: 3 Aug 2015
Payment method: Credit card
Date of receipt by HO: 4 Aug 2015
Date of acknowledgement : 12 Aug 2015 (received on 15 Aug 2015 by post)
Date money gone off account: 12 Aug 2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics: 12 Aug 2015 (received on 15 Aug 2015)
Biometrics done: 17 Aug 2015
Date of approval: 21 Nov 2015 (received on 25 Nov 2015)
Date of ceremony:

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by red-sea-angel » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:29 pm

red-sea-angel wrote:Updated
red-sea-angel wrote:Application of spouse

Eligibility criteria: Spouse of BC, 3 years + ILR
Language criteria met: IELTS, LITUK
Nationality: Egyptian
Method of application: NCS (Southampton)
Date application submitted: 26/08/2015
Payment method: Debit Card
Date application received by HO: 27/08/2015
Date money debited from account: 08/09/2015
Date acknowledgement received : 10/09/2015 (dated 07/09/2015)
Date biometrics letter received: 10/09/2015 (dated 07/09/2015)
Biometrics done: 14/09/2015
Date approval received: 18/11/2015 (Letter was dated 10/11/2015)
Date of ceremony : 02/12/2015

Discretion requested due to excessive absences.
Thank you so much to all on the forum; your wealth of knowledge and experience helped immensely and we are very grateful :D
Good luck to all those still waiting!

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by tuliprose » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:35 pm

Hi,

Just want to update my timeline.

Application sent: 4th Aug (10 yrs Long Residency + 1 yr ILR)
Nationality: Pakistani
Biometric enrolled: 15th Aug
Approval: 26th Nov (Dated 20 Nov 2015)
Ceremony Invitation letter: Waiting
Note: I do not work as an Immigration Consultant, but my advice comes from experiences and my opinions are my own.

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by Cbear » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:12 am

Eligibility criteria:Tier 2, 5 year + 1ILR
Language criteria met:
Method of application: Solicitor
Date application submitted: 04/08/2015
Payment method: Debit Card
Date application received by HO:
Date money debited from account: 21/08/2015
Date acknowledgement received : 20/08/2015
Date biometrics letter received: 26/08/2015
Biometrics done: 26/08/2015
Date of approval : 24/11/2015 (received 02/12/2015)
Date of ceremony :

This forum has been extremely helpful and kept me sane - good luck to all those waiting :)

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by Henchmani » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:45 pm

Eligibility criteria: 10 years (long residence) +1 year ILR
Language criteria met: UK Masters degree
Nationality: Pakistani
Method of application: NCS ( Wandsworth)
Date of application: 05/08/2015 (late in evening appointment)
Payment method: Debit Card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 07/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 18/08/2015
Date money gone off account: ----------
Date of letter requesting biometrics:18/08/2015
Biometrics done: 22/08/2015
Date of approval : 03/12/2015 (Letter from Kent county confirming my successful application with ceremony date)
Date of ceremony : 15/01/2016
Date applied for passports :
Date passports received

First of all i would like to thank all of you for sharing your experiences, pain and expertise on the matter. I have been a silent user on this page.
Now my question is i have received a letter from the council as you have noticed in my timeline congratulating me on my successful application and giving me a ceremony date. But I have not received any letter from HO regarding my application and on the letter from my council it says i must bring HO invitation letter as well as council letter with photo ID on ceremony date but i wanna book a private ceremony to just spare my life from HO ASAP.
So what happens next? When does one get a invitation letter from HO? Should i book my private ceremony now or any suggestions would be appreciated as always.

Thanks again

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by NasirNNN » Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:02 pm

UPDATE
Thanks to Almighty My application for citizenship has been approved on 28/11/5 i received letter today 05/12/15.thanks to this lovely forum for useful information and support and i pray all of those who are waiting receive their approval soon keep patience you will get it soon!
Application for myself
Eligibility criteria: 10 Years + 1 year ILR
Language criteria met: LIUK+UK degree
Nationality: Pakistani
Method of application: NCS (Redbridge)
Date of application: 05/08/2015
Payment method: Debit card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 07/08/15
Date of acknowledgement :
Date money gone off account: waiting
Date of letter requesting biometrics: waiting
Biometrics done: waiting
Date of approval: 28/11/15(LETTER RECEIVED 05/12/15
Date of ceremony: Will book next week
Date applied for passport: waiting
Date passport received: waiting

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by Henchmani » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:14 am

UPDATE!!!!
Received my official HO approval letter today.

Eligibility criteria: 10 years (long residence) +1 year ILR
Language criteria met: UK Masters degree
Nationality: Pakistani
Method of application: NCS ( Wandsworth)
Date of application: 05/08/2015 (late in evening appointment)
Payment method: Debit Card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 07/08/2015
Date of acknowledgement : 18/08/2015
Date money gone off account: ----------
Date of letter requesting biometrics:18/08/2015
Biometrics done: 22/08/2015
Date of approval : 05/12/2015 (dated 28/11/2015)
Date of ceremony : 16/12/2015 (Private ceremony)
Date applied for passports :
Date passports received

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Re: August 2015 Naturalization Application TIMELINE ONLY

Post by mamabibi » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:51 am

Myself + Wife
Eligibility criteria: Tier-1 General 5 years + ILR 1 year
Language criteria met: Both Life in the UK + UK Masters Degree
Nationality: Nigerian
Method of application: NCS (Kings Lynn)
Date of application: 19 Aug 2015
Payment method: Credit card
Date of receipt by HO: 21 Aug 2015
Date of acknowledgement : 28 Aug 2015
Date money gone off account: 28 Aug 2015
Date of letter requesting biometrics: 07 Sept 2015
Biometrics done: 21 Sept 2015
Date of approval: 28 Nov 2015 (received on 5 Dec 2015)
Date of ceremony: not yet booked

Good luck to those still waiting. This forum has been really helpful.

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