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Hey, did you receive the reply today?MikeyTier2 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:43 amRefused 45 points non shortage.
Plan B Entrepreneurs visa.
Good luck to everyone for next month
May be after 3-4 months 30 point application may go throughmaticskhadka wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:53 amWhat a disaster, People with 30 points and less are now left with no hope.
Yes at 10:54 this morning.SG_1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:54 amHey, did you receive the reply today?MikeyTier2 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:43 amRefused 45 points non shortage.
Plan B Entrepreneurs visa.
Good luck to everyone for next month
tej_san wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:18 am"If they don't consider these 9 applicants under exceptional case, then all the 409 applicants have to be refused." - How do you know this?mschase wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:08 am"If they don't consider these 9 applicants under exceptional case, then all the 409 applicants have to be refused." - How do you know this?
Having been in this situation since September 2017, a few things to me are clear now:
1) Neither HO nor the Minister of Immigration are interested in addressing this situation as curbing migration and recruiting nationally is their key focus. We can beg, cry, complain all we want but it will all fall under deaf ears. Classic irony is the medical crisis - on one hand they have identified that there is a shortage of doctors and skilled medical recruits yet no action in easing the process of recruiting them internationally.
2) HO has proven to be adamant in making any rule changes or exempting nurses from shortage-occupation list as it would have already been done this month if they wanted. This situation has been ongoing for 5 months so April should have seen some rule changes. This tells me that they want this situation to resolve naturally in the coming months (if it ever does), which of course would be too late for majority of us.
3) Yes we are all selected 'skilled' professionals by our companies/industries in UK yet our situation is of least concern to the government. I would assume a couple more months of this fiasco to continue till it actually becomes a debate in the parliament (again wishful thinking).
4) I'm starting to believe that HO wants employers to become disheartened from this situation, enforcing them to hire locally - which again is something the government really wants.
5) I've realized that we can speculate, calculate and assume all we want but have absolutely no idea of what is happening behind the curtain. A cut-off of atleast 45 this month would have implied positive progress, 46 as neutral, 50 as really bad (most likely the cutoff this month). The backloggers and growing number of applications each month (peak period of hiring) is worrying.
My greatest disappointment, which even @sptula shares, is that few of us applied in Nov with proper RLMT and points well-above the cutoff, yet our application was dragged onto December 2017 where it was officially refused for the first time. My employer's appeal in September 2017 was also ignored (despite being a Tier A sponsor). I can't argue for unfairness but it just goes to show that UK's Tier 2 system is beyond broken.
I wish everyone best of luck with their applications. Time for me to consider other options now as this situation has gone outside my control. My employer has lost confidence too and it would be unrealistic for me to pressure them for reapplication, salary hike, appeal etc.
As I have mentioned, it's either the entire lot has to be approved together or else refused. If 300 certificates are remaining with 409 applicants at the same point band (say 50), even if 100 certificates borrowed from next month (the rule book says each month maximum 100 certificates can be borrowed from next month), it becomes 400 certificates. What to do with remaining 9 applicants, either approve these 9 or refuse all 409 and carry over 300 certificates to next month.
Look at the Dec-17 figures, where 91 certificates were borrowed to accommodate 55 points band.
However, In Jan and Feb the applicants in 45 points band were far more than 115+100 and 201+100 respectively, so the entire lot of 45 point band was refused and the balance certificates (115 and 201) were carried over to next month.
I hope it's now clear to everyone.
My greatest disappointment, which even @sptula shares, is that few of us applied in Nov with proper RLMT and points well-above the cutoff, yet our application was dragged onto December 2017 where it was officially refused for the first time. My employer's appeal in September 2017 was also ignored (despite being a Tier A sponsor). I can't argue for unfairness but it just goes to show that UK's Tier 2 system is beyond broken.
May I know how did your employer appeal? I got to know that appeal process or administrative review is not possible for RCoS, it's only for visa applications. I have a similar situation where in I missed opportunity in October and November due to HO's mistake. We have been highlighting this by writing email to them every month, but I don't get any reply nor they listen or accept their mistake!
The only option for me to get RCoS is if HO accepts their mistake in Oct/Nov where my points were well within cut-off. But, I really don't know how. Appreciate if anyone can help me. Thanks!
Unfortunately, after 3-4 months the number of COSs available will also reduce. I think it is 2200 for April, then 2000 between May and September.sptula wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:58 amMay be after 3-4 months 30 point application may go throughmaticskhadka wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:53 amWhat a disaster, People with 30 points and less are now left with no hope.
Do you have any link to this rule? I couldn't find it anywhere.sptula wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:03 amThere is no way you can appeal on RCOS decision unless you are told your application is rejected for some mistake in the application. Even then they will accept you are right and will consider your application for next month's aloocation...it has to follow same selection criteria of cut-off points
Did anyone with 50 points get a refusal/rejection yet?worldlukie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:13 amIm still waiting on 50 points.
The wait is excruciating.Still waiting at 50.pizzapizza wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:05 pmDid anyone with 50 points get a refusal/rejection yet?worldlukie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:13 amIm still waiting on 50 points.
Congratulations. Is it a normal approval or it states exceptional/out of monthly allocation?JalajArora wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:09 pmApproved with 50 points Non Shortage. RCOS Issued. Thanks guys
Normal Approval onlySG_1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:12 pmCongratulations. Is it a normal approval or it states exceptional/out of monthly allocation?JalajArora wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:09 pmApproved with 50 points Non Shortage. RCOS Issued. Thanks guys
Congratulations JalajArora!! Could you please share what SOC was it applied for?JalajArora wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:13 pmNormal Approval onlySG_1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:12 pmCongratulations. Is it a normal approval or it states exceptional/out of monthly allocation?JalajArora wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:09 pmApproved with 50 points Non Shortage. RCOS Issued. Thanks guys
yes better we all sign up.. expertise can give a right statement and how to approach and where to?canadarox wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:50 pmI think we need to bring this to the attention of the media.
Anyone interested in starting a petition on https://www.change.org/?
Congrats! That's such a long wait - good for you for sticking through. Go enjoy the lovely British Summer!pizzapizza wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:24 pmGuys I just got through. 50 points. non soc. Was stuck since september due to various reasons. Good luck to all, please don't lose hope.
