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June 2018 Restricted COS

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Handetim » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:10 pm

thisB wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:53 pm
Handetim wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:46 pm
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maticskhadka wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:55 pm
I strongly believe there are no updates from HO itself. So , we should wait until next week to get clear picture. Anyways people with 40-45 points might get clear in coming months. But can anyone confirm if minimum points is 21 or 32 to get Rcos ?

Thanks
The typical number of minimum is 21 points but 21 - 30 points are graduate positions. 30 points is the minimum points with appropriate salary for general positions.
Are you sure about it? My salary is 27k. I am not a graduate. My company applies with the guidance of a reputable law firm. I believe they would be warn about the salary?
You must be making £30k a year, unless you are exempt for some reason? Do you have guaranteed bonuses or allowances? Are you on the shortage occupation? Is it PhD?

https://www.gov.uk/tier-2-general/eligibility
No PhD. No Shortage Occupation. I have bonus but I though it is not guaranteed. I’ll check it on Monday. Thanks!

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by abhi_qa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:37 pm

Handetim wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:10 pm
thisB wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:53 pm
Handetim wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:46 pm
thisB wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:17 pm


The typical number of minimum is 21 points but 21 - 30 points are graduate positions. 30 points is the minimum points with appropriate salary for general positions.
Are you sure about it? My salary is 27k. I am not a graduate. My company applies with the guidance of a reputable law firm. I believe they would be warn about the salary?
You must be making £30k a year, unless you are exempt for some reason? Do you have guaranteed bonuses or allowances? Are you on the shortage occupation? Is it PhD?

https://www.gov.uk/tier-2-general/eligibility
No PhD. No Shortage Occupation. I have bonus but I though it is not guaranteed. I’ll check it on Monday. Thanks!
My immigration adviser told that bonuses are not considered for RCOS.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by abhi_qa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:47 pm

commonman wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:30 pm
optimist08 wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:50 pm
Hi guys, the changes will come into effect on 6 July 2018.

Please see link here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chan ... n-rules--2
I am purely speculating here. But why did the government chose 6th July as the implementation date? Does this have to do something with the fact that all applications must be submitted by the 5th of July and they would still consider the old cap rules for July allocation as well? That would mean that July allocation would still see a high points cut off.

Again this is a pure speculation.
All applications submitted by 5th July will be subject to newly revised immigration rules.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Batagin » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:59 pm

Dear all,

Any of you received a refusal with 45´s? I know the colleagues with 55 and 50 are waiting an answer...

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by nwokediy » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:35 pm

It seems that no one has received a refusal yet. This is seeming like a different month... I believe that majority of us may sail through this month.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Batagin » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:50 pm

nwokediy wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:35 pm
It seems that no one has received a refusal yet. This is seeming like a different month... I believe that majority of us may sail through this month.
That´s the point!!! Maybe HO are organizing the scores before inform everybody... After 51 last month I don´t believe in June the score are higher than 55. I want to belive there is a delay in HO to inform everybody.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by aditri » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:29 am

Waiting at @45 here. No refusal yet. But its too early. Last month i received refusal on 18th

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by UKTier2June2018 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am

Any non first timer this month? How many days post meeting did you guys wait for the rejection last month?

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by kiru17 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:28 am

aditri wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:29 am
Waiting at @45 here. No refusal yet. But its too early. Last month i received refusal on 18th
Hi,
Same here too. 45 non SOL, non NHS..
May I know if your employer Informed you about the refusal for last month.. Did they receive email or is the status in sms portal reflected as refused. Please throw some light, my employer does not inform me on any info.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by aditri » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:11 pm

kiru17 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:28 am
aditri wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:29 am
Waiting at @45 here. No refusal yet. But its too early. Last month i received refusal on 18th
Hi,
Same here too. 45 non SOL, non NHS..
May I know if your employer Informed you about the refusal for last month.. Did they receive email or is the status in sms portal reflected as refused. Please throw some light, my employer does not inform me on any info.
Yes, i am in constant touch with my employer. Last month he replied as soon as he received refusal.
In my opinion its best to ask politely and show that you haven't goven up yet.
Works for me at least

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Dauk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:28 pm

UKTier2June2018 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
Any non first timer this month? How many days post meeting did you guys wait for the rejection last month?
Mid month. About a week after the meeting it seems most of the letters go out now a days. You can of course go back and see for yourself.

uk-tier-2-employer-sponsored-visas/apri ... l#p1625924

uk-tier-2-employer-sponsored-visas/may- ... 9-140.html

Also
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ponsorship
Seems not to get updated until after all the letters go out so you can see the dates it's finished each month there.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by optimist08 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:48 pm

Hi guys, I did some research on this matter with regard to the implementation of the changes made by the Home Office yesterday.

As pe the official statement of changes made by the Home Office, the relevant paragraph read this-

"The changes to Part 7 set out in paragraph 7.2, to Part 8 set out in paragraphs 8.1 and 8.2, to Part 11 set out in paragraph 11.1, to Appendix A set out in paragraphs A14 to A17 and A21 to A25, to Appendix ECAA set out in paragraph ECAA1., to Appendix FM set out in paragraphs FM1. to FM4. and to Appendix FM-SE set out in paragraphs FM-SE1. and FM-SE2. of this statement shall take effect from 6 July 2018 and will apply to all decisions made on or after that date.

The other changes set out in this statement shall take effect on 6 July 2018. However, in relation to those changes, if an application has been made for entry clearance or leave to enter or remain before 6 July 2018, the application will be decided in accordance with the Immigration Rules in force on 5 July 2018.
"

Doesn't the underlined part mean that the application made in June as well, i.e. till June 5, 2018 will also be considered as per the new rules?

Please correct me if my interpretation is wrong, but according to me the doctors and nurses will be exempted from this month itself!!

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by optimist08 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:58 pm

UKTier2June2018 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
Any non first timer this month? How many days post meeting did you guys wait for the rejection last month?

Ya I have got refused for a total of 6 times till now! :P

Usually, the refusal was always notified by 19th of the month.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:56 pm

optimist08 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:48 pm
Hi guys, I did some research on this matter with regard to the implementation of the changes made by the Home Office yesterday.

As pe the official statement of changes made by the Home Office, the relevant paragraph read this-

"The changes to Part 7 set out in paragraph 7.2, to Part 8 set out in paragraphs 8.1 and 8.2, to Part 11 set out in paragraph 11.1, to Appendix A set out in paragraphs A14 to A17 and A21 to A25, to Appendix ECAA set out in paragraph ECAA1., to Appendix FM set out in paragraphs FM1. to FM4. and to Appendix FM-SE set out in paragraphs FM-SE1. and FM-SE2. of this statement shall take effect from 6 July 2018 and will apply to all decisions made on or after that date.

The other changes set out in this statement shall take effect on 6 July 2018. However, in relation to those changes, if an application has been made for entry clearance or leave to enter or remain before 6 July 2018, the application will be decided in accordance with the Immigration Rules in force on 5 July 2018.
"

Doesn't the underlined part mean that the application made in June as well, i.e. till June 5, 2018 will also be considered as per the new rules?

Please correct me if my interpretation is wrong, but according to me the doctors and nurses will be exempted from this month itself!!
No that is not what it means. All applications up to 5th July are under the current rules not the new rule change from 6th July.
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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by optimist08 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:06 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:56 pm
optimist08 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:48 pm
Hi guys, I did some research on this matter with regard to the implementation of the changes made by the Home Office yesterday.

As pe the official statement of changes made by the Home Office, the relevant paragraph read this-

"The changes to Part 7 set out in paragraph 7.2, to Part 8 set out in paragraphs 8.1 and 8.2, to Part 11 set out in paragraph 11.1, to Appendix A set out in paragraphs A14 to A17 and A21 to A25, to Appendix ECAA set out in paragraph ECAA1., to Appendix FM set out in paragraphs FM1. to FM4. and to Appendix FM-SE set out in paragraphs FM-SE1. and FM-SE2. of this statement shall take effect from 6 July 2018 and will apply to all decisions made on or after that date.

The other changes set out in this statement shall take effect on 6 July 2018. However, in relation to those changes, if an application has been made for entry clearance or leave to enter or remain before 6 July 2018, the application will be decided in accordance with the Immigration Rules in force on 5 July 2018.
"

Doesn't the underlined part mean that the application made in June as well, i.e. till June 5, 2018 will also be considered as per the new rules?

Please correct me if my interpretation is wrong, but according to me the doctors and nurses will be exempted from this month itself!!
No that is not what it means. All applications up to 5th July are under the current rules not the new rule change from 6th July.
Okay but those are applications for leave to remain or entry clearance, wouldn't the first paragraph be applicable for CoS, considering the exemption to doctors and nurses is covered by Paragraph A17 which is included in the changes mentioned in the first paragraph. and thus a decision made after 6th july (which is usually made on 11th of the month for COS) be subject to the new rules?

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:09 pm

optimist08 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:06 pm
CR001 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:56 pm
optimist08 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:48 pm
Hi guys, I did some research on this matter with regard to the implementation of the changes made by the Home Office yesterday.

As pe the official statement of changes made by the Home Office, the relevant paragraph read this-

"The changes to Part 7 set out in paragraph 7.2, to Part 8 set out in paragraphs 8.1 and 8.2, to Part 11 set out in paragraph 11.1, to Appendix A set out in paragraphs A14 to A17 and A21 to A25, to Appendix ECAA set out in paragraph ECAA1., to Appendix FM set out in paragraphs FM1. to FM4. and to Appendix FM-SE set out in paragraphs FM-SE1. and FM-SE2. of this statement shall take effect from 6 July 2018 and will apply to all decisions made on or after that date.

The other changes set out in this statement shall take effect on 6 July 2018. However, in relation to those changes, if an application has been made for entry clearance or leave to enter or remain before 6 July 2018, the application will be decided in accordance with the Immigration Rules in force on 5 July 2018.
"

Doesn't the underlined part mean that the application made in June as well, i.e. till June 5, 2018 will also be considered as per the new rules?

Please correct me if my interpretation is wrong, but according to me the doctors and nurses will be exempted from this month itself!!
No that is not what it means. All applications up to 5th July are under the current rules not the new rule change from 6th July.
Okay but those are applications for leave to remain or entry clearance, wouldn't the first paragraph be applicable for CoS, considering the exemption to doctors and nurses is covered by Paragraph A17 which is included in the changes mentioned in the first paragraph. and thus a decision made after 6th july (which is usually made on 11th of the month for COS) be subject to the new rules?
You asked about the 'underlined bit'. That is what I responded to.
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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by optimist08 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:11 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:09 pm
optimist08 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:06 pm
CR001 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:56 pm
optimist08 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:48 pm
Hi guys, I did some research on this matter with regard to the implementation of the changes made by the Home Office yesterday.

As pe the official statement of changes made by the Home Office, the relevant paragraph read this-

"The changes to Part 7 set out in paragraph 7.2, to Part 8 set out in paragraphs 8.1 and 8.2, to Part 11 set out in paragraph 11.1, to Appendix A set out in paragraphs A14 to A17 and A21 to A25, to Appendix ECAA set out in paragraph ECAA1., to Appendix FM set out in paragraphs FM1. to FM4. and to Appendix FM-SE set out in paragraphs FM-SE1. and FM-SE2. of this statement shall take effect from 6 July 2018 and will apply to all decisions made on or after that date.

The other changes set out in this statement shall take effect on 6 July 2018. However, in relation to those changes, if an application has been made for entry clearance or leave to enter or remain before 6 July 2018, the application will be decided in accordance with the Immigration Rules in force on 5 July 2018.
"

Doesn't the underlined part mean that the application made in June as well, i.e. till June 5, 2018 will also be considered as per the new rules?

Please correct me if my interpretation is wrong, but according to me the doctors and nurses will be exempted from this month itself!!
No that is not what it means. All applications up to 5th July are under the current rules not the new rule change from 6th July.
Okay but those are applications for leave to remain or entry clearance, wouldn't the first paragraph be applicable for CoS, considering the exemption to doctors and nurses is covered by Paragraph A17 which is included in the changes mentioned in the first paragraph. and thus a decision made after 6th july (which is usually made on 11th of the month for COS) be subject to the new rules?
You asked about the 'underlined bit'. That is what I responded to.
Thats right, but is my understanding correct for the COS bit then?

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by abhi_qa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:18 pm

optimist08 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:48 pm
Hi guys, I did some research on this matter with regard to the implementation of the changes made by the Home Office yesterday.

As pe the official statement of changes made by the Home Office, the relevant paragraph read this-

"The changes to Part 7 set out in paragraph 7.2, to Part 8 set out in paragraphs 8.1 and 8.2, to Part 11 set out in paragraph 11.1, to Appendix A set out in paragraphs A14 to A17 and A21 to A25, to Appendix ECAA set out in paragraph ECAA1., to Appendix FM set out in paragraphs FM1. to FM4. and to Appendix FM-SE set out in paragraphs FM-SE1. and FM-SE2. of this statement shall take effect from 6 July 2018 and will apply to all decisions made on or after that date.

The other changes set out in this statement shall take effect on 6 July 2018. However, in relation to those changes, if an application has been made for entry clearance or leave to enter or remain before 6 July 2018, the application will be decided in accordance with the Immigration Rules in force on 5 July 2018.
"

Doesn't the underlined part mean that the application made in June as well, i.e. till June 5, 2018 will also be considered as per the new rules?

Please correct me if my interpretation is wrong, but according to me the doctors and nurses will be exempted from this month itself!!
That is applicable to tier 2 applicants not for RCOS.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Melsieau » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:54 pm

Hey guys

I’ve been applying since January and have received a “refusal” each time saying I did not meet the required points. This month I received a letter outlining that my request had been “rejected” because I did not meet the salary requirements.

We have been applying under SOC 1132 for which the minimum salary requirement is 49,700. However, my contract is for 25 hours per week, which at £49,700 for a 39 hour week is £34,000.

My question is: can salaries be pro rated and has the person assessing the case just overlooked the contracted hours?

Any advice would be much appreciated.
Best regards
Melissa

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by UKTier2June2018 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:44 am

Melsieau wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:54 pm
Hey guys

I’ve been applying since January and have received a “refusal” each time saying I did not meet the required points. This month I received a letter outlining that my request had been “rejected” because I did not meet the salary requirements.

We have been applying under SOC 1132 for which the minimum salary requirement is 49,700. However, my contract is for 25 hours per week, which at £49,700 for a 39 hour week is £34,000.

My question is: can salaries be pro rated and has the person assessing the case just overlooked the contracted hours?

Any advice would be much appreciated.
Best regards
Melissa
When did you receive the refusal letter?

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Melsieau » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:46 am

It was a rejection letter and it was on Friday.

I’ve recieved “refusal” letters with no mention of this issue every month since January.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by UKTier2June2018 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:14 am

Melsieau wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:46 am
It was a rejection letter and it was on Friday.

I’ve recieved “refusal” letters with no mention of this issue every month since January.
Did you receive it because of points required?

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Melsieau » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:33 am

Yes.

But unlike the last 5 refusal letters which simply stated I did not meet the points required this one was a letter saying I did not meet the points due to salary not being high enough for the SOC code.

My question is regarding the pro rata nature of doing shorter hours but being paid the full time equivalent.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:31 am

Melsieau wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:33 am
Yes.

But unlike the last 5 refusal letters which simply stated I did not meet the points required this one was a letter saying I did not meet the points due to salary not being high enough for the SOC code.

My question is regarding the pro rata nature of doing shorter hours but being paid the full time equivalent.
My understanding is that you cannot work for less than 30 hours per week on Tier 2 otherwise your job is part time and Tier 2 doesn't apply to part time employment.
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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by UKTier2June2018 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:29 am

Melsieau wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:33 am
Yes.

But unlike the last 5 refusal letters which simply stated I did not meet the points required this one was a letter saying I did not meet the points due to salary not being high enough for the SOC code.

My question is regarding the pro rata nature of doing shorter hours but being paid the full time equivalent.
Did your working hours change this time round or has it always been this case?

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