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Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:50 pm

Dear IB Moderators/Mentors/Advisors,

Please share the updated SOC code link.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Online application query

Post by CR001 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:01 pm

Any reason you cannot search for it yourself??
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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:16 pm

Hi CR001,

Thank you for your reply. I can now able to find the updated one. Earlier, I got confused seeing the archived PDF. Sorry.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:22 pm

Hi CR001,

I've got a question while filling online application.

Section 2. Your home and finances:
Current rate of pay: I'm aware 35500 is the eligible rate for applying ILR.
My question is: As per my salary slip if I calculate my "Total Gross Pay" 2958.33 * 12 = 35,499.96 is coming. Is that be ok to apply?


Thanks in advance.

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Re: Online application query

Post by CR001 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:31 pm

You posted this question already in another new topic, why have you started another thread??

You are 4p short. A member was refused ILR recently for being 60p short.
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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:26 am

Hi CR001,

You posted this question already in another new topic, why have you started another thread??
Yes, I posted on 21/06/2018. I've not got reply. That is why I started another thread.

You are 4p short. A member was refused ILR recently for being 60p short.
Can you give me the solution whether can I apply in confidence or should I wait for my next salary hike and apply later?

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:45 am

Hi CR001,

I'm stressed and confused. Please let me know what is the right way to calculate my annual salary.

When I calculate my monthly gross salary 2958.33*12 = 35,499.96

When I calculate 35,500 / 12 = 2958.33

Which one is correct? Please advice. Thanks,.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Echoes » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:15 pm

Why are you reverse calculating your annual pay? Your actual annual salary should be on your payslip and your P60. You can also download the HMRC app to view your tax record as well as your gross salary.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:25 pm

Hi Echoes,

Thank you for your reply. I'm not able to see the annual salary in my payslip and in P60. When I see in the HMRC app it says

Pay As You Earn

£4553.20(Your PAYE income Tax estimate)

£34,616(Your taxable income estimate)

£11,850(Your tax-free allowance)

1185L(Your tax code)

Can you now tell me the annual salary? Thanks.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Echoes » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:32 pm

Your annual pay is £34,616. Which means you do not meet the salary requirement and your ILR application will most likely be refused. Unless you’ve recently received an increment that HMRC is unaware of.

If you haven’t any bonuses or deductions, that is your actual pay. If you’re still unsure, ask your employer.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:52 pm

Hi Echoes,

I'm more confused now.
My employment offer letter says "You will receive a Total Remuneration package of £35,500.00(GROSS) per."
My employer also said the same.
In my payslip I got below calculations

This period:
Total Gross Pay 2958.33
Gross for Tax 2884.67
Earnings for NI 2955.00
Er Pension 49.11

May I know which one should I consider for calculating my annual salary? Thanks

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Re: Online application query

Post by Echoes » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:11 pm

Why do you have different figures for gross and taxable gross income?

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:18 pm

Echoes, I don't know. My payslip says all this. Too much confusion. I want to know what is the right amount of my annual salary. Please help giving suggestions. Is any number to call HMRC and investigate? Thanks.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Echoes » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:26 pm

You need to have a word with your employer and ask for an explanation. Looks like you’re not paying tax on roughly £1000 of your income per year. You should have a 100% clear understanding of your pay, not only for your ILR application but from an employment perspective as well.

If you are legally receiving some tax free income then it is fine and you can use it to satisfy the income requirement for your ILR application. You must however demonstrate that your total gross income is at least 35500 and your tax affairs are in order.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:40 pm

Echoes many thanks. It's been a year since I joined and I've already filled my appraisal form and discussed about the payrise. My employer said, by this end of June I'll get my payrise and it will be populated in June payslip.

My question is:
1. How soon the payrise will get updated in HMRC system?

2. Can I apply ILR by next month?

Please advice. Thanks.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Echoes » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:30 am

1. I think it depends how your company deals with HMRC. My salary is updated with HMRC a week before I'm actually paid. Keep an eye on your online tax account everyday to see if it is updated before your pay day.

2. If you are making 35500 then yes, you do satisfy the requirement. The only concern is, you're not completely sure what your salary is. Normally the annual amount shown in your personal tax account is your salary. But you might be getting more in reality in case you get any non-taxable benefits, such as childcare vouchers etc. Again, your employer would be in the best position to explain what exactly you're being paid.

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Re: Online application query

Post by CR001 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:45 am

Your payslips should be stating the YTD figures of your pay and tax deductions, it is standard practice. Suggest look at your whole payslip carefully again.
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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:15 am

Dear Echoes, Thank you for your reply. I'll check with my employer.

Dear CR001, Below are the details of YTD figures mentioned in my May Payslip. Can you help me calculating with this figures and tell me how much would be my annual salary? Many thanks in advance.

Total Gross Pay TD 5916.66
Gross for Tax TD 5769.34
Tax Paid TD 758.40
Earnings for NI TD 5910.00
National Insurance TD 541.20
Ee Pension TD 147.32
Er Pension TD 98.22

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:38 pm

Echoes wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:32 pm
Your annual pay is £34,616. Which means you do not meet the salary requirement and your ILR application will most likely be refused. Unless you’ve recently received an increment that HMRC is unaware of.

If you haven’t any bonuses or deductions, that is your actual pay. If you’re still unsure, ask your employer.
Hi Echoes, my employer told me that I've not completed one year. That is the reason I'm getting £34,616 in the HMRC app. I'm not sure whether this is true. Can you confirm is this true?

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:41 pm

Echoes wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:26 pm
You need to have a word with your employer and ask for an explanation. Looks like you’re not paying tax on roughly £1000 of your income per year. You should have a 100% clear understanding of your pay, not only for your ILR application but from an employment perspective as well.

If you are legally receiving some tax free income then it is fine and you can use it to satisfy the income requirement for your ILR application. You must however demonstrate that your total gross income is at least 35500 and your tax affairs are in order.
Hi Echoes, my employer told me that I've enrolled in pension scheme. Is that tax free income? Please advice on this.

You mentioned tax affairs are in order. What is the meaning?

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Re: Online application query

Post by Echoes » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:38 am

That explains it. Pension savings are generally tax free. I don’t see a problem here.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:22 am

Echoes wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:38 am
That explains it. Pension savings are generally tax free. I don’t see a problem here.
Cool. So, is that the reason it showing £34,616 in HMRC app?

Million dollar question is "Annual pay is calculated by multiplying 12 * Total Gross Pay (or) Gross for Tax"??

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Salary Raise not updated

Post by Jack&Jill » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:45 am

Dear Echoes,

I'm 4 pence short for requirements. My employer said 4 pence shouldn't be a problem. Also, he said increasing 4 pence is not a problem. If he increase in June payslip, does he need to inform to HMRC? How soon he need to inform? Does he need to update in SMS? Will it be a problem? Is that possible? Please advice.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Echoes » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:06 am

Your monthly income is calculated based on your annual salary, not the other way around. You need to take the annual figure from the HMRC app and find out how much is going to be paid into your pensions for the whole year. Add them together and you should get your annual pay package. This should match the amount specified in your employment agreement.

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Re: Online application query

Post by Jack&Jill » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:05 pm

Echoes wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:06 am
Your monthly income is calculated based on your annual salary, not the other way around. You need to take the annual figure from the HMRC app and find out how much is going to be paid into your pensions for the whole year. Add them together and you should get your annual pay package. This should match the amount specified in your employment agreement.
Echoes may many thanks for your continuous help.
Annual salary in Employment agreement = £35,500
Annual figure showing on HMRC app = 34,616
Ee Pension every month = £73.66 * 12 = £883.92
So, £34,616 + £883.92 = £35499.92

Not exactly matching £35,500. Is that be OK 1 pence short.? Will it affect? Please advice. Thanks again for your support.

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