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FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by cd20 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:55 pm

So we moved 3 months ago to our new place/city. Do I need to provide 6 together (or 12 separate) proofs of us living together at both addresses?

So for two addresses,
6 together (or 12 separate) proofs?
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12 together (or 24 separate) proofs?

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Re: FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by Casa » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:01 pm

cd20 wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:55 pm
So we moved 3 months ago to our new place/city. Do I need to provide 6 together (or 12 separate) proofs of us living together at both addresses?

So for two addresses,
6 together (or 12 separate) proofs? This one
or
12 together (or 24 separate) proofs?
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Re: FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by cd20 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:03 pm

thanks!

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Re: FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by seagul » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:05 pm

As per common sense as long as at each new address the proof of cohabitation keeps generating then still 6 joint/12 individual/mix n match proofs will be needed. Authorities have no concern whether the couple live at one address or different as long as the 6/12 pieces of cohabitation proofs on similar addresses kept generating.
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Re: FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by jayaprakaash83 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:00 am

Hi cd20, Im just wondering whether you had any issues in going with the option of "6 together (or 12 separate) proofs"

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Re: FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by cd20 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:50 pm

seagul wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:05 pm
As per common sense as long as at each new address the proof of cohabitation keeps generating then still 6 joint/12 individual/mix n match proofs will be needed. Authorities have no concern whether the couple live at one address or different as long as the 6/12 pieces of cohabitation proofs on similar addresses kept generating.

I am about to send this in now. But 2 quick questions:

Both our payslips are generated online and we need to print these. Will these self-printed payslips be acceptable?

Also, if say we have bank statements for both addresses, will they accept 4 bank statements (2 for each of us x 2 addresses) as 4 proof? Or will they only allow bank statement as one set of proof for one address?

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Re: FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by CR001 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:53 pm

Both our payslips are generated online and we need to print these. Will these self-printed payslips be acceptable?
Not on their own no. Online printed payslips must EITHER be stamped and verified by your HR/Payroll OR you must have a letter authenticating them from your employer.
Also, if say we have bank statements for both addresses, will they accept 4 bank statements (2 for each of us x 2 addresses) as 4 proof? Or will they only allow bank statement as one set of proof for one address?
There is NO requirement that the bank statements must be all at one address.
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Re: FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by cd20 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:11 pm

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Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:53 pm
Both our payslips are generated online and we need to print these. Will these self-printed payslips be acceptable?
Not on their own no. Online printed payslips must EITHER be stamped and verified by your HR/Payroll OR you must have a letter authenticating them from your employer.
Also, if say we have bank statements for both addresses, will they accept 4 bank statements (2 for each of us x 2 addresses) as 4 proof? Or will they only allow bank statement as one set of proof for one address?
There is NO requirement that the bank statements must be all at one address.
Thank You!

Regarding payslips, what if we include employment contract to go along with payslips? Wouldn't that authenticate them? Or does the employer specifically need to write that payslips are genuine?

Sorry, just wanted to clarify.

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Re: FLR (M) - Moved address 3 months ago. Need 6 proof of address for each residence?

Post by CR001 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:19 pm

what if we include employment contract to go along with payslips? Wouldn't that authenticate them?
No it does not.
Or does the employer specifically need to write that payslips are genuine?
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Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:34 pm

Hi, I need to renew my spouse's visa soon. But I have 5 months' payslips from recent job which I can get stamped, before that the previous employer I worked-for for 2 years gave me digital payslips too but I cant get them stamped since they werent happy at my moving to another company.

Please advise how I can proceed with this.

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by seagul » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:00 pm

cd20 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:34 pm
Hi, I need to renew my spouse's visa soon. But I have 5 months' payslips from recent job which I can get stamped, before that the previous employer I worked-for for 2 years gave me digital payslips too but I cant get them stamped since they werent happy at my moving to another company.

Please advise how I can proceed with this.
Its always wise to plan ahead especially in immigration matters and in this scenario before someone leaving always make sure either to get original copy of payslips or get stamped the electronically generated ones. Maybe through humble request they (previous employer) might help you or if it is possible to wait one more month so that you don't need to bother old employer.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:04 pm

seagul wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:00 pm
cd20 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:34 pm
Hi, I need to renew my spouse's visa soon. But I have 5 months' payslips from recent job which I can get stamped, before that the previous employer I worked-for for 2 years gave me digital payslips too but I cant get them stamped since they werent happy at my moving to another company.

Please advise how I can proceed with this.
Its always wise to plan ahead especially in immigration matters and in this scenario before someone leaving always make sure either to get original copy of payslips or get stamped the electronically generated ones. Maybe through humble request they (previous employer) might help you or if it is possible to wait one more month so that you don't need to bother old employer.

Yeah i could have been more prudent with this but alas. The deadline is soon so we cant wait another month for another payslip to come through.

We both work so maybe we can use both our payslips?

Also I have savings over 16k which can help too.

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by seagul » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:17 pm

cd20 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:04 pm
seagul wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:00 pm
cd20 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:34 pm
Hi, I need to renew my spouse's visa soon. But I have 5 months' payslips from recent job which I can get stamped, before that the previous employer I worked-for for 2 years gave me digital payslips too but I cant get them stamped since they werent happy at my moving to another company.

Please advise how I can proceed with this.
Its always wise to plan ahead especially in immigration matters and in this scenario before someone leaving always make sure either to get original copy of payslips or get stamped the electronically generated ones. Maybe through humble request they (previous employer) might help you or if it is possible to wait one more month so that you don't need to bother old employer.

Yeah i could have been more prudent with this but alas. The deadline is soon so we cant wait another month for another payslip to come through.

We both work so maybe we can use both our payslips?

Also I have savings over 16k which can help too.
The first £16000 of savings is usually be not counted. If your partner is working then can try under category B by combining her payslips.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:53 pm

srry for bothering u seagul but is there any way we can combine her 3 months payslips and mine 5 months?

I m thinking maybe it doesnt just have to be payslips and i might be able to go to some local tax office to get something stamped for what tax I pad in last 12 months and hence my income.

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by seagul » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:20 am

cd20 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:53 pm
srry for bothering u seagul but is there any way we can combine her 3 months payslips and mine 5 months?

I m thinking maybe it doesnt just have to be payslips and i might be able to go to some local tax office to get something stamped for what tax I pad in last 12 months and hence my income.
yes you can but you have to show your income of last 12 months prior to the date of application for category B. I think easier might be if you include your previous employment payslips. Just to go to your previous employer and request politely to stamp it which I am sure he/she will do, donot shy/afraid.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:12 am

Thanks for the help seagull. Unfortunately, I can't go to my previous employer. Now I work for a 7000-strong company with a HR dept I can go to with requests. Previously, it was a 20-strong company with owner doing the admin work and we didn't part on a good note unfortunately - I had to leave as their practices were becoming questionable and other people had left too and I couldnt even get out a reference from them for my new job. I would go to them if I thought there was a chance of getting them to stamp it.

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:25 am

Also, when you say the first 16k wont count, do u mean I need to have 32k in savings? Because the form clearly says any proof of savings over 16k is required.
Again, I guess I can't combine say 20k savings with 5 months payslips at a salary of nearly 40k. Thats kinda what I was hoping would suffice but guess you're right, these things need to be planned all the way through which I will keep in mind for the next round.

Plus along with 20k savings and 5 months payslips (stamped), I could also include 1 unstamped payslips from previous employment and maybe unstamped P60 for previous employment.

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by seagul » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:00 pm

Even if you have sufficient savings but still second bit of category B you can't meet with savings which is the mandatory income of last 12 months. First bit of category B can be met with sufficient savings.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:31 pm

thank you so much @seagull for helping.

I had a HMRC letter (Your Annual Tax Summary 2016-17) come through the post detailing income and taxes for the past year. That should do it along with 5 stamped payslips.

Do i need to get that HMRC letter stamped too. Its the original that came in the post and not a copy so I reckon it could suffice.

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by seagul » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:42 pm

cd20 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:31 pm
thank you so much @seagull for helping.

I had a HMRC letter (Your Annual Tax Summary 2016-17) come through the post detailing income and taxes for the past year. That should do it along with 5 stamped payslips.

Do i need to get that HMRC letter stamped too. Its the original that came in the post and not a copy so I reckon it could suffice.
NO. But if you have the original p60 (recent) then that one you can add it with your 5 months payslips.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:52 pm

Digital p60 I'm afraid. But that original hmrc letter details out everything from salary to tax paid so should count as proof as its original from a reliable source.

Thanks again for helping @seagull

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:28 pm

Hey @seagull , @others

I need some advise before sending this off now.
Basically, regarding the 5 months payslips with current employer and 3 months' previous payslips with a previous employer thats not providing a letter or stamp on digital payslip.
From my current employer I have everything to go with the 5 months payslips including a proper letter.
I was actually with the previous employer for nearly 3 years but only months of Oct, Nov, Dec are relevant for the 12 months prior to application. The HMRC letter I mentioned is original but it mentions the annual salary between April 2017 and April 2018 but doesn't mention monthly salary for a particular month or period. Hence, I can only pray that along with original bank statements showings salary paid for the three months as well as digital payslips and signed contract of employment will do the trick for that.

But I am still not 100% certain they will accept all of that above regarding the previous employment so I was thinking maybe the following will work:

The visa expires on the 15th October 2018. The application guidelines say that we can only apply within the last 30 days before expiration. I just got to the final few pages of the online form and one stated:
Providing your documents
If you choose Standard Service, you must send your documents within 15 days to the address on your supporting document checklist (provided when you have completed your application payment).
Since I will get my 6th payslip on the 26th October (thats when i usually get my payslip generated), I was thinking maybe it will be a good idea to apply online on the 14th October and then on the 26th send all 6 payslips from current employer via same day delivery!

That could work!

Please advise. :cry:

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by seagul » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:55 am

Documents dated after the date of application won't be considered.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:33 am

and how about if they refuse it and we reapply again after 14 days? The new application would have all 6 payslips.

@seagul - I would also like to make a donation on your behalf to a charity for all the kind help and education you've provided me with. Pls let me know if a charity is close to your heart. For next time, I will be a little more forward-thinking.

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Re: Spouse Visa Extension FLR(M) - Digital Payslips (income proof)

Post by cd20 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:53 am

so continuing from the above post, I have been doing a lot of reading and if she gets her application refused before her visa is due to expire, she has to leave the country before the expiration date and reapply from country of birth. However, if the visa has expired whilst she has been waiting for the decision, then she will have another 14 days to reapply again without leaving the UK. So in her case, as her visa runs out on the 15th October, can we apply online on the 14th October and probably wait a few days for them to make a decision. If the decision is refusal, we will have another 14 days in which to make a new application, and in the 14 days I will get my 6th payslip, which will take my pay from six months to around 20k, and meet all requirements. And this way she wont have to leave the country either.

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