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Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by naveediiqbal » Fri May 15, 2015 10:01 am

Shah05 wrote:@naveediiqbal, u think if you have calculated the period correct than your chances to win the Appeal is very strong, but what I would say to make sure is to take opinion for atleast 3 different solicitors. And if they say your calculation is right than there you go. No need to worry. Also my first refusal was in May 2013, I took 1st hearing in January 14, than HO appealed again my positive decision. And another appeal took place in mid may 14, and just end of April have received the decision. So I mean to say is there are chances of waiting minimum of a year period over all as u have appealed.
@Shah05 Thank you very much for your time, kind words (I really need these) and guidance.

As far as period calculations the Tier 1 Guidance version 11/2014 (this was latest when I applied) para 76 says

"You can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.

and para 78 says

"If you claim for a period of earnings that is more than 12 months, or have not indicated a period for assessment of earnings, we will assess the most recent period of 12 months for which you have provided evidence."

The wordings from refusal letter (application date as per letter is 26 January 2015) says

"You have claimed earnings for the period of 01 November 2013 to 31 October 2014. In your application, you have provided evidence of your previous earnings, as specified in the Appendix A of the Immegrational Rules, from the period 22 October 2013 to 07 November 2014.

The evidence you have provided in the form of wage slips from Employer 1 and Employer 2, and bank statements from Bank A and Bank B.

However, as the evidence you ahve provided covers a period that exceeds the 12 months period permitted, we have only been able to assess those earnings from the period 08 November 2013 to 07 November 2014."


My point of appeal is that the caseworker accepting that I have claimed the 12 months period which was within 15 month immediately before the date of applying. which is exactly as per immigration rule then why they changed the earning period (There is no line in guidance which allows to change the period based on evidence provided.

I have provided employment payslips and bank statements and P45, P60 (all refrerenced to show thew amount and period claimed 1 Nov 2013 to 31 Oct 2014).

No a clue why the caseworker has arrived at a different peiod (which in my view is against the immigration rules).

I have discussed with a solicitor and he drafted the appeal latter / grounds of appeal for me to challange the HO decision. He says its caseworkers mistake going apart from what guidance says.

Let see what wil be the outcome. Due to a caseworker mistake we are ended up stranded in a very difficult situation mentally, can't travel any where and its always back in our mind haunting us that we have a visa refusal which is making our like misrable. Just becuase of someones mistake.

Thanks again for your time and advise.

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by Shah05 » Sun May 17, 2015 5:08 pm

Hi, from your case it I can say it's a straight forward decision will be made. See you don't need to worry, except waiting. See the waiting period is long so first of all just accept that you will have to just wait. And secondly you have fair chances that your case will win. i have kept waiting for decision but it just waste of time. So keep doing your routine when it will come it will come. i have read through your case it seemed straight to me. So don't worry and stay calm.

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by naveediiqbal » Mon May 18, 2015 11:02 am

Shah05 wrote:Hi, from your case it I can say it's a straight forward decision will be made. See you don't need to worry, except waiting. See the waiting period is long so first of all just accept that you will have to just wait. And secondly you have fair chances that your case will win. i have kept waiting for decision but it just waste of time. So keep doing your routine when it will come it will come. i have read through your case it seemed straight to me. So don't worry and stay calm.
Thanks very much mate for your kind words. your response filled more energy in me and I am now feeling more confident about my potential appeal outcome.

I will try to be calm and carry on as you advised. I observed that your waiting time was also very long so you and other in a similar situation will fee the same like I am feeling these days. But hopefully by the help of God we will win our appeal soon. Have a great day.

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by marketing786 » Sat May 30, 2015 12:04 am

My case time line is
Applied September 2013
Refused April 2014
Appeal allowed 2014
Home Office appealed to go UTT
UTT prmission granted.

Letter states that.
1) Section 35(a) of evidential flexibility is still arguable.
2) The conclusion is still arguable which the judge used after the day of hearing.

What do you guys think ? is there any one fasing the same situation ? The hearing day was completely in our hand and HO representative accepted her defeat and asked the judge to send it for reconcideration.

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by Shah05 » Sun May 31, 2015 2:51 pm

Marketing786, what are your rejection points? As they have raised the case to UTT it's better to be careful.

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by marketing786 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:31 pm

Hi SHAH

There were so many points
all were around not submitting business plan market research cv experiance letter etc etc.
contract doest look genuine....
marketing is not been done properly


we proved a procedural mistake before calling for interview a case worker should ask for additional information as per 2013 rule and almost on every single point we justified our stance and business.
HO representative said this case should go for re concideration but judge allowed in our favour and HO challenged the decision...

Now waiting for date to appear in UTT...

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by Shah05 » Sun May 31, 2015 10:42 pm

Well if I see ur case than its in your favour. As there is no place where they have asked specifically market research doc or business plan. Also you have done marketing as per your knowledge so it's been done that's more than enough. Don't worry you will any how win I think.

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by marketing786 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:15 am

Thats a very hard question from now...
Will have to discuss it with a good barrister first to be confident about..
Evidential flexibility is two side knife will have to be very carefull

Thanks for wishes

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by Rajux » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:40 pm

Rajux wrote:Hi HSO or anyone in the Forum...please...
I need your advice.

My appeal was allowed in June 2014 then 2 months later I have received biometric enrollment letter which I have done.
After I haven't heard anything from home office.I called them in September which someone said 'Tribunal is currently in process so wait someone will contact you any news of out come but I called few days later someone told me 'You have to wait I will put an email your case worker who will process your application'.I don't understand this becoz my appeal was allowed in June 2014.I have phone many times to FTT which they said no more challenge in your allowed appeal so you speak to home office they should give your visa.

I have contacted my local MP in November then 3 weeks later I got replay from MP which said 'Our records show HO applied for permission in June but the matter still outstanding so we will inform the Tribunal has made decision.In December My solicitor received a letter from HO which they stated first: The biometric resident permit has been issued' secondly the latter stated: HO have applied for permission to the allowed appeal.
I just want update I got my visa and other documents on April 2015.My appeal was allowed june 2014.after long battle with Home office I received my visa back I really want say thanks My MP he did everything for me.
I have written a letter to Tribunal and FTT has replied me clearly Said 'You appeal was successful in june and the determination copy served to the relevant parties.Tribunal no longer deal issuance of visa so It is HO responsible to grand any short of visa,IF you haven't heart anything from HO in 6 weeks you shouLd contact HO.

so i can confirm HO did not challenge but they are keep saying that HO have challenged.

I am really devastated and being too much stress now so please anyone help some advice what can i do this stage.please ...please ....

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by Shah05 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:46 pm

Weird!! Never heated of. This might be the error. Either HO or tribunal has to sort it out. Not sure just wait for others to reply.

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SETTLEMENT CHILD OVER 18 VISA APPEAL

Post by faizal223 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:58 am

I applied for my wife's and two child settlement
visa on 22nd july 2013 at VFS Chennai .
Date of application : 22nd july 2013
Applied at - VFS , Chennai
Application under process : 26th july 2013
visa refused : 09th july 2014
visa appeal :29th july 2014
hearing date: 12th june 2015
pls some help anychance to won appeal settlement child over 18

this is refusal reason for my wife and my son under 18:
30th october 2013 i have received email from british high commission for under paragraph listed below.i have meet income threshold requirement but i application put on hold.after i have sent further document to bhc chennai
Your applications for entry clearance under paragraph EC-P.1.1 of Appendix FM to the Immigration Rules have been considered. Your applications fall to be refused solely because you do not meet the income threshold requirement under Appendix FM and the related evidential requirements under Appendix FM-SE.
1. The letter from xxxxx company does not confirm what your sponsors designation is within the company nor his gross annual salary
2. The letter from yyyyyy company does not describe your sponsors gross annual salary

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by Mohammad Owais » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:26 am

Shah05 wrote:Weird!! Never heated of. This might be the error. Either HO or tribunal has to sort it out. Not sure just wait for others to reply.
I am facing same kind of problem i had court date on feb2015 judge made decision on durable relation and allowed me appeal on 2nd march 2015 after nearly 4 months wait i contacted my local mp she wrote to ukba on my behalf after 2 weeks she send me email attached with ukba letter that address is not same basically thats my barrister address ,gave me link for update address on www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi and on next paragraph they wrote our specialist appeal challenge the determination whats that mean and what will happen next help i am worried of outcome thanks

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by gee1 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:18 pm

Shah05 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:41 pm
@sad1, I have recieved a letter mentioning,

'this is an acknowledgement reciept on 12th February of an application for a permission to appeal to the upper tribunal.'

You will be informed of the reasult in writing.

That's what I have received.

I hope your case ends here. No choice except waiting.
hi,
also recieved this kind of letter what is the next step to your case
thanks
gee

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Re: Appeal allowed but HO appeal against the decison.

Post by Shah05 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:00 pm

@gee1, it’s been a while for me to that process. But as far as I can recall, if it has been challenged, then either request to UTT will be accepted or rejected. If accepted you will be updated with the grounds and reasonS. And again have to go to court. If UTT is rejects (good news) you have won 1st appeal. So it might take 2-3 weeks to receive another letter.

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