Tier 1 to ILR

I think you are fine with both days. Its not such a great issue that will affect your application in any possible way. Even with the new system people are confused if the application date is actual date or appointment date or the decision making date; CWs know this too.
Expect good and good will come.

LOL!!! But you are, you are!!!
We have all given you our two pence! I’ve said it shouldn’t matter when you apply either 31st or 1st .. the other two say 31st. If ur still not convinced.
Sleep over it a few days. Focus on something else and come back to this later.

aman90 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:21 am

LOL!!! But you are, you are!!!
We have all given you our two pence! I’ve said it shouldn’t matter when you apply either 31st or 1st .. the other two say 31st. If ur still not convinced.
Sleep over it a few days. Focus on something else and come back to this later.

lol thanks for your reply.
I just caught my attention to “before” and if I replace that with “from” so kinda makes sense to apply on 1st. But yes I will go with my gut feeling. Thanks

Meesha wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:15 am

I think you are fine with both days. Its not such a great issue that will affect your application in any possible way. Even with the new system people are confused if the application date is actual date or appointment date or the decision making date; CWs know this too.
Expect good and good will come.

Thanks Meesha

Just to remind you HO needs 52 weeks but a year is 52 weeks+1 day
If you apply on 31of Dec. They will count any job creation for last 12 months , even they don’t count 31st of Dec. You have full 52 weeks from 1st of January to end of 30th of Dec.

Well there you go!!! Now can you please apply on 31st Dec 18!

mohsensari wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:36 am

Just to remind you HO needs 52 weeks but a year is 52 weeks+1 day
If you apply on 31of Dec. They will count any job creation for last 12 months , even they don’t count 31st of Dec. You have full 52 weeks from 1st of January to end of 30th of Dec.

Thanks for your reply. This makes sense!

aman90 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:44 am

Well there you go!!! Now can you please apply on 31st Dec 18!

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 3.0ext.pdf

(Page140 first paragraph)

11/2018 policy guidance still is a copy of 7/2018 ( the footer of each page still says 7/2018) then doesn’t have any information about online application,
I recommend to read the v23 guidance as well.

mohsensari wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:00 pm

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 3.0ext.pdf

(Page140 first paragraph)

11/2018 policy guidance still is a copy of 7/2018 ( the footer of each page still says 7/2018) then doesn’t have any information about online application,
I recommend to read the v23 guidance as well.

Sorry I did not get this first para pg 140. Is this relevant to me or you intended to reply to some other member?

Thanks

Sorry page 105

@mohsensari

Thanks for the page 105:

It says:

“The exception to the above rule is if their current leave was granted less than 12 months ago. In such cases the jobs must have been maintained for at least the 12 months before the date of the current application. This will include the full extension period plus the balance needed to make up the rest of the 12 months from the initial period”

it does NOT have the word “immediate” (they had it previously)

I understand we need minimum of 52 weeks of job creation. So if I apply on 31st and they dont count 31st, although I will have 52 weeks from 1st Jan - 30th Dec, however, I will not have full 12 months, as you said, 12 months are 52 weeks and 1 day.
And the guidance says at least “12 months”

Dear Members,

I know there is no requirement for accounts but we have to send the filling history as part of CAR.

Question: My latest accounts are made upto 31st May 2018 and next are due in 2020.
The CAR shows that date.

Do I need management accounts upto till the day or close to the day of application?

Thank you

tier11417 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:07 pm

Dear Members,

I know there is no requirement for accounts but we have to send the filling history as part of CAR.

Question: My latest accounts are made upto 31st May 2018 and next are due in 2020.
The CAR shows that date.

Do I need management accounts upto till the day or close to the day of application?

Thank you

No

marcnath wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:10 pm

tier11417 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:07 pm

Dear Members,

I know there is no requirement for accounts but we have to send the filling history as part of CAR.

Question: My latest accounts are made upto 31st May 2018 and next are due in 2020.
The CAR shows that date.

Do I need management accounts upto till the day or close to the day of application?

Thank you

No

Thanks Marcnath

Dear all,

Just to confirm:

CAR does NOT have any info regarding share holding or people with significant control and we dont need that right??

Thanks

Dear Marcnath,

I was going through your sample application and I can see you mentioned about genuine entrepreneur test in your cover letter. You had some pretty strong business points, I must say.

I know there are no specific documents required to pass this test, however, HO can request later if they want.

I was first thinking to purely stick with only the required documents but now I am inclined towards providing only 4 additional documents (4 pages) in support of this test.

1) VAT registration certificate
2) Employer Liability insurance certificate
3) Motor Trade Insurance Certificate
4) DVLA registration certificate for trade plates

Do you think providing the above will harm my application in any way?

I know you can only provide your personal opinion, that is what I am after.

Thank you

No to both your posts

marcnath wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:01 pm

No to both your posts

Thank you

& no to first post means “no I dont need it” Right?

tier11417 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:05 pm

marcnath wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:01 pm

No to both your posts

Thank you

& no to first post means “no I dont need it” Right?

Correct

marcnath wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:19 pm

tier11417 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:05 pm

marcnath wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:01 pm

No to both your posts

Thank you

& no to first post means “no I dont need it” Right?

Correct

Hi guys, compliments of the season. I have taken time to read through your posts and in my opinion both Mesha and Tier114 have very strong position on their applications. Don’t be panicky and just go ahead with your submissions. All the best.

Machnarth has been of tremendous help all the time, thumbs up for you mate. Also aman90. Wish everyone a wonderful 2019, full of successes.

bizman wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:56 pm

Hi guys, compliments of the season. I have taken time to read through your posts and in my opinion both Mesha and Tier114 have very strong position on their applications. Don’t be panicky and just go ahead with your submissions. All the best.

Machnarth has been of tremendous help all the time, thumbs up for you mate. Also aman90. Wish everyone a wonderful 2019, full of successes.

Thank you bizman for your kind words. Ofcourse all the credit goes to Marcnath and Aman and anyone who has helped us in anyway during this process.
Just getting there...... fingers crossed...
will keep updating my thread as events unfold as this forum is helping each and everyone of us so we should always give back...
Thanks

tier11417 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:39 pm

@mohsensari

Thanks for the page 105:

It says:

“The exception to the above rule is if their current leave was granted less than 12 months ago. In such cases the jobs must have been maintained for at least the 12 months before the date of the current application. This will include the full extension period plus the balance needed to make up the rest of the 12 months from the initial period”

it does NOT have the word “immediate” (they had it previously)

I understand we need minimum of 52 weeks of job creation. So if I apply on 31st and they dont count 31st, although I will have 52 weeks from 1st Jan - 30th Dec, however, I will not have full 12 months, as you said, 12 months are 52 weeks and 1 day.
And the guidance says at least “12 months”

Hi,
It says any job creation during your last 12 months,
If you are under transition arrangement you don’t need maintained for 12 months, for example you can have 4 worker for your last 6 months.

mohsensari wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:06 pm

tier11417 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:39 pm

@mohsensari

Thanks for the page 105:

It says:

“The exception to the above rule is if their current leave was granted less than 12 months ago. In such cases the jobs must have been maintained for at least the 12 months before the date of the current application. This will include the full extension period plus the balance needed to make up the rest of the 12 months from the initial period”

it does NOT have the word “immediate” (they had it previously)

I understand we need minimum of 52 weeks of job creation. So if I apply on 31st and they dont count 31st, although I will have 52 weeks from 1st Jan - 30th Dec, however, I will not have full 12 months, as you said, 12 months are 52 weeks and 1 day.
And the guidance says at least “12 months”

Hi,
It says any job creation during your last 12 months,
If you are under transition arrangement you don’t need maintained for 12 months, for example you can have 4 worker for your last 6 months.

Thanks for your reply. I am applying under the exception rule so my job creation will fall under the extension and some portion from the initial period also so I can only go back 12 months. (ANY 12 months is true if my whole job creation was falling within after extension period)
You are correct regarding the transitional arrangement I know.
Thanks