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Post by maheshs.2006 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:01 pm

Does anyone know when a person will be considered as a British Citizen. Is it as soon as you get your naturalisation certificate OR is it after getting the British passport?

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Post by Xzibit1 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:08 pm

For naturalisation cases, you become a British citizen as soon as you have attended the citizenship ceremony (if applicable). A passport is just a travel document and not all British Citizens have British passports.

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Post by John » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:06 pm

Further to what Xzibit1 has posted, there is no obligation on British Citizens to have a passport, but anyone that does not is just as much a British Citizen as those who do hold a British passport.

Many millions of British Citizens do not hold a valid passport, but of course they are eligible to apply for one whenever there is the need for one.
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Post by Christophe » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:23 pm

So just to add to all of that, you need to attend the citizenship ceremony, of course, because that is where you receive your certificate of naturalisation. As noted above, there is no requirement for you to have a British passport at all.

Obviously, it is likely to be useful to have one (both for travel and for purposes of proving identity etc in the UK), although if you retain your original citizenship on naturalisation you can apply to have a right of abode certificate placed in your current passport to allow you to enter the UK using it. However, there seems little if any advantage in doing that rather than obtaining a British passport.

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Post by djb123 » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:24 am

Christophe wrote:Obviously, it is likely to be useful to have one (both for travel and for purposes of proving identity etc in the UK), although if you retain your original citizenship on naturalisation you can apply to have a right of abode certificate placed in your current passport to allow you to enter the UK using it. However, there seems little if any advantage in doing that rather than obtaining a British passport.
One disadvantage of a ROA certificate is it costs £135 which is more than a British passport. Almost seems like they would rather you applied for a British passport...

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Post by maheshs.2006 » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:24 pm

Thanks for the response.

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Post by Christophe » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:36 pm

djb123 wrote:One disadvantage of a ROA certificate is it costs £135 which is more than a British passport. Almost seems like they would rather you applied for a British passport...
Oh, I agree, I can see few if any advantages of a right of abode certificate over a British passport for most people, if not all.

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Post by vinny » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:51 am

Christophe wrote:
djb123 wrote:One disadvantage of a ROA certificate is it costs £135 which is more than a British passport. Almost seems like they would rather you applied for a British passport...
Oh, I agree, I can see few if any advantages of a right of abode certificate over a British passport for most people, if not all.
Originally, it used to cost £20 (twenty pounds) in the UK, with free transfers to new passports. :(
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Post by John » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:32 pm

Vinny, that is right, and now, a restriction that came in when the fee was hiked considerably, if the person has a British Passport they will not put RoA into a non-British passport.
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Post by Christophe » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:45 pm

vinny wrote:Originally, it used to cost 20 pounds in the UK, with free transfers to new passports. :(
I know; in those days, not so long past, it could be well worth while having one as well as a British passport.
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