Flrfp application refused

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:35 am

No one my children’s are British or ILR.
Me and my three under 18 year old children’s came uk 6 year ago as paw spouse visa.

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:33 pm

Dear CR001
In my refusal letter visa officer said if my circumstances change or want to submit new grounds which one not told before use section 120.
What is this section 120 please?

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:41 pm

Dear sirs
Please please help me. I am very worried my children’s future.
Thank you

wahi66 · Post by **wahi66** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:16 pm

just a quick question.
Why dont you go back and apply FLR (M) as you spouse is earning above threshold. make you life easy and save money and time.

and children can also apply for MN1

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:46 pm

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:16 pm
just a quick question.
Why dont you go back and apply FLR (M) as you spouse is earning above threshold. make you life easy and save money and time.

and children can also apply for MN1

Why do you believe the 3 children born abroad who entered the UK in 2013 can apply to register as British on MN1?? What is the basis of this statement??

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:44 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:46 pm

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:16 pm
just a quick question.
Why dont you go back and apply FLR (M) as you spouse is earning above threshold. make you life easy and save money and time.

and children can also apply for MN1
Why do you believe the 3 children born abroad who entered the UK in 2013 can apply to register as British on MN1?? What is the basis of this statement??

Dear sirs
I do not have any family in Pakistan my mom and dad passed away. My husband did not visit Pakistan last 12 years because don’t have family connection there. That’s why unfortunately I can not go back to apply flr m
I just want to make sure can I apply my children’s British registration on MN1 as they all are under 18 and birth certificate are Pakistan my husband got ILR?

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:47 pm

Your children don't qualify for British citizenship if they do not hold ILR as they were born abroad.

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:56 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:47 pm
Your children don't qualify for British citizenship if they do not hold ILR as they were born abroad.

Can I apply flr m Here?

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:58 pm

Unlikely as you are an overstayer.

FLR(FP) Partner route is potentially the only route you could possibly apply again, but you do risk a refusal again.

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:51 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:58 pm
Unlikely as you are an overstayer.

FLR(FP) Partner route is potentially the only route you could possibly apply again, but you do risk a refusal again.

How many chance of success if consider JR?

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:31 am

No one can tell what your chance of success is. Jr is very expensive and is not a process under the immigration rules.

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:15 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:31 am
No one can tell what your chance of success is. Jr is very expensive and is not a process under the immigration rules.

In this flrfp refusal home office given section 120. “If you have reason to stay in uk that were not part of your recent application. You must state them. This requirement being is given under section 120 of the nationality immigration and asylum act 2002.”
I don’t understand what’s section 120??

wahi66 · Post by **wahi66** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:56 pm

yeah my bad. MN1 is not possible.

Casa · Post by **Casa** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:02 pm

miankhan819 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:15 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:31 am
No one can tell what your chance of success is. Jr is very expensive and is not a process under the immigration rules.
In this flrfp refusal home office given section 120. “If you have reason to stay in uk that were not part of your recent application. You must state them. This requirement being is given under section 120 of the nationality immigration and asylum act 2002.”
I don’t understand what’s section 120??

Section 120:
Requirement to state additional grounds for application
(1)This section applies to a person if—
(a)he has made an application to enter or remain in the United Kingdom, or
(b)an immigration decision within the meaning of section 82 has been taken or may be taken in respect of him.
(2)The Secretary of State or an immigration officer may by notice in writing require the person to state—
(a)his reasons for wishing to enter or remain in the United Kingdom,
(b)any grounds on which he should be permitted to enter or remain in the United Kingdom, and
(c)any grounds on which he should not be removed from or required to leave the United Kingdom.
(3)A statement under subsection (2) need not repeat reasons or grounds set out in—
(a)the application mentioned in subsection (1)(a), or
(b)an application to which the immigration decision mentioned in subsection (1)(b) relates.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/41/section/120

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:31 pm

Casa wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:02 pm

miankhan819 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:15 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:31 am
No one can tell what your chance of success is. Jr is very expensive and is not a process under the immigration rules.
In this flrfp refusal home office given section 120. “If you have reason to stay in uk that were not part of your recent application. You must state them. This requirement being is given under section 120 of the nationality immigration and asylum act 2002.”
I don’t understand what’s section 120??

Section 120:
Requirement to state additional grounds for application
(1)This section applies to a person if—
(a)he has made an application to enter or remain in the United Kingdom, or
(b)an immigration decision within the meaning of section 82 has been taken or may be taken in respect of him.
(2)The Secretary of State or an immigration officer may by notice in writing require the person to state—
(a)his reasons for wishing to enter or remain in the United Kingdom,
(b)any grounds on which he should be permitted to enter or remain in the United Kingdom, and
(c)any grounds on which he should not be removed from or required to leave the United Kingdom.
(3)A statement under subsection (2) need not repeat reasons or grounds set out in—
(a)the application mentioned in subsection (1)(a), or
(b)an application to which the immigration decision mentioned in subsection (1)(b) relates.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/41/section/120

Thank you casa
So in my case can I send new grounds to home office under section 120?

Casa · Post by **Casa** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:36 pm

miankhan819 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:31 pm

Casa wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:02 pm

miankhan819 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:15 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:31 am
No one can tell what your chance of success is. Jr is very expensive and is not a process under the immigration rules.
In this flrfp refusal home office given section 120. “If you have reason to stay in uk that were not part of your recent application. You must state them. This requirement being is given under section 120 of the nationality immigration and asylum act 2002.”
I don’t understand what’s section 120??

Section 120:
Requirement to state additional grounds for application
(1)This section applies to a person if—
(a)he has made an application to enter or remain in the United Kingdom, or
(b)an immigration decision within the meaning of section 82 has been taken or may be taken in respect of him.
(2)The Secretary of State or an immigration officer may by notice in writing require the person to state—
(a)his reasons for wishing to enter or remain in the United Kingdom,
(b)any grounds on which he should be permitted to enter or remain in the United Kingdom, and
(c)any grounds on which he should not be removed from or required to leave the United Kingdom.
(3)A statement under subsection (2) need not repeat reasons or grounds set out in—
(a)the application mentioned in subsection (1)(a), or
(b)an application to which the immigration decision mentioned in subsection (1)(b) relates.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/41/section/120
Thank you casa
So in my case can I send new grounds to home office under section 120?

Yes

wahi66 · Post by **wahi66** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:21 am

yes you can send new grounds if you have any but not repeated as mentioned.

well i would suggest complete the FLRM paper work and go back pakistan, rent a place, sort out the visas and come back. you dont need relatives/parents or anybody to short visit your own country.
by doing this you will save huge amount of time, money and big time of nightmares and stress.
trust me applying from pakistan have 99% chances of successs subject to fulfilling all the FLRM requirrments.

Casa · Post by **Casa** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:15 am

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:21 am
yes you can send new grounds if you have any but not repeated as mentioned.

well i would suggest complete the FLRM paper work and go back pakistan, rent a place, sort out the visas and come back. you dont need relatives/parents or anybody to short visit your own country.
by doing this you will save huge amount of time, money and big time of nightmares and stress.
trust me applying from pakistan have 99% chances of successs subject to fulfilling all the FLRM requirrments.

It's not possible to apply for FLR(M) from outside of the UK

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:03 am

Casa wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:15 am

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:21 am
yes you can send new grounds if you have any but not repeated as mentioned.

well i would suggest complete the FLRM paper work and go back pakistan, rent a place, sort out the visas and come back. you dont need relatives/parents or anybody to short visit your own country.
by doing this you will save huge amount of time, money and big time of nightmares and stress.
trust me applying from pakistan have 99% chances of successs subject to fulfilling all the FLRM requirrments.
It's not possible to apply for FLR(M) from outside of the UK

Can I apply flrm from here with new grounds such as my daughter in final GCSC exam due in may19 and my son in A level. My children’s study will effect and my husband on medication I can not leave him alone.
What do you think this my geniue new ground will help in my fresh flrm application?

wahi66 · Post by **wahi66** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:33 pm

Casa wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:15 am

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:21 am
yes you can send new grounds if you have any but not repeated as mentioned.

well i would suggest complete the FLRM paper work and go back pakistan, rent a place, sort out the visas and come back. you dont need relatives/parents or anybody to short visit your own country.
by doing this you will save huge amount of time, money and big time of nightmares and stress.
trust me applying from pakistan have 99% chances of successs subject to fulfilling all the FLRM requirrments.
It's not possible to apply for FLR(M) from outside of the UK

by FLRM i meant spouse visa from home country.

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:08 pm

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:33 pm

Casa wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:15 am

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:21 am
yes you can send new grounds if you have any but not repeated as mentioned.

well i would suggest complete the FLRM paper work and go back pakistan, rent a place, sort out the visas and come back. you dont need relatives/parents or anybody to short visit your own country.
by doing this you will save huge amount of time, money and big time of nightmares and stress.
trust me applying from pakistan have 99% chances of successs subject to fulfilling all the FLRM requirrments.
It's not possible to apply for FLR(M) from outside of the UK
by FLRM i meant spouse visa from home country.

FLR(M) is ONLY for applications within the UK. For a spouse visa outside the UK it is form VAF4A and Appendix 2.

wahi66 · Post by **wahi66** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:25 pm

I assumed you husband is not under special medical care where he required special personal medical assistance because he working full time to meat the threshold. and you are not a qualified nurse either. you husband can take care of himself with normal medication. council can provide special medical assistance if required by any settled person.

your children are not british so i assumed they wont take this into account either.
you are taking a maximum 50/50 chance of success along with risk of refusal and losing money.

the best shot is to go back and apply spouse, the rest is up to you.

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:53 pm

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:25 pm
I assumed you husband is not under special medical care where he required special personal medical assistance because he working full time to meat the threshold. and you are not a qualified nurse either. you husband can take care of himself with normal medication. council can provide special medical assistance if required by any settled person.

your children are not british so i assumed they wont take this into account either.
you are taking a maximum 50/50 chance of success along with risk of refusal and losing money.

the best shot is to go back and apply spouse, the rest is up to you.

Dear wahi66
How long I have a time to submit new grounds under section 120? There is not time given for section 120 in my refusal.

wahi66 · Post by **wahi66** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:54 pm

if you have grounds already then why wait just submit before losing any time.

miankhan819 · Post by **miankhan819** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:55 am

wahi66 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:54 pm
if you have grounds already then why wait just submit before losing any time.

Thank you, I m just waiting my husband apply naturalisation thereafter straight way will submit section 120.
I have one question if someone is pregnant of settle parent, does have chance to succes the application?

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