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Job creation and employee start date can be the same as long as the Jobs lasted 12 months atleast.Haadiz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:33 am
I am still unsure about the date when the Job was created, I understand what to put under start date. In my Scenario, my first employee started with me on 1st August 2015 (FT 165.50hrs/Month) and he/she still employed by us, however second employee started on 1st December 2017 (FT 130hrs/Month) and she resigned in May 2019. I am not sure what date do I have to add in Job creation section? Please advise.
Thanks
Business description and directors role in day to day activities..Haadiz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:29 pmDear Seniors,
I have furnished the following list of documents and planning to submit my application on this coming Friday. Please kindly advise If I am missing any thing? Your opinions will be much appreciated
Mandatory Documents
1. 2 Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
5. List of Travel History & Absences
Isn’t this covered in the application form? Only 5 years from the time you were granted Tier1 ENT
6. Immigration History (All Countries other than UK)
I don’t know the point of this but I’m pretty sure this isn’t a mandatory document.
Created Two Full Time Equivalent Posts
1. Current Appointment Report showing the address of Registered Head Office in the UK
2. Recent Filling History
CAR contains filling history.
3. Letter from Certified Accountant confirming 2 Net Job Creation for 2 Settled workers, including Hours Worked per Month and the Age of Employment.
Did you join a new business? Otherwise not required.
4. 2 Settled Workers Job Role/Description
5. HMRC Employer Registration Letter Confirming PAYE and Accounts Office References
6. Duplicate of 2 Settled Workers Passport Copies
7. Copies of Real Time-Full Payment Submissions – Job Number 1 & 2 (Total Payments made to the Settled Workers, showing Monthly Gross/Net Pay, Tax/NIC Deducted)
8. P32 & Copies of P11’s Deductions working sheet – Job Number 1 & 2
10. Copies of P60’s (2018/2019)
Jeez.. what will it take for applicants to understand that P11, P32 and P60’s aren’t required.
11. 14 Months Duplicate Payslips for Settled Workers - Job Number 1 & 2
Business Activity/Engagement & Evidence of Registered as Director within Three Months
1. Current Appointment Report & Recent Filling History
3. Latest 1 Months Original Business Bank Statements
Not important if submitting #4
4. Bank Letter
5. Original HMRC Letter of Company Tax Reference Number (UTR)
6. Original HMRC Letter CT41G Company Tax Reference
What’s the difference between #5 and #6?
7. Company Tax Returns CT600 Forms 2017/2018
8. Director Appointment Details Printout from Companies House
10. Overview of Company Details Printout from Companies House
#8 & #10 is part of CAR.
11. Certificate of Incorporation Printout from Companies House.
Not required
English Language
1. Original MSc Degree.
From UK?
Additional Documents (Not Mandatory but only sending to support my application)
1. Certificate of Registration For VAT
2. Two Recent VAT Submissions to HMRC
3. Company Profile
4. Company Website Snapsots
5. LinkedIn Snapshots
6. Employer’s Liability Insurance
1-6 unnecessary but it’s ok if you insist on sending.
They ll conduct their own checks regardless.
If there is no gap between a single job, best to mention the exact employee/job start date that is 2015. That is what I did.aman90 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:23 pmJob creation and employee start date can be the same as long as the Jobs lasted 12 months atleast.Haadiz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:33 am
I am still unsure about the date when the Job was created, I understand what to put under start date. In my Scenario, my first employee started with me on 1st August 2015 (FT 165.50hrs/Month) and he/she still employed by us, however second employee started on 1st December 2017 (FT 130hrs/Month) and she resigned in May 2019. I am not sure what date do I have to add in Job creation section? Please advise.
Thanks
Which seems like the case.
Dear Aman,aman90 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:37 pmBusiness description and directors role in day to day activities..Haadiz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:29 pmDear Seniors,
I have furnished the following list of documents and planning to submit my application on this coming Friday. Please kindly advise If I am missing any thing? Your opinions will be much appreciated
Mandatory Documents
1. 2 Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
5. List of Travel History & Absences
Isn’t this covered in the application form? Only 5 years from the time you were granted Tier1 ENT
6. Immigration History (All Countries other than UK)
I don’t know the point of this but I’m pretty sure this isn’t a mandatory document.
Created Two Full Time Equivalent Posts
1. Current Appointment Report showing the address of Registered Head Office in the UK
2. Recent Filling History
CAR contains filling history.
3. Letter from Certified Accountant confirming 2 Net Job Creation for 2 Settled workers, including Hours Worked per Month and the Age of Employment.
Did you join a new business? Otherwise not required.
4. 2 Settled Workers Job Role/Description
5. HMRC Employer Registration Letter Confirming PAYE and Accounts Office References
6. Duplicate of 2 Settled Workers Passport Copies
7. Copies of Real Time-Full Payment Submissions – Job Number 1 & 2 (Total Payments made to the Settled Workers, showing Monthly Gross/Net Pay, Tax/NIC Deducted)
8. P32 & Copies of P11’s Deductions working sheet – Job Number 1 & 2
10. Copies of P60’s (2018/2019)
Jeez.. what will it take for applicants to understand that P11, P32 and P60’s aren’t required.
11. 14 Months Duplicate Payslips for Settled Workers - Job Number 1 & 2
Business Activity/Engagement & Evidence of Registered as Director within Three Months
1. Current Appointment Report & Recent Filling History
3. Latest 1 Months Original Business Bank Statements
Not important if submitting #4
4. Bank Letter
5. Original HMRC Letter of Company Tax Reference Number (UTR)
6. Original HMRC Letter CT41G Company Tax Reference
What’s the difference between #5 and #6?
7. Company Tax Returns CT600 Forms 2017/2018
8. Director Appointment Details Printout from Companies House
10. Overview of Company Details Printout from Companies House
#8 & #10 is part of CAR.
11. Certificate of Incorporation Printout from Companies House.
Not required
English Language
1. Original MSc Degree.
From UK?
Additional Documents (Not Mandatory but only sending to support my application)
1. Certificate of Registration For VAT
2. Two Recent VAT Submissions to HMRC
3. Company Profile
4. Company Website Snapsots
5. LinkedIn Snapshots
6. Employer’s Liability Insurance
1-6 unnecessary but it’s ok if you insist on sending.
They ll conduct their own checks regardless.
These suffice.. the rest is up to you!Haadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:27 amDear Seniors,
Please find below updated List of my documents for your review. Kindly advise and confirm any changes required
General Documents
1. Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
5. List of Absences (5 Years)
6. Uk degree
7. Business Description & Director Role
8. 2 Settled Workers Job Role/Description
Job Creation:
1. Duplicate of 2 Settled Workers Passport Copies
2. Real Time-Full Payment Submissions 13 months only
3.13 Months payslips/Job 1 & 2
Business Activity:
1. Latest 1 Months Original Natwest Business Bank Statements
2. CT41G
3. CT600 2017/2018
4. CAR & filling history
5. PAYE Reference
Think your documents are in order, though some few ones are not needed. You can add recent tax return CT600Haadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:46 amDear Guru’s & Seniors,
I am applying for ILR on this coming Friday and prepare the following list of documents, please review and kindly advise if I am missing any thing before the submission? Please help.
In addition to this, I have following queries if you can please promptly advise
1. In Question “Have you ever been refused a visa for the UK”? My initial Tier 1 application was refused back in 2013 but the decision was over turned after AR, do I have to say “YES” to this and explain in the box that the decision was over turned OR “No” to this question? Please advise
2. Since I am sending CT41G, do I still need to submit CT600 (Latest I have is 2017/2018)?
3. Sorry if I keep repeating myself, I am still unsure about the Date the Job was created? As see below employee start date of my two employees, what date do you think I should put under Job Created? I am sending RTI/Payslips from January 2018 – February 2019 for both the employees. I remember that I interviewed Job 1 in December the 15th 2017 and Job number 2 Interviewed in August 2015. Please help
• Job Number 1: Start date 2 January 2018
• Job Number 2: Start Date October 2015
4. Do I need to send any utility bill to confirm home address?
List of Mandatory Documents
General Documents
1. Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
5. List of Travel History & Absences (5 Years Continuous Leave)
English Language
1. UK Degree Certificate
Business Activity/Engagement & Evidence of Registered as Director within Three Months
1. Original HMRC Letter CT41G Company Tax Reference (UTR)
2. Recent Current Appointment Report and Filling History
3. Bank Letter
4. Director Role & Job Description
Job Creation: Two Full Time Equivalent Posts for Settled Workers
1. Recent Current Appointment Report and Filling History
2. HMRC Employer Registration Letter Confirming PAYE and Accounts Office References
3. Copies of RTI-Full Payment Submissions (Total Period of Employments)
4. Duplicate Payslips for Settled Workers - Job Number 1 & 2
5. UK Passport Copies - 2 Settled Workers
6. 2 Settled Workers Job Role/Description
7. Employee P45 (Job Number 1) – Employee left after 15 months of employment (March 2019)
8. Employee P46 (Job Number 1) – To confirm start date (not needed)
9. Employee P46 (Job Number 2) – To confirm Start date (not needed)
List of Additional Supporting Documents
1. Letter from Certified Accountant confirming 2 Net Job Creation for 2 Settled workers, including Hours Worked per Month and the Age of Employment
2. Certificate of Registration For VAT
4. Company Profile – Overview of Business and its activities
5. Latest VAT Return-31/03/19
6. HMRC Correspondence Letter – Student Loan Deduction notification for one of my employee (not needed)
7. Director Self-Assessment (UTR)
8. 2 Clients Payment Receipts – May/June 2019
Your prompt advise will be much appreciated
Thanks Bizman and much appreciated for your quick response. I also would like to hear more thoughts on the above list and feedback from other senior members. Good to have few more feedback. Please respondbizman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:57 amThink your documents are in order, though some few ones are not needed. You can add recent tax return CT600Haadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:46 amDear Guru’s & Seniors,
I am applying for ILR on this coming Friday and prepare the following list of documents, please review and kindly advise if I am missing any thing before the submission? Please help.
In addition to this, I have following queries if you can please promptly advise
1. In Question “Have you ever been refused a visa for the UK”? My initial Tier 1 application was refused back in 2013 but the decision was over turned after AR, do I have to say “YES” to this and explain in the box that the decision was over turned OR “No” to this question? Please advise
2. Since I am sending CT41G, do I still need to submit CT600 (Latest I have is 2017/2018)?
3. Sorry if I keep repeating myself, I am still unsure about the Date the Job was created? As see below employee start date of my two employees, what date do you think I should put under Job Created? I am sending RTI/Payslips from January 2018 – February 2019 for both the employees. I remember that I interviewed Job 1 in December the 15th 2017 and Job number 2 Interviewed in August 2015. Please help
• Job Number 1: Start date 2 January 2018
• Job Number 2: Start Date October 2015
4. Do I need to send any utility bill to confirm home address?
List of Mandatory Documents
General Documents
1. Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
5. List of Travel History & Absences (5 Years Continuous Leave)
English Language
1. UK Degree Certificate
Business Activity/Engagement & Evidence of Registered as Director within Three Months
1. Original HMRC Letter CT41G Company Tax Reference (UTR)
2. Recent Current Appointment Report and Filling History
3. Bank Letter
4. Director Role & Job Description
Job Creation: Two Full Time Equivalent Posts for Settled Workers
1. Recent Current Appointment Report and Filling History
2. HMRC Employer Registration Letter Confirming PAYE and Accounts Office References
3. Copies of RTI-Full Payment Submissions (Total Period of Employments)
4. Duplicate Payslips for Settled Workers - Job Number 1 & 2
5. UK Passport Copies - 2 Settled Workers
6. 2 Settled Workers Job Role/Description
7. Employee P45 (Job Number 1) – Employee left after 15 months of employment (March 2019)
8. Employee P46 (Job Number 1) – To confirm start date (not needed)
9. Employee P46 (Job Number 2) – To confirm Start date (not needed)
List of Additional Supporting Documents
1. Letter from Certified Accountant confirming 2 Net Job Creation for 2 Settled workers, including Hours Worked per Month and the Age of Employment
2. Certificate of Registration For VAT
4. Company Profile – Overview of Business and its activities
5. Latest VAT Return-31/03/19
6. HMRC Correspondence Letter – Student Loan Deduction notification for one of my employee (not needed)
7. Director Self-Assessment (UTR)
8. 2 Clients Payment Receipts – May/June 2019
Your prompt advise will be much appreciated
Thanks Tier11417 and Aman for such a great help.tier11417 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:43 amNot sure what you are looking for when Aman90 has already made it clear twice.
You have a bunch of unnecessary documents but thats your application so its up to you.
The only mandatory documents is what Aman90 mentioned in the previous posts. If you send unnecessary documents, you risk delays.
Haadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:35 pmThanks Tier11417 and Aman for such a great help.tier11417 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:43 amNot sure what you are looking for when Aman90 has already made it clear twice.
You have a bunch of unnecessary documents but thats your application so its up to you.
The only mandatory documents is what Aman90 mentioned in the previous posts. If you send unnecessary documents, you risk delays.
After the review of my documents, I have finalized the following list;
List of Mandatory Documents
General Documents
1. Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
English Language
1. UK Degree Certificate
Business Activity
1. Companies House Filing History Page and Current Appointment Report
2. HMRC Letter CT41G - Company Tax Reference (UTR)
3. Company Tax Returns CT600 2017/2018
4. Bank Letter – Confirmation of Business Account
5. Director Job Description & Company Overview
Job Creation: Two Full Time Equivalent Posts for Settled Workers
1. Companies House Filing History Page and Current Appointment Report
2. HMRC Employer Registration Letter Confirming PAYE and Accounts Office References
3. Real Time-Full Payment Submissions – Job Number 1 & 2
4. Duplicate Payslips for Settled Workers - Job Number 1 & 2
5. UK Passports Copies - 2 Settled Workers
6. Employees Job Role & Description - Job Number 1 & 2
7. Employee P45 (Job Number 1) not needed
List of Additional Supporting Documents
1. List of Travel History & Absences (5 Years Continuous Leave) not needed. You would already have mentioned this in the online form.
2. Company Profile
Your Prompt reply will be much appreciated
Noted your instructions with thanks. Please advise on the following few more questionstier11417 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:39 pmHaadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:35 pmThanks Tier11417 and Aman for such a great help.tier11417 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:43 amNot sure what you are looking for when Aman90 has already made it clear twice.
You have a bunch of unnecessary documents but thats your application so its up to you.
The only mandatory documents is what Aman90 mentioned in the previous posts. If you send unnecessary documents, you risk delays.
After the review of my documents, I have finalized the following list;
List of Mandatory Documents
General Documents
1. Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
English Language
1. UK Degree Certificate
Business Activity
1. Companies House Filing History Page and Current Appointment Report
2. HMRC Letter CT41G - Company Tax Reference (UTR)
3. Company Tax Returns CT600 2017/2018
4. Bank Letter – Confirmation of Business Account
5. Director Job Description & Company Overview
Job Creation: Two Full Time Equivalent Posts for Settled Workers
1. Companies House Filing History Page and Current Appointment Report
2. HMRC Employer Registration Letter Confirming PAYE and Accounts Office References
3. Real Time-Full Payment Submissions – Job Number 1 & 2
4. Duplicate Payslips for Settled Workers - Job Number 1 & 2
5. UK Passports Copies - 2 Settled Workers
6. Employees Job Role & Description - Job Number 1 & 2
7. Employee P45 (Job Number 1) not needed
List of Additional Supporting Documents
1. List of Travel History & Absences (5 Years Continuous Leave) not needed. You would already have mentioned this in the online form.
2. Company Profile
Your Prompt reply will be much appreciated
1) Yes declare itHaadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:48 pmNoted your instructions with thanks. Please advise on the following few more questionstier11417 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:39 pmHaadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:35 pmThanks Tier11417 and Aman for such a great help.tier11417 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:43 amNot sure what you are looking for when Aman90 has already made it clear twice.
You have a bunch of unnecessary documents but thats your application so its up to you.
The only mandatory documents is what Aman90 mentioned in the previous posts. If you send unnecessary documents, you risk delays.
After the review of my documents, I have finalized the following list;
List of Mandatory Documents
General Documents
1. Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
English Language
1. UK Degree Certificate
Business Activity
1. Companies House Filing History Page and Current Appointment Report
2. HMRC Letter CT41G - Company Tax Reference (UTR)
3. Company Tax Returns CT600 2017/2018
4. Bank Letter – Confirmation of Business Account
5. Director Job Description & Company Overview
Job Creation: Two Full Time Equivalent Posts for Settled Workers
1. Companies House Filing History Page and Current Appointment Report
2. HMRC Employer Registration Letter Confirming PAYE and Accounts Office References
3. Real Time-Full Payment Submissions – Job Number 1 & 2
4. Duplicate Payslips for Settled Workers - Job Number 1 & 2
5. UK Passports Copies - 2 Settled Workers
6. Employees Job Role & Description - Job Number 1 & 2
7. Employee P45 (Job Number 1) not needed
List of Additional Supporting Documents
1. List of Travel History & Absences (5 Years Continuous Leave) not needed. You would already have mentioned this in the online form.
2. Company Profile
Your Prompt reply will be much appreciated
1. In application it ask, “Have you ever been refused a visa for the UK”? My initial Tier 1 application was refused back in 2013 but the decision was over turned after AR, do I have to say “YES” to this and explain in the box that the decision was over turned OR “No” to this question? Please advise
2. Sorry if I keep repeating myself, I am still unsure about the Date the Job was created? As see below employee start date of my two employees, what date do you think I should put under Job Created? I am sending RTI/Payslips from January 2018 – February 2019 for both the employees. I remember that I interviewed Job 1 in December the 15th 2017 and Job number 2 Interviewed in August 2015. Please help
• Job Number 1: Start date 2 January 2018
• Job Number 2: Start Date October 2015
3. Do I need to send any utility bill to confirm home address?
Thank you so much Tier11417 for the explaination you have provided, you are always very helpful.tier11417 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:53 pm1) Yes declare itHaadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:48 pmNoted your instructions with thanks. Please advise on the following few more questionstier11417 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:39 pmHaadiz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:35 pm
Thanks Tier11417 and Aman for such a great help.
After the review of my documents, I have finalized the following list;
List of Mandatory Documents
General Documents
1. Passports & BRP
2. Main Applicant – SET(O)
3. Consent Form
4. Life in the UK Test
English Language
1. UK Degree Certificate
Business Activity
1. Companies House Filing History Page and Current Appointment Report
2. HMRC Letter CT41G - Company Tax Reference (UTR)
3. Company Tax Returns CT600 2017/2018
4. Bank Letter – Confirmation of Business Account
5. Director Job Description & Company Overview
Job Creation: Two Full Time Equivalent Posts for Settled Workers
1. Companies House Filing History Page and Current Appointment Report
2. HMRC Employer Registration Letter Confirming PAYE and Accounts Office References
3. Real Time-Full Payment Submissions – Job Number 1 & 2
4. Duplicate Payslips for Settled Workers - Job Number 1 & 2
5. UK Passports Copies - 2 Settled Workers
6. Employees Job Role & Description - Job Number 1 & 2
7. Employee P45 (Job Number 1) not needed
List of Additional Supporting Documents
1. List of Travel History & Absences (5 Years Continuous Leave) not needed. You would already have mentioned this in the online form.
2. Company Profile
Your Prompt reply will be much appreciated
1. In application it ask, “Have you ever been refused a visa for the UK”? My initial Tier 1 application was refused back in 2013 but the decision was over turned after AR, do I have to say “YES” to this and explain in the box that the decision was over turned OR “No” to this question? Please advise
2. Sorry if I keep repeating myself, I am still unsure about the Date the Job was created? As see below employee start date of my two employees, what date do you think I should put under Job Created? I am sending RTI/Payslips from January 2018 – February 2019 for both the employees. I remember that I interviewed Job 1 in December the 15th 2017 and Job number 2 Interviewed in August 2015. Please help
• Job Number 1: Start date 2 January 2018
• Job Number 2: Start Date October 2015
3. Do I need to send any utility bill to confirm home address?
2) I have already answered this previously. Lets say if a job was created in Sep 2015 and its been continuous even if the employees were replaced but the job was continuous mention the start date of the job and start dates of employees respectively. For example Job 1 was created in Sep 2015 employee A was hired and left in Jan 2018, employee B replaced in Jan 2018 and you are only claiming for employee B. Then Job start date Sep 2015 and employee B start date Jan 2018.
If the job is not consecutive for example job was created in Sep 2017 but then the employee left and you did not hire again till Jan 2018 (given you are claiming from Jan 2018) them employee and job start date can be the same does not matter. Hope its clear now.
3) No
will take it on board and will declare.tier11417 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:01 pmI am not sure why Aman90 said so. I have not gone through your whole thread but as per my understanding you should declare it regardless and provide an explanation that you were later granted. It will have no impact on your ILR anyways. Best to be truthful.
Other questions you asked yes correct. I had a similar scenario like yours with one employee working from Oct 2015 and I did the same as you stated.
Great stuff. Good to have you here my friend and thanks for your helpYou are right and I understand the importance of communication with the case worker. For this what I have prepared is the table and the Job Description and their role for each employee. Please see link below that shows the detail of start/leaving dates, paid hours weekly/Monthly, hourly rate and so on. Please find attached for your reviewtier11417 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:12 pmAs job creation is one of the main things for ILR, I would advise you to add a cover letter and mention clearly how you are meeting the job creation requirements. It makes easier for CW and gives you an opportunity to explain how you calculated. Not necessary but just a suggestion.
