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Investigations

Post by Finepaddy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:21 am

To just let u know guys got confirmation from top of investigation team. GNIB coming after people if they ever submit fabricated, bogus documents and if they lied about anything in relation to Immigration or Citizenship. Yesterday I heard from state solicitor office that they are preparing 7,8 cases so they can revoke their passports. Last year GNIB started a operation ***** one of member of the team said we will work on each case sooner or letter but we will open all the files again.
If EU women not living in Ireland.
If u ever provide false documents.
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country.
If u got fa ke pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too.
If ur married in home country and got married here too.
So basically if u ever cheat INIS, GNIB or citizenship. Ur status will come to end eventually sooner or later.
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke.
Many investigation are still pending. That's the main delay in all pending applications and dont think if they are not asking any documents than they are not looking ur case. They are preparing ur files so incase if it will end up in court they have everything to prove.
So u know ur case better then anyone else. I saw in few cases people got Irish passport but gnib took it back cause 5 year before they provide fa ke payslips or fabricated utility Bill's or if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. They are looking into all this matters.
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Re: Investigations

Post by kupuser » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:05 am

This indication is also found in the document present on INIS website (2018-2020 plan). They say their target will be to be strict / tough on all abusers of immigration system and they will also remove them. They mentioned marriages of convenience and unwarranted asylum cases (especially people coming from UK after their visas expire).

I feel this action will create a lot of applications in the repatriation division for section 3 (humanitarian leave to remain). Especially those who arrived and lived legally for 5+ years and who are in the state 10+ years. It will be interesting to see how they are deal with.

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Re: Investigations

Post by finalversion_2k » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am

they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got fake pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:

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Re: Investigations

Post by shpirtshqipe » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:56 am

finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am
they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:


The OP is rightly pointing out that the immigration system is being systematically exploited and abused thus forcing the hand of INIS (and in the process give them more reasons) to be tougher and in doing so punish those of us who are genuine.

For example the UK is arguably the largest floodgate where such bad practice is coming from. An example is a BBC program that alleges some applicants didn’t even leave the UK and yet they miraculously lived in Ireland for a number of months, renting, pay bills, payslips etc for a few by the fraudsters.

See link:
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com ... k-38597384


Best Regards

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Re: Investigations

Post by finalversion_2k » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:14 am

shpirtshqipe wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:56 am
finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am
they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:


The OP is rightly pointing out that the immigration system is being systematically exploited and abused thus forcing the hand of INIS (and in the process give them more reasons) to be tougher and in doing so punish those of us who are genuine.

For example the UK is arguably the largest floodgate where such bad practice is coming from. An example is a BBC program that alleges some applicants didn’t even leave the UK and yet they miraculously lived in Ireland for a number of months, renting, pay bills, payslips etc for a few by the fraudsters.

See link:
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com ... k-38597384


Best Regards



I'm agreeing with you Yes people Abuse/exploit the immigration system. yes they should be accountable.. but its not that easy it's not peace of cake, they need to do a lot in order to tackle that challenge.

Yes they will be working on some strategies, setting up some standards, some rules, some criteria to validate who exploited the system.. Not like take some random citizen applicant and checking PPS, checking Payslips, exchanging data from NON-EU country.. May be O'm wrong but i think this will take time.

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Re: Investigations

Post by kupuser » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:16 am

shpirtshqipe wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:56 am
finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am
they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:


The OP is rightly pointing out that the immigration system is being systematically exploited and abused thus forcing the hand of INIS (and in the process give them more reasons) to be tougher and in doing so punish those of us who are genuine.

For example the UK is arguably the largest floodgate where such bad practice is coming from. An example is a BBC program that alleges some applicants didn’t even leave the UK and yet they miraculously lived in Ireland for a number of months, renting, pay bills, payslips etc for a few by the fraudsters.

See link:
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com ... k-38597384


Best Regards


Few years back a family moved in as my neighbors into the apartment next to mine. They showed IT employment documents to the landlord and claimed they had permanently moved here. But they actually used to drive up to Belfast and went back to UK during the night :D .

Apparently they had to pretend to be poor in UK to receive benefits but were showing good pay in Ireland to sponsor their siblings / spouses. I think they were eventually caught by the system.

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Re: Investigations

Post by kupuser » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:21 am

finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am
they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:


Yes. While it is easy for GNIB to cancel the permission using little evidence against EUTR applicant, it might be relatively difficult to revoke citizenship and even more difficult to put on criminal charges successfully.

I know at least 1 person who was caught up in marriage of convenience investigation, his permission was revoked but he wasn't deported eventually and given temporary permission to live and work as he had arrived legally in Ireland.

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Re: Investigations

Post by Finepaddy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:37 am

finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am
they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:




Well I have all the answers for u to explain in deep depth to open ur close eyes but I m not going to mention anything. I like to take shit out of people but dont worry be positive or even if u want go to sleep again and if u done nothing wrong than this post wasn't for you.

One side people plan to cheat but they forget other side they have whole department who specialised to deal these cases. U only think about ur case and they have plenty of cases to learn.
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Re: Investigations

Post by Finepaddy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:42 am

kupuser wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:21 am
finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am
they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:


Yes. While it is easy for GNIB to cancel the permission using little evidence against EUTR applicant, it might be relatively difficult to revoke citizenship and even more difficult to put on criminal charges successfully.

How come it will be difficult to revoke? Do u ever read citizenship guidelines? It's on main page or either last one. If u lie in ur citizenship then ************** still think It will be hard to revoke?
When they present evidence against anyone trust me the same person wont go to court to defend more lies.

I know at least 1 person who was caught up in marriage of convenience investigation, his permission was revoked but he wasn't deported eventually and given temporary permission to live and work as he had arrived legally in Ireland.
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Re: Investigations

Post by Finepaddy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:47 am

I m not a tech guy but if this post taking shit out of someone or bothering any person either delete or close re posting.


Some people dont like reality.

Purpose of this post was to make u aware not to create panic.
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Re: Investigations

Post by finalversion_2k » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:54 am

Finepaddy wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:37 am
finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am
they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:




Well I have all the answers for u to explain in deep depth to open ur close eyes but I m not going to mention anything. I like to take shit out of people but dont worry be positive or even if u want go to sleep again and if u done nothing wrong than this post wasn't for you.

One side people plan to cheat but they forget other side they have whole department who specialised to deal these cases. U only think about ur case and they have plenty of cases to learn.


@Finepaddy bro don't get angry :lol: .. good debate is always good for every one, people like things which make sense, people like to read advice, others experiences.. I'm little bit agreed with your post Yes they can do anything what they want.. but it's difficult to prove what you mentioned below.. if you have any logical answer please share, people will love to hear your thoughts..

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Re: Investigations

Post by finalversion_2k » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:59 am

Finepaddy wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:42 am
kupuser wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:21 am
finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am
they can do everything no doubts

but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..

If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)

If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)

If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )

Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)

if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )


I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out :lol: . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive.. :wink:


Yes. While it is easy for GNIB to cancel the permission using little evidence against EUTR applicant, it might be relatively difficult to revoke citizenship and even more difficult to put on criminal charges successfully.

How come it will be difficult to revoke? Do u ever read citizenship guidelines? It's on main page or either last one. If u lie in ur citizenship then ************** still think It will be hard to revoke?
When they present evidence against anyone trust me the same person wont go to court to defend more lies.

I know at least 1 person who was caught up in marriage of convenience investigation, his permission was revoked but he wasn't deported eventually and given temporary permission to live and work as he had arrived legally in Ireland.


agreed if you lie they will and they should revoke.. question is who will prove you are lying and how?? we are not in third world country where people in power can do anything.. In ireland ther are courts you can challenge, drag them to court.

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Re: Investigations

Post by kupuser » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:08 am

This is not "news" or a "secret" anymore. Most of what is being mentioned has already started / happened few years ago.

The committee to ponder on revocation has been formed earlier this year and the legal debate is happening if the minister / committee have the power to revoke citizenship or is it up to the court.

It is easy to refuse application for residency and to revoke it but to revoke citizenship is a bigger step hence will require better quality of evidence. If I am not mistaken only a handful of people have ever been stripped of their citizenship in Ireland.

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Re: Investigations

Post by Finepaddy » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:00 pm

There used to be mauritian guy who provided fa ke payslips to plenty of Non EU people and in end he got deported, anyone remember him? He made a over million euro with fa ke documents and other things u name it, he didn't spend a day in jail (wonder why) he made a deal with detectives.
Cant mentioned everything here.

If 10 PPS issued to one address and 9 pps belong to non EU, who had eu wives, I would suggest it's worth looking into that.

He know a guy in spar who had 10 staff in 6 months who hired students(may be) but can u name any business or place where 10 people got payslips and all payslips end up in EU treaty department?

They need to sign MOU to get information( no one is looking EU citizens information) they need non EU info from his/her country, so at least show some smartness u dont need any MOU or any agreement.
Within EU they have many agencies who share data without asking u.

A person who doesn't know his wife is from Poland or Latvia giving advice on this forum that Ireland is not 3 world country.

U should think before u write. I shared this info if any one interested to know what's going on.

Me or others are not here to advise anyone how to cheat system or how to undo anyone's dirty work, once damage is done it's done, if anyone think solicitor will help them than yeah they will help u to pay them there own charges.

Why we have so many Immigration solicitor now a days Cause its money making area for them. Even many solicitor never study Immigration law but when u go to them they wont refuse u but question is why would they refuse they have right to make money like others.
Sorry have nothing to do so thought I should reply u incase u think u get no help from me.
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Re: Investigations

Post by finalversion_2k » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:59 am

I think you mind what I said, hope you will not mind to hear my point of view as well.

There used to be mauritian guy who provided fa ke payslips to plenty of Non EU people and in end he got deported, anyone remember him? He made a over million euro with fa ke documents and other things u name it, he didn't spend a day in jail (wonder why) he made a deal with detectives.
Cant mentioned everything here. Yes I read about that guy. he was also running college as well which was sealed long time ago, he has child here as well with European, and yes they deport him..

If 10 PPS issued to one address and 9 pps belong to non EU, who had eu wives, I would suggest it's worth looking into that. its not what me OR you suggest we are not EU treaty clerics all we can share our experience and knowledge here.

He know a guy in spar who had 10 staff in 6 months who hired students(may be) but can u name any business or place where 10 people got payslips and all payslips end up in EU treaty department? Number of spar in ireland is 370 stores & provide employment to 14,000 people. now you can add other small business as well like (Lundis, Centra, Maze and others) how many you will scan, do you think its peace of cake to filter that much data?? Bro I said before as well the only way to catch those are to check is that business paying taxes, do they have any dues?

They need to sign MOU to get information( no one is looking EU citizens information) they need non EU info from his/her country, so at least show some smartness u dont need any MOU or any agreement.
Within EU they have many agencies who share data without asking u. would you please come out of street gossip mind set, these days data is power, you can make and brake any country by this, TRUMP is example for you, CIA says russia interfere in election and make him win :lol: .. gov can't share their citizen data to other countries without any agreements. its against countries sovereignty. its always give and take.. Yes if its very high level Criminal OR world most Wanted person then in that case they will share with other countries without any agreement just to achieve mutual goals for better world.

A person who doesn't know his wife is from Poland or Latvia giving advice on this forum that Ireland is not 3 world country. hahaha that's sweet, :lol: A person who joined forum hardly 4 months ago giving advises like professional solicitor & argue on un-logical comments. bro grow up and gv logical reasons, instead of getting serious give proper logical reason OR references..


will love to hear your thoughts on above.. :wink:

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Re: Investigations

Post by Obie » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:19 am

I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing to be achieved in the continued existence of this thread.

It has degenerated from a debate to insult, and I find it uninformative and counterproductive. I am therefore closing it.
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