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finalversion_2k wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 amthey can do everything no doubts
but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)
If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)
If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)
if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )
I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive..
shpirtshqipe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:56 amfinalversion_2k wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 amthey can do everything no doubts
but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)
If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)
If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)
if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )
I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive..
The OP is rightly pointing out that the immigration system is being systematically exploited and abused thus forcing the hand of INIS (and in the process give them more reasons) to be tougher and in doing so punish those of us who are genuine.
For example the UK is arguably the largest floodgate where such bad practice is coming from. An example is a BBC program that alleges some applicants didn’t even leave the UK and yet they miraculously lived in Ireland for a number of months, renting, pay bills, payslips etc for a few by the fraudsters.
See link:
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com ... k-38597384
Best Regards
shpirtshqipe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:56 amfinalversion_2k wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 amthey can do everything no doubts
but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)
If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)
If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)
if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )
I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive..
The OP is rightly pointing out that the immigration system is being systematically exploited and abused thus forcing the hand of INIS (and in the process give them more reasons) to be tougher and in doing so punish those of us who are genuine.
For example the UK is arguably the largest floodgate where such bad practice is coming from. An example is a BBC program that alleges some applicants didn’t even leave the UK and yet they miraculously lived in Ireland for a number of months, renting, pay bills, payslips etc for a few by the fraudsters.
See link:
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com ... k-38597384
Best Regards
finalversion_2k wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 amthey can do everything no doubts
but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)
If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)
If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)
if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )
I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive..
finalversion_2k wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 amthey can do everything no doubts
but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)
If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)
If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)
if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )
I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive..
kupuser wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:21 amfinalversion_2k wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 amthey can do everything no doubts
but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)
If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)
If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)
if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )
I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive..
Yes. While it is easy for GNIB to cancel the permission using little evidence against EUTR applicant, it might be relatively difficult to revoke citizenship and even more difficult to put on criminal charges successfully.
How come it will be difficult to revoke? Do u ever read citizenship guidelines? It's on main page or either last one. If u lie in ur citizenship then ************** still think It will be hard to revoke?
When they present evidence against anyone trust me the same person wont go to court to defend more lies.
I know at least 1 person who was caught up in marriage of convenience investigation, his permission was revoked but he wasn't deported eventually and given temporary permission to live and work as he had arrived legally in Ireland.
Finepaddy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:37 amfinalversion_2k wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 amthey can do everything no doubts
but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)
If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)
If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)
if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )
I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive..
Well I have all the answers for u to explain in deep depth to open ur close eyes but I m not going to mention anything. I like to take shit out of people but dont worry be positive or even if u want go to sleep again and if u done nothing wrong than this post wasn't for you.
One side people plan to cheat but they forget other side they have whole department who specialised to deal these cases. U only think about ur case and they have plenty of cases to learn.
Finepaddy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:42 amkupuser wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:21 amfinalversion_2k wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 amthey can do everything no doubts
but lots of things you mentioned below I think they are exaggerated and looks little difficult to prove by law.. for Example..
If u ever lied and provide irish pay slips and ur spouse found to be working in other EU country. (What if she has business in back home e.g property which she's getting rent and paying tax & she's living here and working with her spouse. there is no where mentioned in Law that you can't invest Or money in another country)
If u got bad quality pay slip from someone and he provided more pay slips to other people too. e.g ( I know some one who business SPAR and give job to students and almost every 6 months someone in his staff change the only way to capture those are companies who don't pay taxes & give pay slips to hundreds of peoples)
If ur married in home country and got married here too. e.g. ( for getting personal data from NON-EU countries they need to sign MOU with that country, which mean data sharing will be on both ends, do Ireland ready to provide ther Irish citizen data to NON-EU countries?? I don't think this will be easy as Ireland need to follow the EU law for data sharing?? )
Even now if u r Irish passport holder they will seek court order to revoke. e.g ( what if you moved to any other EU country and they request to court, Now by law they can't complete the proceeding just hearing one side, they need to send you court summt and proceedings)
if someone has pps number and on that address if other people got pps too. e.g. (In current housing crises I have seen 4 to 8 peoples living in 2 to 3 bedroom houses. I don't know anyone who came to Ireland straight away and got an apartment, everyone comes and go for sharing initially, regardless student OR EU.. how they will prove this?? )
I saw your other posts as well, not sure why you are always trying to take the shit out . we are here to help each other bro. be good, be positive..
Yes. While it is easy for GNIB to cancel the permission using little evidence against EUTR applicant, it might be relatively difficult to revoke citizenship and even more difficult to put on criminal charges successfully.
How come it will be difficult to revoke? Do u ever read citizenship guidelines? It's on main page or either last one. If u lie in ur citizenship then ************** still think It will be hard to revoke?
When they present evidence against anyone trust me the same person wont go to court to defend more lies.
I know at least 1 person who was caught up in marriage of convenience investigation, his permission was revoked but he wasn't deported eventually and given temporary permission to live and work as he had arrived legally in Ireland.