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visa refused after 23 months

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by uzair286 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:38 pm

They definitely lost your file. Make sure you hire good solicitor to make strong grounds. You have a really good chance to get this visa now as what they said is just time waste they could refuse you in one week with the same grounds so why tbey took years. They just wasted your time same case i got all the points and refused me just waste my money and time

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:42 pm

Home office didn't knew it for 23 months i don't have possession of funds ?

if i was not a crediable businessman why i have given £5000 VAT for the first quarter of my VAT

i have transfered funds from my personal account to business account have provided Director Loan which she never saw it ?

Director Loan what is meant by director loan she never read the doc

i have transferred funds in big amounts £23k £10k not £500 £200


i think so they have refused me intentionally

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:45 pm

uzair286 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:38 pm
They definitely lost your file. Make sure you hire good solicitor to make strong grounds. You have a really good chance to get this visa now as what they said is just time waste they could refuse you in one week with the same grounds so why tbey took years. They just wasted your time same case i got all the points and refused me just waste my money and time
what does policy guidance says it says money should be transferred and consumed in the business.

this what i have done i have consumed and transferred funds i have hired a barrister to write a letter to them

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:45 pm

I hope so moderators can make a valuebale comment

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by uzair286 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:10 am

Policy guidelines dosnt say anything but money must be transferred in personel account then business as a director loan. I have transferred money in three years 4th months before of my application and transfered like 500 1000 5000 10000 3000 and got all the points 95. So dont wory u will get visa definitely. The way they check application is just a juke they already setup their mind that they will refuse you if you even get all the points then they will refuse you on genuinity and their is no rules and law for genuinity it could be anything and to proof you are genuine take months and finaly court decide what to do. They deliberately take you to this long process like AR PaP and court. You havnt got points in investment area so there is a chance to win in AR but there is zero chances if someone refused on basis of genuinity. But you will get visa definitely

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by uzair286 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:20 am

Make sure you send the whole proof of documents (not new) only those documents which help to prove your refusal points every single refusal needs proof of documents if you miss this proof of documents then there is zero chances to win in AR. I been through all stages so make sure you prepare strong grounds in my personal experience barrister is the main person who can explain well the genuinity refusals. They will charge you little bit more tham solicitors but the way they explained is tottaly different.

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:09 am

Yes i have seen a solicitor yesterday
I dont know what to say i have a family here as well i will lodge a complaint against two compliance officers as they tried to push me too much during the interview
I have been told by the solicitor to prepare all docs which are mentioned in AR so that it can be lodged insaAllah what has been written by Allah will happen

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:37 am

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This is my investment summary

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:43 am

Link removed by moderator - Please do NOT post links to documents where you have NOT properly blacked out and redacted the specific personal and identifiable details. Everything in the link you posted is clearly legible!!!



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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:27 pm

i would like add that in my refusal letter they have mentioned about Share capital and i never gave home office share capital i gave them Director Loan with my extension Application

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by marcnath » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:18 am

You seem to have a good case. Good luck with your AR
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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:39 pm

what do u think is it winable in AR or it will go to JR ?

@zimba sorry for mentioning your name i will appreciate your comment as well mate

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by zimba » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:51 pm

Yes ,you have a good case as far as I see. You said you have a solicitor helping you out. Many refusals like yours were overturned in AR.
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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by uzair286 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:59 pm

umer.shahzad1 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:39 pm
what do u think is it winable in AR or it will go to JR ?

@zimba sorry for mentioning your name i will appreciate your comment as well mate
Hi shehzad have you applied for AR

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:43 am

Not yet bro my barrister is just making AR

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:47 pm

I have submitted AR today lets see what happens

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:02 pm

My admin review is in process and i got full IHS refund today does it means my admin review is refused as well

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:28 pm

MY AR is i think so refused i will a formal refusal letter in post in few days as IHS has been refunded in full ,
i am waiting for a formal letter from HO

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by Zerubbabel » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:28 am

umer.shahzad1 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:02 pm
My admin review is in process and i got full IHS refund today does it means my admin review is refused as well
It's a bad sign when they refund the IHS. Wait for the refusal to see on what grounds. Sorry for you man.

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:11 am

i know i have read it in the refusal letter when they give IHS refund and i have read online as well when they refund for IHS so atm i cannot say anything lets wait for official letter from home office whatever is the outcome but 75 percent cases its refusal 25 its not but lets see

thanks for your feedback

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:43 am

my admin review application has been refused and they have maintained the original decision

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:16 pm

they person who have assessed my admin review just copy pasted my admin review which was written by my solicitor says we maintained our decision

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by Zerubbabel » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:43 am

They still dispute the credibility of your business.

The way they see it, is that you never had access to the £200'000.

Do you have any document that prove that at one point in the UK you had access to these funds?

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:04 am



well the thing is that i have provided them my personal bank account statement from where the funds were transferred 200K from my personal account to Business in parts not in full as the funds were held in Pakistan so i have transferred the funds in parts from Pakistan to the UK

there is no requriment in the policy guidance which states to transfer the funds in one shot

in my initial application i have been given points which states i will dispose these funds in the UK and they will be transferred to the Uk which i have done and invested in the Business

Investment Summary and Director Loan was given with my application but they overlooked these two docs

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