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Documents indicating presence in the UK

Post by London333 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:22 am

Hi all

I've been living in the UK for the past 20 years and want to apply for naturalisation. I have settled status / ILR

And I have a question regarding the documents indicating presence in the UK "from employers, educational establishments, or other government departments".

- I'm self employed, do you have any advice what kids of proof from employers I could send in?
- and what are other government departments? NHS?

These are the docs I have so far...is this enough?
- a letter from my childrens' school stating that I reside at my home address in the UK and that my children have been attending this school since 2013
- a letter from the local college (UAL) with a list of all the classes I've taught there on location since 2011 (classes are only Oct-Dec and Jan-Mar)

Are these docs sufficient? What else can I add? I'd appreciate any input please

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Re: Documents indicating presence in the UK

Post by Zerubbabel » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:32 pm

- a letter from my childrens' school stating that I reside at my home address in the UK and that my children have been attending this school since 2013
I am not a great believer in this letter.

The letter from the school you work for is good but you need more. Do you receive any letters from HMRC?

What's your citizenship?

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Re: Documents indicating presence in the UK

Post by London333 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:05 pm

Thank you for your reply Zerubbabel, I appreciate it and you make a lot of sense!

For example, you raise a point that I already suspected: an official letter from my kids school confirming that I live at my address and that my kids have been at that school since 2013 doesn't hold much weight. How can I make it sound better?

On your advice I've also dug through my archives (I'm German btw but not very bureaucratic, which means I didn't really hang on to all the letters that have been posted to me over the years).

My part time employer is sending me these:
- The last 5 years of P60 from my part time employer (the problem is that the courses I teach are term-time, with the months May-September are unaccounted for, so even though I've been here and raised my kids here there could be perceived "holes" in my presence in the UK?


And I found these additional docs, and would be eternally grateful if you could let me know which ones would be useful?

- 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 Local Government Pension Scheme Annual Benefit Statement
- July 2015 HMRC letter about the changes they made to Class 2 National Insurance
- a letter from the landlord confirming my husband and me have rented from him since 2008
- 2017 two letters from different employers confirming that I worked there between 2003-2011
- 2016 "Your first accounts" letter from Companies House
- P60 from 2012, 2013
- P45 from 2012
- P45 2019
- July 2018 letter from the college I teach at reminding me of "the new hourly paid system"
- Feb 2015 HMRC PAYE coding Notice
- March 2017 letter from HMRC
- Jul 2018 HMRC letter stating that my company tax return is due
- Aug 2012 HMRC NI record
- Jan 2014 letter from teh college I teach at
- Feb 2014 Local Government Pension Scheme letter
- Business Bank account statement (it says NO Bank statements right?)
- undated letter from ABRSM (official music institution)
- 2015 - 2017 HMRC letters I have a whole collection of those. But here's the problem: this letter only contains the previous name of my company before I officially changed it. My personal name isn't on there, b ut my home address is on there. It is possible to figure out that this company is related to me, but would they look that up? Would this type of document work?
- letters from the NHS hospital addressed to the parent or guardian of my daughter (my name isn't on there but our home address)


To finish this off, I need to prove 3 years of presence. I've been here 18 and at this address 12. In my logic it makes sense to include a few older ones to show that continuity. Am I onto something here or just not thinking like a lawyer at all?


Thanks so much in advance.

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Documents to prove presence in the UK

Post by London333 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:36 am

Hi all

I'm an EU citizen with settled status.

I'd love your feedback on to which forms to use to prove presence in the UK.

Here's my list

- Local Government Pension Scheme Annual Benefit Statement
- HMRC general correspondence
- a letter from landlord
- letters from employers confirming that I worked there
- Companies House letter
- P60
- P45
- HMRC self assessment history

I'd really appreciate your advice on this.

Thank you

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Permanent residence card necessary before applying for citizenship?

Post by London333 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:39 am

Hi all

I'm an EEA national and have just gotten settled status / ILR.

Do I need to apply for and receive a permanent residence card before I can apply for citizenship?

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Re: Permanent residence card necessary before applying for citizenship?

Post by CR001 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:05 am

No you don't but with Settled status, you have to wait the full 12 months before you can apply for citizenship.

PR can be backdated if you have a 5 year qualifying period more than 1 year ago. Settled status is not back dated.

Can you PLEASE keep ALL your questions on the same application in ONE topic!!!

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[Please help!] Documents to prove presence in UK

Post by London333 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:36 pm

Thank you CR001!

As I'm married to a British citizen I'll be able to apply immediately for citizenship now.

And apologies for starting separate topics, I thought that would be easier for others to only read about those parts of my application concerning them too. But I will stick to this one thread now!

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Re: Permanent residence card necessary before applying for citizenship?

Post by London333 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:37 pm

If anyone is reading this, I'd love to hear which ones would be useful to prove residence in the UK

- Local Government Pension Scheme Annual Benefit Statement
- HMRC general correspondence
- a letter from landlord
- letters from employers confirming that I worked there
- Companies House letter
- P60
- P45
- HMRC self assessment history

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Proof of Residence: Online Council Tax Bills?

Post by London333 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:02 pm

Hi all!

Can I just print out online council tax bills and use them as proof of residence for my citizenship application to cover the 3 year period?
Or do I need to get them stamped by the council?
Or do I need to request original letters printed & posted by the council?

Thank you so much in advance

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Re: Permanent residence card necessary before applying for citizenship?

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:09 pm

London333 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:37 pm
If anyone is reading this, I'd love to hear which ones would be useful to prove residence in the UK

- Local Government Pension Scheme Annual Benefit Statement probably
- HMRC general correspondence yes
- a letter from landlord no
- letters from employers confirming that I worked there yes
- Companies House letter yes
- P60 yes
- P45 no
- HMRC self assessment history
generally P60s or employer's letters are requested - not all documents though
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Re: Proof of Residence: Online Council Tax Bills?

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:10 pm

London333 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:02 pm
Hi all!

Can I just print out online council tax bills and use them as proof of residence for my citizenship application to cover the 3 year period? should be fine if your name is on them
Or do I need to get them stamped by the council? no
Or do I need to request original letters printed & posted by the council? no

Thank you so much in advance
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Re: Permanent residence card necessary before applying for citizenship?

Post by London333 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:01 pm

Thank you very much Alter Hase!

I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

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Missing exit stamp in passport

Post by London333 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:43 am

I'm an EEA citizen and have travelled to the UAE in December 2017 and didn't get an exit stamp when I exited. We travelled back through Dubai, does this happen that they forgot to stamp the passport there? Should I mention this in the cover letter?

Many thanks in advance

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Re: Missing exit stamp in passport

Post by khalidhaku » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:18 am

London333 wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:43 am
I'm an EEA citizen and have travelled to the UAE in December 2017 and didn't get an exit stamp when I exited. We travelled back through Dubai, does this happen that they forgot to stamp the passport there? Should I mention this in the cover letter?

Many thanks in advance
The UK do not impose systematic exit controls on departing passengers. You were not "stamped out" because it is currently deemed an unnecessary use of resources. No such exit stamp exists

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Re: Missing exit stamp in passport

Post by aman90 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:32 am

Did you not get an exit stamp from the state you were visiting? Dubai issues exit stamps but not on transit flights. Check flight details/ boarding pass.

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Re: Missing exit stamp in passport

Post by London333 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:36 am

Thank you so much for your replies!

And sorry, I realise I've been a bit unclear.

We travelled from UK to UAE in Dec 2017 and got an UAE entry stamp.
We left the UAE a week later via Dubai Airport and didn't get an exit stamp.

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Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by London333 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:11 pm

I answered "No" to this question: "Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?"

But I have 3 British children.

What do I do now? I could still add this to the cover letter.

Please help!

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Re: Missing exit stamp in passport

Post by London333 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:35 pm

Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?"... I answered "No" to this question.

But I have 3 British children.

What do I do now? I could still add this to the cover letter.

Please help!

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Re: Missing exit stamp in passport

Post by London333 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:36 pm

I think I might have made a mistake in my application.

The question: "Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?"... I answered "No" to this question.

But I have 3 British children.

What do I do now? I could still add this to the cover letter.

Please help!

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