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ILR Application -When did you first enter the UK (Tier 2 General)

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ILR Application -When did you first enter the UK (Tier 2 General)

Post by Leodeen » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:51 am

Hi ImmigrationBoard Team,

My current visa status:
1. Tier 2 (general) Visa granted - [02/12/2014 - 15/12/2019]
2. Entered the UK 13/01/2015 (After 42 days)
3. While under tier 2 visa, changed the Sponsor and granted new visa - [17/08/2015 - 22/09/2019]
4. Extended Tier 2 visa same Sponsor - [20/05/2019 - 13/01/2021]

I would like to get clarifications regarding my ILR Application:
  • Am I eligible to apply for ILR based on my First Sponsor and First visa granted date? (Based 02/12/2014 date I am eligible 28 dates before 02/12/2019. Is this correct? )
  • In ILR application Immigration history section, When did you first enter the UK? Is this 13/01/2015 Physically I entered to the UK date or 02/12/2014 Visa granted date?
  • Have you previously lived in a country outside the UK including your country of birth? Do I need to enter my previous TRAVEL details before tier 2 Visa started (I didn't live other than my motherland before entered to the UK but I traveled some countries prior to the 2/12/2014)
Thanks
Leo.

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Re: ILR Application -When did you first enter the UK (Tier 2 General)

Post by devahere » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:29 pm

Hi Leo,

Regarding your questions, I hope these answers would be helpful to you:
Am I eligible to apply for ILR based on my First Sponsor and First visa granted date? (Based 02/12/2014 date I am eligible 28 dates before 02/12/2019. Is this correct?
The only thing you need from your first employer is the letter with all the absents you been outside the UK, you will need a letter from the current employer who is the main one for your application confirming they still need your services for the foreseeable future stating all the absents as well.
In ILR application Immigration history section, When did you first enter the UK? Is this 13/01/2015 Physically I entered to the UK date or 02/12/2014 Visa granted date?
The date you physically entered the UK which is 13/01/2015
Have you previously lived in a country outside the UK including your country of birth? Do I need to enter my previous TRAVEL details before tier 2 Visa started (I didn't live other than my motherland before entered to the UK but I traveled some countries prior to the 2/12/2014)
I have contacted UKVI about that and they said just enter the rough date of where you lived since you were born, It doesn't have to be the exact dates but it needs to cover all the time since you were born.

Hope this helps!

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Re: ILR Application -When did you first enter the UK (Tier 2 General)

Post by Leodeen » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:08 pm

Hey Devahere,
Thanks for the reply!
  • Still, I am having confusion with ILR eligible date. Can I apply for the ILR 28 days before 02/12/2019 (After 4/11/2019) or is it 28 days before 13/01/2020 (After 05/12/2019)?
  • If I use Entered the UK date as of 13/01/2015, does my 5-year calculation started from 13/01/2015 without considering the initial visa issued date of 04/12/2014?
Thanks
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Post by CR001 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:11 pm

You are confusing two different things completely.
  • Still, I am having confusion with ILR eligible date. Can I apply for the ILR 28 days before 02/12/2019 (After 4/11/2019) or is it 28 days before 13/01/2020 (After 05/12/2019)?
You can apply no sooner than within 28 days before the INITIAL START date of your visa.
  • If I use Entered the UK date as of 13/01/2015, does my 5-year calculation started from 13/01/2015 without considering the initial visa issued date of 04/12/2014?
No!! HO do actually know the rules.
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Re: ILR Application -When did you first enter the UK (Tier 2 General)

Post by devahere » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:18 pm

Still, I am having confusion with ILR eligible date. Can I apply for the ILR 28 days before 02/12/2019 (After 4/11/2019) or is it 28 days before 13/01/2020 (After 05/12/2019)?
It's counted from the day that your first leave has been granted which is 04/12/2014 so I would suggest that you apply by 10/Nov/19 to be on the safe side.
This info are all listed in this guide and you can refer to page 9 which mentioned when you can apply: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 9.0ext.pdf

If I use Entered the UK date as of 13/01/2015, does my 5-year calculation started from 13/01/2015 without considering the initial visa issued date of 04/12/2014?
As above, From the day your visa is issued.

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Post by Leodeen » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:26 pm

Thanks for the reply and to be honest I am not an expert regarding this subject and that is the main reason I am looking for help here.
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:11 pm
You are confusing two different things completely.
  • Still, I am having confusion with ILR eligible date. Can I apply for the ILR 28 days before 02/12/2019 (After 4/11/2019) or is it 28 days before 13/01/2020 (After 05/12/2019)?
You can apply no sooner than within 28 days before the INITIAL START date of your visa.
Can you be more specific regarding your answer? Am I eligible to apply after the 04th of November 2019?

  • If I use Entered the UK date as of 13/01/2015, does my 5-year calculation started from 13/01/2015 without considering the initial visa issued date of 04/12/2014?
No!! HO do actually know the rules.
I read most of the articles in this forum and UK gov sites and I know that the calculation starts from the visa issue date. But there isn't any place to enter the VISA issue date in ILR application. The only information I have to provide in the Application is When did you first enter the UK? This is the date you entered the UK when the period of stay you are basing this application on started. and in my case that is 13/01/2015. If there isn't any mentioned about 02/12/2014 in the application of how my case office knows about my starting date.

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Re: ILR Application -When did you first enter the UK (Tier 2 General)

Post by CR001 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:30 pm

You are confusing two different things completely.
  • Still, I am having confusion with ILR eligible date. Can I apply for the ILR 28 days before 02/12/2019 (After 4/11/2019) or is it 28 days before 13/01/2020 (After 05/12/2019)?
You can apply no sooner than within 28 days before the INITIAL START date of your visa.
Can you be more specific regarding your answer? Am I eligible to apply after the 04th of November 2019?
Initial visa start date MINUS 28 days!

https://www.timeanddate.com/date/datead ... ad=28&rec=
  • If I use Entered the UK date as of 13/01/2015, does my 5-year calculation started from 13/01/2015 without considering the initial visa issued date of 04/12/2014?
No!! HO do actually know the rules.
I read most of the articles in this forum and UK gov sites and I know that the calculation starts from the visa issue date. But there isn't any place to enter the VISA issue date in ILR application. The only information I have to provide in the Application is When did you first enter the UK? This is the date you entered the UK when the period of stay you are basing this application on started. and in my case that is 13/01/2015. If there isn't any mentioned about 02/12/2014 in the application of how my case office knows about my starting date.
You are not required to enter the visa issue date, HO know the rules and will obviously have your full immigration record and your passport copy in front of them when processing your application. The question about date of entry is completely separate to the qualifying period.
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Re: ILR Application -When did you first enter the UK (Tier 2 General)

Post by devahere » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:33 pm

Thimira, They only care about the visas that you have been granted so you definitely can apply for ILR by around 06/Nov/2019 onwards and you don't have to worry as this is 100% correct. You may satisfy yourself more by calling UKVI on 03001232241 and pick option 4 then option 1 and they will confirm all details you want. :)

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Re: ILR Application -When did you first enter the UK (Tier 2 General)

Post by Leodeen » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:49 pm

devahere wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:33 pm
Thimira, They only care about the visas that you have been granted so you definitely can apply for ILR by around 06/Nov/2019 onwards and you don't have to worry as this is 100% correct. You may satisfy yourself more by calling UKVI on 03001232241 and pick option 4 then option 1 and they will confirm all details you want. :)
Thanks for the info! Really appreciated.

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Post by Leodeen » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:50 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:30 pm
You are confusing two different things completely.
  • Still, I am having confusion with ILR eligible date. Can I apply for the ILR 28 days before 02/12/2019 (After 4/11/2019) or is it 28 days before 13/01/2020 (After 05/12/2019)?
You can apply no sooner than within 28 days before the INITIAL START date of your visa.
Can you be more specific regarding your answer? Am I eligible to apply after the 04th of November 2019?
Initial visa start date MINUS 28 days!

https://www.timeanddate.com/date/datead ... ad=28&rec=
  • If I use Entered the UK date as of 13/01/2015, does my 5-year calculation started from 13/01/2015 without considering the initial visa issued date of 04/12/2014?
No!! HO do actually know the rules.
I read most of the articles in this forum and UK gov sites and I know that the calculation starts from the visa issue date. But there isn't any place to enter the VISA issue date in ILR application. The only information I have to provide in the Application is When did you first enter the UK? This is the date you entered the UK when the period of stay you are basing this application on started. and in my case that is 13/01/2015. If there isn't any mentioned about 02/12/2014 in the application of how my case office knows about my starting date.
You are not required to enter the visa issue date, HO know the rules and will obviously have your full immigration record and your passport copy in front of them when processing your application. The question about date of entry is completely separate to the qualifying period.
Thanks for the info! Really appreciated.

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