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ILR to British Citizenship application - Can I still apply if I 'overstayed' in past 10 years

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Overstayed for half a year - out of my control - ILR to NATURALISATION process

Post by daviddavidson » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:59 pm

Hi there,

I have a complex situation and was wondering if any of you could suggest to me what I should do next.

I entered UK legally in 2007 as a student. I then continuously and legally lived here for 10 years as a student. After the 10 year mark, in 2017 I applied for another student visa for my masters degree. That application was submitted in-time but was later refused because I failed to submit a document by accident. But by the time my refusal letter came back the visa I was currently on expired.

Within days of the refusal I applied for ILR via the 10 year route. As far as I'm aware I was an overstayer after my student visa was refused.

Half a year later in the summer of 2018 my ILR was granted to me. Soon it will have been a year since my ILR was approved and I was wondering what my chances are of obtaining citizenship?

I know that the half a year gap before my ILR was granted will look bad for my 'good character' criteria. But that overstaying gap was out of my control, I followed the correct steps in order to obtain my student visa and my application was in-time. I did not know it will be refused.

Aside from this I have always paid my taxes, never missed any bill payments, I'm not in debt, never had trouble with the law.

Is there any point in even spending over £1500 on legal advice and application fees? What are the chances for discretion by the home office?

Thank you so much

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Re: Overstayed for half a year - out of my control - ILR to NATURALISATION process

Post by secret.simon » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:44 pm

daviddavidson wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:59 pm
That application was submitted in-time but was later refused
If you still have the refusal letter with you, can you check if your application was refused or declared invalid? There is a difference between the two terms which may be crucial.
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Re: Overstayed for half a year - out of my control - ILR to NATURALISATION process

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:54 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:44 pm
daviddavidson wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:59 pm
That application was submitted in-time but was later refused
If you still have the refusal letter with you, can you check if your application was refused or declared invalid? There is a difference between the two terms which may be crucial.
Appears to have been refused for not submitting specific supporting documents.

indefinite-leave-to-remain/urgent-help- ... l#p1562302

And ILR refused in 2017 December for being over the absence limit.

indefinite-leave-to-remain/10-years-lon ... l#p1577125
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Re: Overstayed for half a year - out of my control - ILR to NATURALISATION process

Post by London22 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:16 am

Hello
You should apply for BC ,I dont think you have actually overstayed.Time during your student visa application and ILR application was legal otherwise HO wouldnt have granted you ILR and declared you overstayer doesnt matter if you have spent 10 yrs legally .This overstayer rule is bothering many people.It actually is an abuse of power.

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Re: Overstayed for half a year - out of my control - ILR to NATURALISATION process

Post by daviddavidson » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:27 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:44 pm
daviddavidson wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:59 pm
That application was submitted in-time but was later refused
If you still have the refusal letter with you, can you check if your application was refused or declared invalid? There is a difference between the two terms which may be crucial.
it was refused due to not disclosing supporting documents

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ILR to British Citizenship application - Can I still apply if I 'overstayed' in past 10 years

Post by daviddavidson » Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:08 pm

Hi there again,

I posted this previously but I wanted to see if anyone else could help me this time

I have a complex situation and was wondering if any of you could suggest to me what I should do next.

I entered UK legally in 2007 as a student. I then continuously and legally lived here for 10 years as a student. After the 10 year mark, in 2017 I applied for another student visa for my masters degree. That application was submitted in-time but was later refused because I failed to submit a document by accident. But by the time my refusal letter came back the current visa I was on already expired.

Within days of the refusal of my masters visa I applied for ILR via the 10 year route. Does it make me an overstayer if I made an 'in-time' application, but the application was rejected so I became in 'breach' during that time?

ILR was then granted in June 2018.

I assume that half a year awaiting my ILR counts as overstaying?

I know that the half a year gap before my ILR was granted will look bad for my 'good character' criteria. But that overstaying gap was out of my control, I followed the correct steps in order to obtain my student visa and my application was in-time. I did not know it will be refused.

Aside from this I have always paid my taxes, never missed any bill payments, I'm not in debt, never had trouble with the law.

Is there any point in even spending over £1500 on legal advice and application fees? What are the chances for discretion by the home office?

Thank you so much

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Re: ILR to British Citizenship application - Can I still apply if I 'overstayed' in past 10 years

Post by CR001 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:27 pm

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Re: ILR to British Citizenship application - Can I still apply if I 'overstayed' in past 10 years

Post by daviddavidson » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:03 pm

Thank you for helping me with merging the two

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Re: ILR to British Citizenship application - Can I still apply if I 'overstayed' in past 10 years

Post by daviddavidson » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:13 pm

Hi

Can anyone advise?

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Re: ILR to British Citizenship application - Can I still apply if I 'overstayed' in past 10 years

Post by aman90 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:38 pm

You made in time applications.. protected by 3C and 39E.
No overstay.

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