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Travel outside UK when citizenship application under process

Post by SidG » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:08 am

Hi Folks
Will be applying for citizenship on 24Dec'19 (exactly one year after ILR), didn't realized that we have already booked holiday from 28Dec-8Jan outside UK. Can i travel on my Indian passport while my british citizenship application pending?
Can't delay my application either as will be overshooting max 90 days criteria outside UK during last 1 yr!
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Re: Travel outside UK when citizenship application under process

Post by CR001 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:18 am

You are free to travel once you have applied and enrolled biometrics.
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Re: Travel outside UK when citizenship application under process

Post by SidG » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:51 pm

Hello CR001

Small clarification please, submit online application on 24Dec'19 and booked biometrics for 5 Jan'20, can i travel outside UK between these dates before biometrics?

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Re: Travel outside UK when citizenship application under process

Post by CR001 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:28 pm

You could, but then your form won't be accurate with your absences.
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Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by SidG » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:38 pm

Hello Guys

Planning to submit online citizenship application on 24Dec'19, say if bio-metrics is appointment is say on 5th Jan'20, can i travel outside UK from 25th Dec onwards? Actually booked a holiday from 27th dec onwards hence asking!
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Re: Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by CR001 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:49 pm

Topics merged!!! Didnt I already answer your question???

Why not simply wait till you return and then apply so that your absence in the form is accurate??
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Re: Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by SidG » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:07 pm

Hi CR001

Can't wait till 5Jan'19 to apply, on 24th Dec'19 i'll be having exactly 99 days outside of UK during last 1 year as i travel frequently for work . As per guidelines note, up to 90 days is permissible with 10 days discretion allowed if meeting not more than 450 days in last 5 years criteria (which i'm meeting). So have to apply on 24th Dec'19 when i'm getting eligible. Now problem is i've already booked by holidays between 27Dec-4Jan and that's the reason for this..
And Sorry, i missed your earlier reply on same.

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Re: Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by CR001 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:09 pm

Ho can disregard absence of up to 110 days.
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Re: Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by obormot » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:15 pm

I am under the impression that the date of application is when you submit it online and receive acknowledgement, not the date when you do biometric.
So any trips after that confirmation email do not count.
Is not it the case?

So, if you apply on 23/12 and get email with confirmation on, say, 25/12, then 25/12 is the application date.

Myself, I applied on 25/08, got confirmation email on 26/08, and biometrics on 11/09. And I traveled out of UK in between, on 28-30/08.
My application just was approved.
I did not mention that last travel, was it wrong in any way? (and by the way I had 112 days out of UK in last year even without that trip - but practically all was work travel)

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Re: Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by CR001 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:24 pm

obormot wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:15 pm
I am under the impression that the date of application is when you submit it online and receive acknowledgement, not the date when you do biometric.
So any trips after that confirmation email do not count.
Is not it the case?

So, if you apply on 23/12 and get email with confirmation on, say, 25/12, then 25/12 is the application date.

Myself, I applied on 25/08, got confirmation email on 26/08, and biometrics on 11/09. And I traveled out of UK in between, on 28-30/08.
My application just was approved.
I did not mention that last travel, was it wrong in any way? (and by the way I had 112 days out of UK in last year even without that trip - but practically all was work travel)
Apologies yes, you are correct.
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Re: Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by SidG » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:35 pm

obormot wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:15 pm
I am under the impression that the date of application is when you submit it online and receive acknowledgement, not the date when you do biometric.
So any trips after that confirmation email do not count.
Is not it the case?

So, if you apply on 23/12 and get email with confirmation on, say, 25/12, then 25/12 is the application date.

Myself, I applied on 25/08, got confirmation email on 26/08, and biometrics on 11/09. And I traveled out of UK in between, on 28-30/08.
My application just was approved.
I did not mention that last travel, was it wrong in any way? (and by the way I had 112 days out of UK in last year even without that trip - but practically all was work travel)
Hi Obormot
Congrats on your citizenship, did you submit any letter from your employers stating that 112 out of UK is work travel?
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Re: Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by obormot » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:53 pm

Yes I did - a letter from employer listing all work related trips abroad in last 5 years and explaining in detail that this travel was essential for my job (I am in academia)

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Re: Travel outside UK between Online form submission & bio-metrics

Post by SidG » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:55 pm

obormot wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:53 pm
Yes I did - a letter from employer listing all work related trips abroad in last 5 years and explaining in detail that this travel was essential for my job (I am in academia)
Thanks Obormot for confirming, i'm planning to do the same...

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end to end timelines for naturalization

Post by SidG » Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:05 pm

Dear Friends
Probably some of my queries has been answered before but i couldn't find answer in previous threads hence asking again (please pardon me for that). I'll be eligible for submitting my BC application on 23Dec'19 (exactly 365th day of getting ILR), with following questions:
1. After submitting application, how early one can get appointment for bio metrics with Sopra? I believe after paying £200 one can get premium appointment - can i get same day/next day through this?
2. Is there any super urgent/premium decision service available for extra charge like the one which is available for ILR (3days/72hrs decision)? Or if there is no premium appointment possible?
3. If not, then what's the standard timeline for getting decision from HO after application submission/bio-metrics?
4. Once positive decision is received, how can i expedite naturalization certificate/Oath with my council?
5. And lastly can i apply for British passport after getting decision from UKVI or i have to wait for Oath ceremony with council before applying.
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Re: end to end timelines for naturalization

Post by CR001 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:39 pm

1. How early or soon you can get an appointment depends ok n availability and where you are located.

2. No. There is only standard service for citizenship.

3. It can take from a few weeks up to 6 months, sometime longer.

4. Depends on how often your council has public ceremonies and how busy they are. Some councils have two a week, others have one a week etc. You can do a private ceremony which costs about £200 more but prices vary from council to council.

5. You are only British once you attend your ceremony. You can therefore only apply for a passport once you are British. And approval letter is just that, a letter.
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Absence >90days from UK in last 12months

Post by SidG » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:19 pm

obormot wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:53 pm
Yes I did - a letter from employer listing all work related trips abroad in last 5 years and explaining in detail that this travel was essential for my job (I am in academia)
Hi Obormot/Others

Mine is also 98 days absence in last 12 months (all due to work travel), what did you select in Residence requirement - Yes or No? I've 440 days during last 5 yrs (or well within 450 absence criteria) however last 12 months it's 98 days instead of 90days so what should i select- yes or no?

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Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by SidG » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:28 pm

Hi Folks
I've 98 absence from UK during last 12 months against 90 days criteria, however last 5 years it's 440 days absence against 450 allowed .Most of this travel is for work as working with British multinational company. Will obviously provide detailed letter from the employer for this however my question is, while filling up Online form for naturalization what should i select for residency requirement - Yes or No?
Meeting absences during last 5 years criteria but not meeting last 12 months criteria, pointers from somebody who has similar circumstances and application successful?
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Re: Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by Typa75 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:46 pm

I had 93 days absence during the last 12 months.

I selected I didnt meet the residency requirement. So I explained that I travel for work, listed all my work travel details. I got my application approved. No questions asked.

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Re: Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by SidG » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:04 pm

Typa75 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:46 pm
I had 93 days absence during the last 12 months.

I selected I didnt meet the residency requirement. So I explained that I travel for work, listed all my work travel details. I got my application approved. No questions asked.

Good luck.
Thanks Typa75, did you meet 450 absence days during last 5 years criteria or were you over 450 days?

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Re: Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by CR001 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:07 pm

SidG wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:28 pm
Hi Folks
I've 98 absence from UK during last 12 months against 90 days criteria, however last 5 years it's 440 days absence against 450 allowed .Most of this travel is for work as working with British multinational company. Will obviously provide detailed letter from the employer for this however my question is, while filling up Online form for naturalization what should i select for residency requirement - Yes or No?
Meeting absences during last 5 years criteria but not meeting last 12 months criteria, pointers from somebody who has similar circumstances and application successful?
Thanks
Topics merged!!!! Is my previous post unclear??

You have also already bee advised about your absence question. Starting a new topic won't change the answer.
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Re: Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by SidG » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:35 am

CR001 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:07 pm
SidG wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:28 pm
Hi Folks
I've 98 absence from UK during last 12 months against 90 days criteria, however last 5 years it's 440 days absence against 450 allowed .Most of this travel is for work as working with British multinational company. Will obviously provide detailed letter from the employer for this however my question is, while filling up Online form for naturalization what should i select for residency requirement - Yes or No?
Meeting absences during last 5 years criteria but not meeting last 12 months criteria, pointers from somebody who has similar circumstances and application successful?
Thanks
Topics merged!!!! Is my previous post unclear??

You have also already bee advised about your absence question. Starting a new topic won't change the answer.
I'm sorry CR001 but didn't get my question! All i'm asking is what to fill in the nnline form -yes or no regarding residency requirements (absences) as i'm not meeting last 12 months criteria while meeting last 5 yrs criteria!

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Re: Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by CR001 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:01 am

You are overthinking this whole process.

Absence letter from employer is NOT required and will be disregarded.

Your absence in the last 12 months is MINIMALLY above the limit and has already been advised when you asked previously, absences of 110 days in the last 12 months are usually ok.

The residency question is not a trick question either, you simply answer yes.
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Re: Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by Typa75 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:09 am

SidG wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:04 pm
Typa75 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:46 pm
I had 93 days absence during the last 12 months.

I selected I didnt meet the residency requirement. So I explained that I travel for work, listed all my work travel details. I got my application approved. No questions asked.

Good luck.
Thanks Typa75, did you meet 450 absence days during last 5 years criteria or were you over 450 days?
Yes I did. I was absent 390 days in the last 5 years. But 93 days during the last 12 months. I still chose that I did not meet the requirements. (As I was over 3 days in the last 12 months)

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Re: Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by SidG » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:29 am

Typa75 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:09 am
SidG wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:04 pm
Typa75 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:46 pm
I had 93 days absence during the last 12 months.

I selected I didnt meet the residency requirement. So I explained that I travel for work, listed all my work travel details. I got my application approved. No questions asked.

Good luck.
Thanks Typa75, did you meet 450 absence days during last 5 years criteria or were you over 450 days?
Yes I did. I was absent 390 days in the last 5 years. But 93 days during the last 12 months. I still chose that I did not meet the requirements. (As I was over 3 days in the last 12 months)
Thank you again, will do the same than!

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Re: Absence >90days from UK in last 12months, however last 5 yrs 440 days

Post by SidG » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:21 pm

Typa75 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:09 am
SidG wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:04 pm
Typa75 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:46 pm
I had 93 days absence during the last 12 months.

I selected I didnt meet the residency requirement. So I explained that I travel for work, listed all my work travel details. I got my application approved. No questions asked.

Good luck.
Thanks Typa75, did you meet 450 absence days during last 5 years criteria or were you over 450 days?
Yes I did. I was absent 390 days in the last 5 years. But 93 days during the last 12 months. I still chose that I did not meet the requirements. (As I was over 3 days in the last 12 months)
Hello Typa75/Obormot
I'm finalizing my online form now, in the "do you meet residence requirement" i have selected "NO" as 99 days absence during last 12 months however there are two more questions in the online form below residence requirements as follows:
"Are there any reasons why you cannot meet the requirements to become a British citizen (for example, you have had too many absences from the UK)?" and "Please confirm which requirement(s) you think you fail to meet and what special circumstances should be considered"- what should be select here- yes or no as already selected No for meeting residence requirements- to me all three questions are same unless i'm getting this wrong. If you remember what you have filled in online form would be of great help!
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