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You are already an Irish citizen as you are the child of a person born on the Island of Ireland prior to 2005. Your father being born in Northern Ireland makes no difference for this, though it may also entitle you to UK citizenship. You can skip the FBR route and apply for an Irish passport directly.inalaska2 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:16 amNew to the board. I am, like you, interested in obtaining Irish Citizenship. I have read the webpage on FBR on the DFA website, but i still have questions. other than calling the phone number on the page, is there another place one can get information? is there an FAQ, etc?
My confusion is this. My father was born in Northern Ireland and left there after WW2 and eventually became an American citizen. I was born after. If i apply for Irish citizenship am I able to do it thru my dad or do i have to go back to his parents, my grandparents. my dad and his parents were born in Northern Ireland.
appreciate thoughts and insight. i've read about the backlog and delays and was hoping to find some similar situations i could read up on before i begin the process.
thanks.
erin
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from the web site:
Eligibility
You are automatically an Irish citizen if one of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, and was born on the island of Ireland. You don't need to apply to become an Irish citizen in this case.
If you were born outside of Ireland, you can become an Irish citizen if:
One of your grandparents was born in Ireland, or;
One of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, even though they were not born in Ireland.
Say thanks to your boss for us! I was looking back at old threads and I reread that there was some kind of delay in applications that were submitted at the embassy in London (and potentially others, not sure) and they ended up being sent to dublin for processing en masse in 1 big batch. I found a post that said someone who submitted in London in Sept 18 got a confirmation of docs received in Dublin on 11 March. So by that logic anyone who got docs received after that date might be behind a huge backlog of apps! (Me included)seanhodges wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:30 amIncidentally, my boss was getting jealous because he thought we applied at the same time, but he just tracked down his email and realised he didn't get his application in until April. I persuaded him to ring up and he learned that the delay has extended again after March, so he now faces a month or two before they get to his application.
Hang in there everyone - the team are working through a mountain of paper
Hi jgclancy-- My app/docs arrived in Dublin on Feb 4, 2020. I forgot to include my and my siblings application numbers on the outside of the packaging. Have you heard anything about this being a big problem?jgclancy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:26 amYou pay for it first. Then print the application form.Then you have to finish filling it out & getting witness to sign/date/stamp (or add witnesses business card) etc....just follow the instructions.cdcd2cs2ds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:51 pmDo I pay the 300 Euro application free, then print out the application form with my witness' signature to send along with the rest of the documents?
Or is the 300 to be paid after the documents have been sent?
It just confuses me why it says I need to have collected all the documents before completing the application form online.
They WANT you to have everything else ready. ALL birth,marriage & death certs///photos made ///mailing address docs///I.D.copies should be done. They say this so you can get it all to them soon. If,let's say, you fill it out then can't get a document for whatever reason it slows it all down. The process really doesn't start until they receive your document package with everything it.
Remember to write down the exact application # on the outside of packaging too. It's small but it is on the application.Make a copy of EVERYTHING to keep too.
Good Luck...jgclancy
I don't know what they do or how they process things. I assume they'll just look inside and find the numbers on the applications. Probably, not a big deal. I've always assumed they just added the application number to a list then put all the paperwork on a shelf until they get to it. If they sent you an email they received your application you're fine. If not then I'd wait a week then call them. Can't hurt to check.
Jordann26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:22 pmHi jgclancy-- My app/docs arrived in Dublin on Feb 4, 2020. I forgot to include my and my siblings application numbers on the outside of the packaging. Have you heard anything about this being a big problem?jgclancy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:26 amYou pay for it first. Then print the application form.Then you have to finish filling it out & getting witness to sign/date/stamp (or add witnesses business card) etc....just follow the instructions.cdcd2cs2ds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:51 pmDo I pay the 300 Euro application free, then print out the application form with my witness' signature to send along with the rest of the documents?
Or is the 300 to be paid after the documents have been sent?
It just confuses me why it says I need to have collected all the documents before completing the application form online.
They WANT you to have everything else ready. ALL birth,marriage & death certs///photos made ///mailing address docs///I.D.copies should be done. They say this so you can get it all to them soon. If,let's say, you fill it out then can't get a document for whatever reason it slows it all down. The process really doesn't start until they receive your document package with everything it.
Remember to write down the exact application # on the outside of packaging too. It's small but it is on the application.Make a copy of EVERYTHING to keep too.
Good Luck...jgclancy
Just need one grandparent born in Ireland. Grandparent does NOT have to be alive when you or your brother were born. My grandfather died 4 years before I was born.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:06 pmHi
Question about eligibility.
My grandad was born in mayo, he married my nana in Glasgow, my mum was then born in Glasgow. I was also born in Glasgow before my grandad died. So my mums Irish passport application is currently being processed Via the online option. once she gets all the birth certs/docs back I’ll then reuse them to apply for my FBR.
My question is
My youngest brother was born a month after my grandad died. Can he apply for FBR? Is he still eligible?
I don’t know why, but I always assumed that the grandparent and grandchild both had to be alive at the same time for FBR to be a possibility
Death certificates are known to have erroneous information. You should just check divorced. You can add a letter explaining the discrepancy.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:17 pm2nd question regarding FBR
My grandads Irish death cert said his marital status was ‘widowed’, which isn’t true, he and my nana actually divorced, he moved back to Ireland and she ultimately outlived him by 10 years or so.
When the FBR application asks about the grandparent, it asks his marital status but only gives options for ‘married, single or divorced’.
So he was technically divorced but his death certificate says widowed, which is obviously quite conflicting. What should I enter and will it matter much to my application. ?
Great newsjgclancy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:19 pmJust need one grandparent born in Ireland. Grandparent does NOT have to be alive when you or your brother were born. My grandfather died 4 years before I was born.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:06 pmHi
Question about eligibility.
My grandad was born in mayo, he married my nana in Glasgow, my mum was then born in Glasgow. I was also born in Glasgow before my grandad died. So my mums Irish passport application is currently being processed Via the online option. once she gets all the birth certs/docs back I’ll then reuse them to apply for my FBR.
My question is
My youngest brother was born a month after my grandad died. Can he apply for FBR? Is he still eligible?
I don’t know why, but I always assumed that the grandparent and grandchild both had to be alive at the same time for FBR to be a possibility
On a different note- if someone obtains Irish citizenship now through a grandparent they cannot pass it on to any children born before they obtained citizenship via FBR.
jgclancy
Ok, I will dojgclancy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:30 pmDeath certificates are known to have erroneous information. You should just check divorced. You can add a letter explaining the discrepancy.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:17 pm2nd question regarding FBR
My grandads Irish death cert said his marital status was ‘widowed’, which isn’t true, he and my nana actually divorced, he moved back to Ireland and she ultimately outlived him by 10 years or so.
When the FBR application asks about the grandparent, it asks his marital status but only gives options for ‘married, single or divorced’.
So he was technically divorced but his death certificate says widowed, which is obviously quite conflicting. What should I enter and will it matter much to my application. ?
jgclancy
Just FYI - you and your brother can apply at the same time and both use the same documents for your grandparent & parent. Just need separate application forms & each of your individual documents. Best to
Thanksjgclancy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:54 pmJust FYI - you and your brother can apply at the same time and both use the same documents for your grandparent & parent. Just need separate application forms & each of your individual documents. Best to
put everybody's documents into separate well labeled folders( put both of your application numbers on the outside of package as well)
Good luck -- jgclancy
Hi, I would encourage you to try and convince your brother submit an application with yours, it makes sense on so many levels. I’ve done the same with my younger brother. One envelope and set of documents, which can be witnessed and stamped at the same time. As others have noted the only thing he needs to do is complete an application form.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:25 pmThanksjgclancy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:54 pmJust FYI - you and your brother can apply at the same time and both use the same documents for your grandparent & parent. Just need separate application forms & each of your individual documents. Best to
put everybody's documents into separate well labeled folders( put both of your application numbers on the outside of package as well)
Good luck -- jgclancy
I don’t think he’ll bother doing it for a while. It’s easy £300 between the FBR & passport. But as I say I’m all set to go when my mum gets all her docs back from her passport application
I will spk to him about it.PD9 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:27 pmHi, I would encourage you to try and convince your brother submit an application with yours, it makes sense on so many levels. I’ve done the same with my younger brother. One envelope and set of documents, which can be witnessed and stamped at the same time. As others have noted the only thing he needs to do is complete an application form.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:25 pmThanksjgclancy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:54 pmJust FYI - you and your brother can apply at the same time and both use the same documents for your grandparent & parent. Just need separate application forms & each of your individual documents. Best to
put everybody's documents into separate well labeled folders( put both of your application numbers on the outside of package as well)
Good luck -- jgclancy
I don’t think he’ll bother doing it for a while. It’s easy £300 between the FBR & passport. But as I say I’m all set to go when my mum gets all her docs back from her passport application
In terms of time, he would be saving at least 1 year sending it with yours and ensures the documents are back with your family after ~12 months and not going out again for another year.
Hey!Iamsouthy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:51 amWell, I'm quickly coming up on the 1 year mark since my application was received in Dublin (sent from Toronto). I was emailed Feb 19, 2019 saying everything was recieved and nothing since. This is ridiculous how people from March 2019 are receiving theirs before mine. Maybe there is a bias against Canadians? Haha.
I was originally told Dec 2019 back in May 2019 from a phone call to Dublin. So who knows when I'll get mine.
I have a job offer march 25th from Germany and I need to prove my Irish citizenship showing I'm a EU citizen.
Side note, has anyone tries getting their FBR faster by trying to use FedEx or express shipping? Id rather not wait 1 month to receive my certificate. With FedEx it would take 5 days or so to Toronto..
I believe it is in the Irish constitution and would therefore require a referendum to remove.
On the propossed referendum on voting , it is only for the presidential election and not for the general election. No date has yet been set for thisseanhodges wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:54 amI believe it is in the Irish constitution and would therefore require a referendum to remove.
It's also in the constitution that non-resident Irish nationals (what we are hoping to become!) have no entitlement to vote in national elections, so the huge numbers of us new-irish can have no impact on their national politics.
Your brother is eligible. There's no requirement for the grandparent to be living.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:06 pmHi
Question about eligibility.
My grandad was born in mayo, he married my nana in Glasgow, my mum was then born in Glasgow. I was also born in Glasgow before my grandad died. So my mums Irish passport application is currently being processed Via the online option. once she gets all the birth certs/docs back I’ll then reuse them to apply for my FBR.
My question is
My youngest brother was born a month after my grandad died. Can he apply for FBR? Is he still eligible?
I don’t know why, but I always assumed that the grandparent and grandchild both had to be alive at the same time for FBR to be a possibility
Quick update on thisjgclancy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:30 pmDeath certificates are known to have erroneous information. You should just check divorced. You can add a letter explaining the discrepancy.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:17 pm2nd question regarding FBR
My grandads Irish death cert said his marital status was ‘widowed’, which isn’t true, he and my nana actually divorced, he moved back to Ireland and she ultimately outlived him by 10 years or so.
When the FBR application asks about the grandparent, it asks his marital status but only gives options for ‘married, single or divorced’.
So he was technically divorced but his death certificate says widowed, which is obviously quite conflicting. What should I enter and will it matter much to my application. ?
jgclancy
MKCG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:09 pmQuick update on thisjgclancy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:30 pmDeath certificates are known to have erroneous information. You should just check divorced. You can add a letter explaining the discrepancy.MKCG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:17 pm2nd question regarding FBR
My grandads Irish death cert said his marital status was ‘widowed’, which isn’t true, he and my nana actually divorced, he moved back to Ireland and she ultimately outlived him by 10 years or so.
When the FBR application asks about the grandparent, it asks his marital status but only gives options for ‘married, single or divorced’.
So he was technically divorced but his death certificate says widowed, which is obviously quite conflicting. What should I enter and will it matter much to my application. ?
jgclancy
We have found the divorce decree. It’s £32 for an original copy from Edinburgh Supreme Court.
Do you think it’s worthy to buy it & put into in the application pack with an explanation note, or rather our lack of explanation as to how it’s incorrect. Because we genuinely don’t know why it says widowed. He was estranged for a long time to my gran and my mother at the time of his death. But all his family in mayo are adamant that he never remarried.
Although that being said, Whether he was divorced or widowed I don’t see how it changes anything in relation to line of descent.
It’s Just conflicting the death certificate slightly and he obviously wasn’t alive to amend it.
