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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by CR001 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:59 pm

Present1 wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:51 pm
Zerubbabel wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:26 pm

As you are a refugee, I dare to hope that the UK saved your life in first place. So if you have any human right claim, I recommend you pursue these efforts against the country you came from.
Very clear message to Refugees from someone who worked for the welfare of Refugees.

(You all lied about persecution or fear of persecution, UK didn't save you from persecution. Go back to the people who are persecuting you and claim your rights from them. You shouldn't claim rights or question any thing here)
That is actually not what the user said or implied. You have merely misinterpreted what was posted.
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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Present1 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:20 pm

I hope its a misinterpretation from my side, Otherwise its a very scary picture.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by CR001 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:23 pm

Present1 wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:20 pm
I hope its a misinterpretation from my side, Otherwise its a very scary picture.
Misinterpreted. The user said to pursue claims AGAINST the country field from. Not Go back to the country.
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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Oria » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:43 pm

Zerubbabel wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:26 pm
Call me heartless but this kind of posts and the associated claims make me smile.

Many of us here, including myself, are non-EEA and we know how it works elsewhere in the world. Where I came from, there are refugees living there for 3 or 4 generations and none of them, including their descendants born there, got the citizenship. They don't get residences but just A4 documents they can show the police in case they are controlled in the street but if they leave the country, they won't be allowed back.

I worked as a volunteer for Amnesty International and similar organisations for a while. One of my last assignments was to work on a case of 4000 people who came to disappear during a civil war in Africa. With some of the parents who could make it to Geneva, we organised a protest and read their names on loudspeakers near the broken chair in front of the UN building.

So if the UK takes 15 months to process your citizenship application, I don't see a strong human right case that can trigger the interest of international organisations.

As you may already know, the asylum system is abused and became a classic immigration route for many people who don't qualify under other venues. I don't like that because I have seen a lot of people under genuine threat due to their ethnicity or religion being unable to get asylum as the system is clogged with immigration candidates with bogus stories. I for one believe that authorities must make and end to that abuse otherwise it will destroy the asylum system. That system is not there to allow some to live in fancy countries, or get visa-free travel to interesting countries, or a joker card for immigration. It's there to save lives of people who can genuinely end up in mass graves of no fault of their own. This is not yet another immigration route.

When there was a war / genocide in Rwanda (1994), people from all Africa claimed asylum by telling authorities they came from Rwanda. Many of these, when they didn't get a response by 1998, ran to the asylum offices changing their stories and claiming they actually came from Eritrea as another war was starting there.

This takes us back to your citizenship application. When someone comes from an organised country such as Germany, Koweit or Japan, it's easier to ascertain the identity of the applicant to the level required for citizenship. When people come from places that are not so organised, there is a risk for the Home Office / Secretary of State. The risk is to sign a naturalisation certificate for someone then realising years later that the person participated in genocide or similar activities then claimed asylum under forged or stolen identity. That would be a major embarrassment for the UK.

As you are a refugee, I dare to hope that the UK saved your life in first place. So if you have any human right claim, I recommend you pursue these efforts against the country you came from.

Dear Zerub,
It is hard to get anything from your statement apart from a strong dislike of the refugees. Applicant's of other backgrounds e.g. spouses of B. Citizens are clearly immune from these checks that you have indicated, possible involvement in genocide or other crimes.
Among the refugee applicants are people with clear backgrounds - people who worked with the UK Gov and other International partners and who have studied in the UK before and are all clear from every perspective, and yet they have to wait indefinitely.

While a spouse of a UK citizen's application (who applied and came from the same country as the Refugee) is awarded citizenship within less than 2 months time.
What is the difference between the two? I am talking of general logic and rationale! As a refugees who arrived in the UK with a valid UK visa and a clear past immigration history, who has studied in the UK and has a background that is all clear back in his home country and is very well known to the UK Gov and international community for his work with the int. development organisations including for the UK government's development agencies overseas.
And if all was not clear, the UK would’t have issued him with long term visas. I personally arrived in the UK with a visa and had valid multi-entry visa for the USA. Also held a UN passport with witch I could have traveled to any EU countries without any need for visas.

So let us not generalise and put everyone in the same basket or single out refugees for these stringent checks. Clearly, there is a difference in the way applicants are treated. Like I’ve noted, if it’s about checks they must apply to everyone equally, and not link refugees to genocide or criminality. How about a criminal who married a B Citizen and got his citizenship in less than two months? Does that not bring no shame?

By word difference above, I mean discrimination. It exist and it’s a sad reality. I don’t know wether it’s the Home Office or at the levels of those so called “external agencies” who conduct whatever checks. Some of the statements in the quote above is very disappointing as it’s apparently from someone who is dealing with immigration matters. Very unfortunate. I wish it was more for justice, equality, harmony and respect and above all for humanity. We share the same pain and sorrow and must be united for humanity’s sake. COVID19 is the best example. I hope you survive it Zurebbabel.

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Carry out a random act of kindness, with no expectation of reward, safe in the knowledge that one day someone might do the same for you.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Danbet » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:04 pm

Hi Oria. Thank you for your reply.
I emailed them on Tuesday June 2 and they replied on Friday. I only had one travel history (to EU country)in 7 years. I know I have clear record. I don't even have a speeding ticket. I know a couple of friends who received their approval just before the lockdown after waiting for 10 months. In our case , unfortunately,Covid-19 make things worst. Being optimist and waiting positively is the only solution. However, I am very surprised with some users on here who trying to put wood on refugees wound. We know naturalisation is not an automatic procedure and considered as a privilege. We are not saying that the backgroud checks and the procedure is violating human rights. It is about the service standard. we applied according to the requirement. We pays the same amount of money. But, we are waiting ore than double of the standard time limit. Moreover, there is no clear explanation and response other than a generic email. So its about fairness. we are not demanding a special treatment. Dont try to tell us about wrong asylum claimants and so on .... HO have complex system... we have to go through a lot of procedure to get the citizenship application point. If they get anything to hold a your case they will.... I know some people who lost their refugee status after being granted. So we know UK has strict citizenship law... we respect that .. but we are demanding the same service standard... I know cases could be different...But at least it does have to take such time lne difference.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Present1 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:48 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:23 pm
Present1 wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:20 pm
I hope its a misinterpretation from my side, Otherwise its a very scary picture.
Misinterpreted. The user said to pursue claims AGAINST the country field from. Not Go back to the country.
Lets leave the interpretation to the readers or perhaps the writer can clarify it themselves.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by CR001 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:50 pm

Present1 wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:48 pm
CR001 wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:23 pm
Present1 wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:20 pm
I hope its a misinterpretation from my side, Otherwise its a very scary picture.
Misinterpreted. The user said to pursue claims AGAINST the country field from. Not Go back to the country.
Lets leave the interpretation to the readers or perhaps the writer can clarify it themselves.
It was written in perfectly straightforward normal English!!
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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Present1 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:48 pm

Do I have to say, Yes Sir!!

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by ariskar » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:30 pm

My spouse timeline. Approval, July 2019 application. 10.5 months processing time.

Some positive news at last. :D Good luck to those waiting... :roll:
Eligibility criteria: ILR refugee settlement + ILR: EU Settled status + BC spouse (I know it is rare combo)
Language Criteria: UK university post-graduate degree
Nationality : Non-EU
Method of application: Online + UKVCAS
Date of application: 23/07/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 24/07/2019
Date biometrics enrolled: 26/07/2019 (UKVCAS Croydon + document scanning)
Date on Approval letter: 02/06/2020
Date of receipt of approval: 10/06/2020
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: Covid,,, waiting
Date of Ceremony: -Covid,,, waiting
Date of Passport Application: -
Date of debit of fees: -
Date Passport received: -

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Sous49 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:35 pm

ariskar wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:30 pm
My spouse timeline. Approval, July 2019 application. 10.5 months processing time.

Some positive news at last. :D Good luck to those waiting... :roll:
Eligibility criteria: ILR refugee settlement + ILR: EU Settled status + BC spouse (I know it is rare combo)
Language Criteria: UK university post-graduate degree
Nationality : Non-EU
Method of application: Online + UKVCAS
Date of application: 23/07/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 24/07/2019
Date biometrics enrolled: 26/07/2019 (UKVCAS Croydon + document scanning)
Date on Approval letter: 02/06/2020
Date of receipt of approval: 10/06/2020
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: Covid,,, waiting
Date of Ceremony: -Covid,,, waiting
Date of Passport Application: -
Date of debit of fees: -
Date Passport received: -
Many congratulations for your spouse.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Oria » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:33 am

Dear Ariskar, congratulations. I am very happy for you that you finally got the good news.

Did you email Home Office or they sent you the news by themselves without you asking for an update?

Warmest,

ariskar wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:30 pm
My spouse timeline. Approval, July 2019 application. 10.5 months processing time.

Some positive news at last. :D Good luck to those waiting... :roll:
Eligibility criteria: ILR refugee settlement + ILR: EU Settled status + BC spouse (I know it is rare combo)
Language Criteria: UK university post-graduate degree
Nationality : Non-EU
Method of application: Online + UKVCAS
Date of application: 23/07/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 24/07/2019
Date biometrics enrolled: 26/07/2019 (UKVCAS Croydon + document scanning)
Date on Approval letter: 02/06/2020
Date of receipt of approval: 10/06/2020
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: Covid,,, waiting
Date of Ceremony: -Covid,,, waiting
Date of Passport Application: -
Date of debit of fees: -
Date Passport received: -

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Danbet » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:14 pm

ariskar wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:30 pm
My spouse timeline. Approval, July 2019 application. 10.5 months processing time.

Some positive news at last. :D Good luck to those waiting... :roll:
Eligibility criteria: ILR refugee settlement + ILR: EU Settled status + BC spouse (I know it is rare combo)
Language Criteria: UK university post-graduate degree
Nationality : Non-EU
Method of application: Online + UKVCAS
Date of application: 23/07/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 24/07/2019
Date biometrics enrolled: 26/07/2019 (UKVCAS Croydon + document scanning)
Date on Approval letter: 02/06/2020
Date of receipt of approval: 10/06/2020
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: Covid,,, waiting
Date of Ceremony: -Covid,,, waiting
Date of Passport Application: -
Date of debit of fees: -
Date Passport received: -
Big Congrats Ariskar

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by cm19 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:29 pm

Hi is someone able to offer me advice pls? I had a caseworker requesting evidence I meet language requirements and provided this via email over 5 times in the last 4 weeks. Unfortunately I keep getting further emails from caseworker requesting this same information without acknowledging my previous reply. I am really worried now, I dont know what else to do because I keep emailing the scanned copy but it's like it's not being received, what else can I do there is no way of getting hold of the caseworker on the phone, has anyone experienced this before? And can you advice on best email address to use pls?

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Sous49 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:22 pm

cm19 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:29 pm
Hi is someone able to offer me advice pls? I had a caseworker requesting evidence I meet language requirements and provided this via email over 5 times in the last 4 weeks. Unfortunately I keep getting further emails from caseworker requesting this same information without acknowledging my previous reply. I am really worried now, I dont know what else to do because I keep emailing the scanned copy but it's like it's not being received, what else can I do there is no way of getting hold of the caseworker on the phone, has anyone experienced this before? And can you advice on best email address to use pls?
cm19 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:29 pm
Hi is someone able to offer me advice pls? I had a caseworker requesting evidence I meet language requirements and provided this via email over 5 times in the last 4 weeks. Unfortunately I keep getting further emails from caseworker requesting this same information without acknowledging my previous reply. I am really worried now, I dont know what else to do because I keep emailing the scanned copy but it's like it's not being received, what else can I do there is no way of getting hold of the caseworker on the phone, has anyone experienced this before? And can you advice on best email address to use pls?
Hi there

Suggest you send it via post as special delivery stating your case id and the case worker

Good luck

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by ariskar » Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:37 pm

Oria wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:33 am
Dear Ariskar, congratulations. I am very happy for you that you finally got the good news.

Did you email Home Office or they sent you the news by themselves without you asking for an update?

Warmest,

ariskar wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:30 pm
My spouse timeline. Approval, July 2019 application. 10.5 months processing time.

Some positive news at last. :D Good luck to those waiting... :roll:
Eligibility criteria: ILR refugee settlement + ILR: EU Settled status + BC spouse (I know it is rare combo)
Language Criteria: UK university post-graduate degree
Nationality : Non-EU
Method of application: Online + UKVCAS
Date of application: 23/07/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 24/07/2019
Date biometrics enrolled: 26/07/2019 (UKVCAS Croydon + document scanning)
Date on Approval letter: 02/06/2020
Date of receipt of approval: 10/06/2020
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: Covid,,, waiting
Date of Ceremony: -Covid,,, waiting
Date of Passport Application: -
Date of debit of fees: -
Date Passport received: -
Email response (8 June) mentioned decision was made on 2nd June. We received a letter. Most "other category" simple checks applicant receive emails since April per the timelines. I also requested a decision copy by email which the caseworker with her specific email sent to me.

furthernationalityenquiries@homeoffice.gov.uk,
Citizenship.support@homeoffice.gov.uk,
NationalitySupportTeamFMT@homeoffice.gov.uk,
NationalityFrontEndTechnicalSpecialists <NationalityFrontEndTechnicalSpecialists@homeoffice.gov.uk>,
nationalityenquiries@homeoffice.gov.uk
cm19 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:29 pm
Hi is someone able to offer me advice pls? I had a caseworker requesting evidence I meet language requirements and provided this via email over 5 times in the last 4 weeks. Unfortunately I keep getting further emails from caseworker requesting this same information without acknowledging my previous reply. I am really worried now, I dont know what else to do because I keep emailing the scanned copy but it's like it's not being received, what else can I do there is no way of getting hold of the caseworker on the phone, has anyone experienced this before? And can you advice on best email address to use pls?
This is quite absurd... I suggest you email back and copy (C.c.) all the following addresses. Also in your email body mention the repeated same requests and require acknowledgment of receipt of answer and any evidence (attachments I suppose). Special delivery keeping receipt is a good idea too, as already suggested by the fellow member.
Danbet wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:14 pm
Big Congrats Ariskar
Thank you. My spouse was the last non-British member of the family (myself by naturalisation and our children from birth). Strange they did all those checks with a clean record, two different ILR (refugee and EU settled status) and BC husband and UK born BC child... I suppose cases like this showcase a blanket additional checks segragation of former assylum seekers/refugees.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Oria » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:00 pm

Thank you Ariskar, I am glad that yours is finally done and sorted. I also sent them an email yesterday asking for update to: (NationalityBiometrics@homeoffice.gov.uk).

We applied on the same week and also a few others who applied in July got their decisions. I am very hopeful and positive that mine will also be a good news this time and put an end to my misery.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Danbet » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:13 pm

Oria wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:00 pm
Thank you Ariskar, I am glad that yours is finally done and sorted. I also sent them an email yesterday asking for update to: (NationalityBiometrics@homeoffice.gov.uk).

We applied on the same week and also a few others who applied in July got their decisions. I am very hopeful and positive that mine will also be a good news this time and put an end to my misery.
HI Oria. It has been 11 months for me. emailed them couple of weeks a go for an update and they replied to me the long email which explain general reasons for delay. please share us their response for your latest email. thank you.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by cm19 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:24 pm

Sous49 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:22 pm
cm19 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:29 pm
Hi is someone able to offer me advice pls? I had a caseworker requesting evidence I meet language requirements and provided this via email over 5 times in the last 4 weeks. Unfortunately I keep getting further emails from caseworker requesting this same information without acknowledging my previous reply. I am really worried now, I dont know what else to do because I keep emailing the scanned copy but it's like it's not being received, what else can I do there is no way of getting hold of the caseworker on the phone, has anyone experienced this before? And can you advice on best email address to use pls?
cm19 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:29 pm
Hi is someone able to offer me advice pls? I had a caseworker requesting evidence I meet language requirements and provided this via email over 5 times in the last 4 weeks. Unfortunately I keep getting further emails from caseworker requesting this same information without acknowledging my previous reply. I am really worried now, I dont know what else to do because I keep emailing the scanned copy but it's like it's not being received, what else can I do there is no way of getting hold of the caseworker on the phone, has anyone experienced this before? And can you advice on best email address to use pls?
Hi there

Suggest you send it via post as special delivery stating your case id and the case worker

Good luck
Thank you will do this tomorrow

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by cm19 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:26 pm

ariskar wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:37 pm
Oria wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:33 am
Dear Ariskar, congratulations. I am very happy for you that you finally got the good news.

Did you email Home Office or they sent you the news by themselves without you asking for an update?

Warmest,

ariskar wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:30 pm
My spouse timeline. Approval, July 2019 application. 10.5 months processing time.

Some positive news at last. :D Good luck to those waiting... :roll:
Eligibility criteria: ILR refugee settlement + ILR: EU Settled status + BC spouse (I know it is rare combo)
Language Criteria: UK university post-graduate degree
Nationality : Non-EU
Method of application: Online + UKVCAS
Date of application: 23/07/2019
Date of acknowledgement: 24/07/2019
Date biometrics enrolled: 26/07/2019 (UKVCAS Croydon + document scanning)
Date on Approval letter: 02/06/2020
Date of receipt of approval: 10/06/2020
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: Covid,,, waiting
Date of Ceremony: -Covid,,, waiting
Date of Passport Application: -
Date of debit of fees: -
Date Passport received: -
Email response (8 June) mentioned decision was made on 2nd June. We received a letter. Most "other category" simple checks applicant receive emails since April per the timelines. I also requested a decision copy by email which the caseworker with her specific email sent to me.

furthernationalityenquiries@homeoffice.gov.uk,
Citizenship.support@homeoffice.gov.uk,
NationalitySupportTeamFMT@homeoffice.gov.uk,
NationalityFrontEndTechnicalSpecialists <NationalityFrontEndTechnicalSpecialists@homeoffice.gov.uk>,
nationalityenquiries@homeoffice.gov.uk
cm19 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:29 pm
Hi is someone able to offer me advice pls? I had a caseworker requesting evidence I meet language requirements and provided this via email over 5 times in the last 4 weeks. Unfortunately I keep getting further emails from caseworker requesting this same information without acknowledging my previous reply. I am really worried now, I dont know what else to do because I keep emailing the scanned copy but it's like it's not being received, what else can I do there is no way of getting hold of the caseworker on the phone, has anyone experienced this before? And can you advice on best email address to use pls?
This is quite absurd... I suggest you email back and copy (C.c.) all the following addresses. Also in your email body mention the repeated same requests and require acknowledgment of receipt of answer and any evidence (attachments I suppose). Special delivery keeping receipt is a good idea too, as already suggested by the fellow member.

Thanks will do this tomorrow
Danbet wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:14 pm
Big Congrats Ariskar
Thank you. My spouse was the last non-British member of the family (myself by naturalisation and our children from birth). Strange they did all those checks with a clean record, two different ILR (refugee and EU settled status) and BC husband and UK born BC child... I suppose cases like this showcase a blanket additional checks segragation of former assylum seekers/refugees.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Oria » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:05 am

Danbet wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:13 pm
Oria wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:00 pm
Thank you Ariskar, I am glad that yours is finally done and sorted. I also sent them an email yesterday asking for update to: (NationalityBiometrics@homeoffice.gov.uk).

We applied on the same week and also a few others who applied in July got their decisions. I am very hopeful and positive that mine will also be a good news this time and put an end to my misery.
HI Oria. It has been 11 months for me. emailed them couple of weeks a go for an update and they replied to me the long email which explain general reasons for delay. please share us their response for your latest email. thank you.
Hi Danbet, okay. I’ll share the news whatever it may be. It’s been 5 days less 11months in my case too.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Oria » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:21 pm

Hi everyone, I applied in July 19, 11 months ago. This is the response that I have received today. It’s confusing.


Good Afternoon

Thank you for your E Mail

Your application is currently still in the queue awaiting a caseworker to consider your application and your application will be dealt with in due course. Unfortunately because of the Covid 19 situation applications are taking longer to be considered


Kind Regards



Xxxx
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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Danbet » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:28 pm

Oria wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:21 pm
Hi everyone, I applied in July 19, 11 months ago. This is the response that I have received today. It’s confusing.


Good Afternoon

Thank you for your E Mail

Your application is currently still in the queue awaiting a caseworker to consider your application and your application will be dealt with in due course. Unfortunately because of the Covid 19 situation applications are taking longer to be considered


Kind Regards



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HI Oria.
i think this could be a positive sign.. which may be they finalise the background check and its ready for caseworker. The team reply to you also shows that there exceptional team for long waiting cases. lets finger crossed this time around getting the positive result.

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by secret.simon » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:53 pm

While researching another query, I came across an article on another website that referenced a High Court judgment on the good character requirements, especially as regards asylum seekers: OM, R (On the Application Of) v Secretary of State for the Home Office [2016] EWHC 1588 (Admin). It is worth reading the judgment in full to understand how the court would look at a judicial review of a naturalisation review in this area.

The judgment can be summarised as below;
  • the onus is on the applicant to satisfy the SSHD that he is of good character;
  • the court can only interfere on grounds of error of law or irrationality/Wednesbury unreasonableness / procedural fairness;
  • there is no definition of "good character" in the Act;
  • the standard of good character is set by the SSHD and it is open on her to set a high standard;
  • the SSHD must be satisfied that an applicant is of good character on the balance of probabilities;
  • the grant of asylum does not involve any obligation to grant naturalisation;
  • the test for disqualification from naturalisation is subjective, i.e. if the SSHD is not satisfied that an applicant is of good character, and has good reason not to be satisfied, she is bound to refuse naturalisation.
Paragraph 9 of the judgment in particular is very interesting.
It is well established that there is no right to citizenship and the onus is on the applicant to satisfy the Secretary of State that he is of good character. See for example Sales J (as he then was) in Chockalingam Thamby [2011] EWHC 1763 (Admin) at paragraph 40. In any challenge to a refusal of an application on good character grounds the question is not whether the Secretary of State has established that the Claimant was not of good character but rather 'whether she was entitled not to be satisfied that he was of good character' (per Stanley Burnton LJ in SK (Sri Lanka) [2012] EWCA Civ 16 at para. 38. The court can interfere with such a refusal only on well known public law grounds of error of law or irrationality/Wednesbury unreasonableness / procedural unfairness. What it cannot do is substitute its own decision for that of the primary decision maker. This is not an appeal as to the merits of the original application.
Paragraghs 29-30 also underscore how naturalisation law differs from asylum/refugee law. It is quite long and best if read in the context of the whole judgment.
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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by Mass » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:29 am

Hi everyone,
I hope somebody can help with my Problem as my head been all over the place nobody seems ro give the honest straight answers. 😢

I have been here since 2005 and over stayrd during the period of 2010 and 2014 until I applied for an asylum and lasy year got my ILR.
My Question is"do I have to wait 10 years to apply for citizenship" ?? 😢😢
Is there any discretions that can be applied?? I have a cleaned record/History just over staying seems to be the hurdle. Please advice.
Thanks a lot.
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Hi Mass,
Almost the same as you came here 2004 overstayed till 2012 got ILR 2018 and regardless i applied for BC Dec2019 Caseworker sent me Questionnaire regarding overstay 8 questions most important questions i remember what did you do to legalise yourself?
Did you work during that time?
Who supported you?
Did you claim benefits?
Tell us why should we consider your case?
Ive filled and emailed it back lets see.
My advice make a decision either to wait till 2024 or apply and take a gamble.
Hope this was some help.
Good luck


Hello Mate,
I would love to take a chance though as waiting another 5 years is way too long as I have already s0ent 15yrs of my life here.
Do you mind sharing your answers to the Qs??
What other Qs did they ask??
THANKS

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Re: Naturalisation application delays for Refugees Applicants

Post by jais2015 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:26 pm

Oria wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:21 pm
Hi everyone, I applied in July 19, 11 months ago. This is the response that I have received today. It’s confusing.


Good Afternoon

Thank you for your E Mail

Your application is currently still in the queue awaiting a caseworker to consider your application and your application will be dealt with in due course. Unfortunately because of the Covid 19 situation applications are taking longer to be considered


Kind Regards



Xxxx
Nationality Exceptions Team
Hi Oria
That is actually a good news. I applied on 20th of July 2019, the day after you applied. I emailed HO for an update, however I got a generic reply. Please update, if you get any good news.

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