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Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:24 pm

Dear Moderators, I hope you are well. I had a question regarding pbs dependent extension. I am on the tier 1 entrepreneur route and I have applied for ilr as I used the fast track option of 3 years. My family have been my pbs dependents from the start (3 kids and my wife) and have been living in the uk with me. Our applications were submitted together on July 15th, they applied for a dependent extension and gave thier biometrics on August 19th. I am currently waiting for the idv app. Is it possible that they could get a result before my applicant lion is decided ?. Considering the current trend of applications getting quick decisions after biometrics. Any feedback and help will be highly appreciated. Thank you

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:32 pm

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Is it possible that they could get a result before my applicant lion is decided ?

No. They will only get a decision once your ilr is granted. They don't qualify for an extension otherwise.
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Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:44 am

Dear Sir,


Is there a possibility I can get a quick desicion after biometrics on the Idv app. Considering our brp’s expired on July 15th and my family has submitted thier biometrics in the centre since nearly 10 days. Thank you

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:02 pm

CR001 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:32 pm
Please do not tag onto other members topics.
Is it possible that they could get a result before my applicant lion is decided ?

No. They will only get a decision once your ilr is granted. They don't qualify for an extension otherwise.
I had a few questions about withdrawal of application. I have recently applied for ilr through accelerated route of T1 entrepreneur. My dependents applied for thier extension as they are not eligible for ilr. Our leave to remain in the uk expired together on July 15th and we submitted our application before that. My son needs to go back to his home country. Is it possible he can withdraw his current application and go back to his home country to re apply without having any negative consequences for our case. We applied on July 14th and my dependents gave thier biometric on August 19th. I am yet to give mine as I am waiting for the idv app. Thank you

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by CR001 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:05 pm

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:05 pm

@CR001 Thank you in advance Sir

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by CR001 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:07 pm

Hamza127 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:44 am
Dear Sir,


Is there a possibility I can get a quick desicion after biometrics on the Idv app. Considering our brp’s expired on July 15th and my family has submitted thier biometrics in the centre since nearly 10 days. Thank you
You have to wait to hear back. There is no way to speed up the process.

How old is your son?

He is free to leave, the application will automatically be withdrawn but you will lose the fees you have paid as biometrics have already been enrolled.
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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm

My son is 16 years of age turning 17 on September 3, I do not mind paying the fees again after resubmission back home but what I want to know is that will he lose the 3 years he has already been granted on his previous leave if the application is withdrawn due to him travelling out the country.

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm

CR001 wrote:
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Can you please stop tagging your questions onto every topic you find!!!
I am sorry. Just extremely worried and having panic attacks at the moment

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by CR001 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm

Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm
My son is 16 years of age turning 17 on September 3, I do not mind paying the fees again after resubmission back home but what I want to know is that will he lose the 3 years he has already been granted on his previous leave if the application is withdrawn due to him travelling out the country.
Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:18 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm
My son is 16 years of age turning 17 on September 3, I do not mind paying the fees again after resubmission back home but what I want to know is that will he lose the 3 years he has already been granted on his previous leave if the application is withdrawn due to him travelling out the country.
Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
Oh no that’s terrible. He has to go back home because he doesn’t actually live in the uk with me as there is no absence limit on dependents. His school starts on sep 15. My Ilr could take up to 6 months and he can not miss 6 months of schools. What would you suggest. I am so confused and worried

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by CR001 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm

Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:18 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm
My son is 16 years of age turning 17 on September 3, I do not mind paying the fees again after resubmission back home but what I want to know is that will he lose the 3 years he has already been granted on his previous leave if the application is withdrawn due to him travelling out the country.
Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
Oh no that’s terrible. He has to go back home because he doesn’t actually live in the uk with me as there is no absence limit on dependents. His school starts on sep 15. My Ilr could take up to 6 months and he can not miss 6 months of schools. What would you suggest. I am so confused and worried
It is your choice what you choose to do.

Note however that once he turns 18, he will be unable to return on a visa as your dependent.
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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:37 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:18 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm
My son is 16 years of age turning 17 on September 3, I do not mind paying the fees again after resubmission back home but what I want to know is that will he lose the 3 years he has already been granted on his previous leave if the application is withdrawn due to him travelling out the country.
Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
Oh no that’s terrible. He has to go back home because he doesn’t actually live in the uk with me as there is no absence limit on dependents. His school starts on sep 15. My Ilr could take up to 6 months and he can not miss 6 months of schools. What would you suggest. I am so confused and worried
It is your choice what you choose to do.

Note however that once he turns 18, he will be unable to return on a visa as your dependent.
I guess I will keep him here in the UK but there is another problem. my Younger brother back home has Had a severe accident and can not walk. He lives alone with his kids and he needs me right now immensely. I need help regarding the cover letter I can send to home office requesting them to make an urgent desicion on my case, is there a thread which can guide me with all the information or can you suggest anything. Like what all do I need basically and what is the procedure because I have all the nessacary evidence eg brother’s hospital reports etc ...

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:51 pm

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Post by Hamza127 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:32 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm
My son is 16 years of age turning 17 on September 3, I do not mind paying the fees again after resubmission back home but what I want to know is that will he lose the 3 years he has already been granted on his previous leave if the application is withdrawn due to him travelling out the country.
Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
@CR001, is there a chance if he reapplies for the dependent extension as soon as he got back home that they won’t restart his clock and instead hold his application until I get a descion on my ILR. He is under 18

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by marcnath » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:12 pm

Hamza127 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:32 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm
My son is 16 years of age turning 17 on September 3, I do not mind paying the fees again after resubmission back home but what I want to know is that will he lose the 3 years he has already been granted on his previous leave if the application is withdrawn due to him travelling out the country.
Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
@CR001, is there a chance if he reapplies for the dependent extension as soon as he got back home that they won’t restart his clock and instead hold his application until I get a descion on my ILR. He is under 18
What is the clock that you are talking about? There is no clock for children
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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by marcnath » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:13 pm

Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:37 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:18 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm

Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
Oh no that’s terrible. He has to go back home because he doesn’t actually live in the uk with me as there is no absence limit on dependents. His school starts on sep 15. My Ilr could take up to 6 months and he can not miss 6 months of schools. What would you suggest. I am so confused and worried
It is your choice what you choose to do.

Note however that once he turns 18, he will be unable to return on a visa as your dependent.
I guess I will keep him here in the UK but there is another problem. my Younger brother back home has Had a severe accident and can not walk. He lives alone with his kids and he needs me right now immensely. I need help regarding the cover letter I can send to home office requesting them to make an urgent desicion on my case, is there a thread which can guide me with all the information or can you suggest anything. Like what all do I need basically and what is the procedure because I have all the nessacary evidence eg brother’s hospital reports etc ...
There is no thread for this that I am aware of. You just need to write a letter in normal language and attach all evidence you have
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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:13 pm

marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:12 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:32 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:10 pm
My son is 16 years of age turning 17 on September 3, I do not mind paying the fees again after resubmission back home but what I want to know is that will he lose the 3 years he has already been granted on his previous leave if the application is withdrawn due to him travelling out the country.
Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
@CR001, is there a chance if he reapplies for the dependent extension as soon as he got back home that they won’t restart his clock and instead hold his application until I get a descion on my ILR. He is under 18
What is the clock that you are talking about? There is no clock for children
@marcnath. The clock I am taking about is the qualifying period leading up to application for ilr (minimum of 5 Years If I am correct)

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:49 am

Hamza127 wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:13 pm
marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:12 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:32 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:14 pm

Yes, his clock will likely restart from scratch again.

His section 3C protection ends when the application is withdrawn, making him an overstayer form the visa expiry date and as his visa has already expired more than 28 days ago, he starts again from scratch.

Why does he need to leave the UK?? How long is he planning to be away?
@CR001, is there a chance if he reapplies for the dependent extension as soon as he got back home that they won’t restart his clock and instead hold his application until I get a descion on my ILR. He is under 18
What is the clock that you are talking about? There is no clock for children
@marcnath. The clock I am taking about is the qualifying period leading up to application for ilr (minimum of 5 Years If I am correct)
That is only applicable to the partner
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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:19 am

Thank you replying so swiftly, Just had a general question @marcnath. As HO states, if anyone with a pending application leaves the country, their application is withdrawn. My Q is how does the home office find out if my son has left the country while his visa application is pending, what is the procedure since we have our passports with us and don’t have to request back from HO. Thank you

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by CR001 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:24 am

Hamza127 wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:19 am
Thank you replying so swiftly, Just had a general question @marcnath. As HO states, if anyone with a pending application leaves the country, their application is withdrawn. My Q is how does the home office find out if my son has left the country while his visa application is pending, what is the procedure since we have our passports with us and don’t have to request back from HO. Thank you
They are informed by the airlines through the Advance Passenger Information collected.
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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:32 am

Also is there an outside chance that they might not detect he has left the country and proceed as normal with application ? @Marcnath. Thank you

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Post by Hamza127 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:11 pm

@CR001. Thank you

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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:47 pm

Hamza127 wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:19 am
Thank you replying so swiftly, Just had a general question @marcnath. As HO states, if anyone with a pending application leaves the country, their application is withdrawn. My Q is how does the home office find out if my son has left the country while his visa application is pending, what is the procedure since we have our passports with us and don’t have to request back from HO. Thank you
I don't know how they would know but they will definitely know when your son comes back.
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Re: Tier 1 dependant Queries, please help

Post by Hamza127 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:36 pm

marcnath wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:47 pm
Hamza127 wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:19 am
Thank you replying so swiftly, Just had a general question @marcnath. As HO states, if anyone with a pending application leaves the country, their application is withdrawn. My Q is how does the home office find out if my son has left the country while his visa application is pending, what is the procedure since we have our passports with us and don’t have to request back from HO. Thank you
I don't know how they would know but they will definitely know when your son comes back.
@Marcnath. Just a general insight. Imagine if my son was to leave the uk and I stayed here and HO didn’t find out. They approved my ilr and his dependent extension and sent us our brp’s. Then he could come back in To the UK without any issues right ?. I’m not asking you to tell me exactly if this will happen but just to provide ur general insight. Thanks I’m advance

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