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Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by Bucki » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:21 pm

Hello Ladies and Gents

I am sure you are probably fed up hearing this question all time. My apologies.

My partner holds UK Spouse Visa based on 5 year route. My partner entered UK in Dec 2015 for the first time after the temp entry visa was given aka. when the application has been accepted.

The spouse visa BRP will expire in March 2021.
The main question is:

- can we apply for ILR -28 days before the 5 year period has been reached?
- do we have to wait until 5 year period has been reached (until Dec 2020) and then apply?

The UKVI advisor on the phone advised that “you can apply for ILR 28 days before reaching 5 year route” but on other hand an immigration lawyer online suggested “that is not true and have to wait until 5 year is reached”.

I am in dilemma and confused.
Does anybody here have concrete evidence ?
Or anybody is on same boat as us ....


Please advise, many thanks.

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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by CR001 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:49 pm

- can we apply for ILR -28 days before the 5 year period has been reached?
Yes. You can apply within 28 days before reaching 5 years residence counted from the date you entered the UK. Or anytime after this before visa expires.
- do we have to wait until 5 year period has been reached (until Dec 2020) and then apply?
No. As I answered above already but you just apply before visa expiry date.

This is all very well documented by UKVI. The lawyers is talking nonsense.
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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by Bucki » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:26 pm

Hello CR01

Thanks for your reply.
I am thrilled to know that we can apply 28days before the 7th Dec 2020 . Shame there is no priority service as we urgently need the ILR due to NHS Funding etc.

Would you be able to provide the link to UKVI referencing the 28 days before 5 years for the spouse visa holders?

I am not sure why the immigration lawyer told me otherwise.

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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by seagul » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:57 pm

Bucki wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:26 pm
. Shame there is no priority service as we urgently need the ILR due to NHS Funding etc.
Who does not need to pay or get an IHS reference number
You’ll be able to use the NHS without paying the surcharge or getting a reference number if:

you’re applying for indefinite leave to enter or remain
Bucki wrote:
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Would you be able to provide the link to UKVI referencing the 28 days before 5 years for the spouse visa holders?
Several members experiences can be searched. Also plentiful third party sources can be found to confirm it.
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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:15 pm

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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by Bucki » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:37 pm

Who does not need to pay or get an IHS reference number
You’ll be able to use the NHS without paying the surcharge or getting a reference number if:

you’re applying for indefinite leave to enter or remain
Not sure what you mean by this?

The NHS FUNDING for IVF + PGD is only given if you hold at least the ILR status. This is what we have been told anyway as apparently spouse visa does not cover family conception.

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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by Bucki » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:24 pm

Sorry...

Does the 28 days, include weekends or weekdays (mon to fri) only?

Also what would be the 7th Nov minus - 28 days?


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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by Bucki » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:33 pm

By the way:

According to https://www.gov.uk/settle-in-the-uk/y/ ... ur-partner

Eligibility
If you’ve got a family visa as a partner or spouse on the 5-year route, you must have been living in the UK for 5 years.

So, does this mean only once 5 year has been reached?? I cant find the 28 days before 5 years nowhere on Gov website :(

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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:46 pm

seagul wrote:
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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Bucki wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:24 pm
Sorry...

Does the 28 days, include weekends or weekdays (mon to fri) only?

Also what would be the 7th Nov minus - 28 days?


Thanks
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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by vinny » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:51 pm

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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:53 pm

It is just coincidence that my friend is applying for the same visa and I have his HO approval letter when his initial visa was granted.

The abstract from the HO letter confirms this also. See the attachment:
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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by CR001 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:55 pm

You can apply no sooner than within 28 days before reaching 60 months residence counted from the date you entered the UK. This concession has been in place for many years for all visa routes to ilr.

See the old paper form SET M guidance notes in the link below, clearly stated in page 5 paragraph 5.

https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov ... -form-setm

This question is answered almost daily in the forum. The majority of us have used the concession to apply for ilr, myself included.

Unsure why you believe we are not providing you with facts based on our experiences.
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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by Bucki » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:49 pm

Thanks guys, thanks for advise.
I shall try and get all paper works ready by then.

From my knowledge I need the following

- employment letter
- 6 x payslips
- 6 x month bank statement
- accommodation letter
- proof of joint accounts / address
- B1 Test
- Life in UK Test
- meeting the 18.600 income
- pay the over 2k fee at post office

Not sure or anything else.

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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by CR001 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:58 pm

- proof of joint accounts / address
You need 2 years evidence in both your names, from 3 to 6 sources, spread evenly for every 3 to 4 months.
- pay the over 2k fee at post office
The post office has nothing to do with the application fee or the application itself. You apply the fee online and pay online at the end of the online form process.
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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by seagul » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:38 pm

Bucki wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:49 pm

- pay the over 2k fee at post office

What is that? Several years ago for postal applications post office's postal orders used be used as one of the acceptable method.
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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by Bucki » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:15 pm

Hi CR001

Indeed the postal order is outdated now.
As per the proof of addresses;

We share the house with my parents and done have many sources apart from bank statement, mobile payment. I may be able to change Internet Broadband to our names but that’s it.

That is also what we used for visa extension.

By the way, how long does the process take until the ILR decision has been made? Can it be within few weeks? Or is there a fast track?

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Re: Spouse Visa > ILR

Post by seagul » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:24 pm

Bucki wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:15 pm


By the way, how long does the process take until the ILR decision has been made? Can it be within few weeks? Or is there a fast track?

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Applying for SET(M) but made redundant

Post by Bucki » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:22 pm

Hello All

My wife's 5year route is due to expire in March 2021
We are using the 28 days before 5 year complition from the date of entry in UK (Dec 2015).
So we are now putting everything together to apply by beginning of Oct 2020

One problem :/
I been on furlough since march, and now being made redundant by end of October 2020 :(

I am I still within the rights to apply under Category A (salaried) though I be jobless soon?
I am still employed at the point of the application however.

I can provide last 12month payslips and P60.
Employement letter however will be stating about my redudancy.

So ermmm is abit delicate case here...
On other hand, I have saving over £35K under my name only.

What do you suggest and does anybody else have had similar experience?

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Re: Applying for SET(M) but made redundant

Post by zimba » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:22 am

As long as you were employed on the date of application, you'll be ok
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Re: Applying for SET(M) but made redundant

Post by Bucki » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:15 am

Zimba wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:22 am
As long as you were employed on the date of application, you'll be ok
... well some said so and some otherwise.
Not sure if there is a statement in the appendix to say "sponsor must be working during the SET M process"?

In case they call the employer to verify, they will find out that I been made redundant.

I am worried now :/

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Re: Applying for SET(M) but made redundant

Post by seagul » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:45 pm

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Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:15 am


... well some said so and some otherwise.
All are correct because nothing adverse will happen if by miracle the caseworker won't liaise with the employer.
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Re: Applying for SET(M) but made redundant

Post by zimba » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:54 pm

Bucki wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:15 am
Zimba wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:22 am
As long as you were employed on the date of application, you'll be ok
... well some said so and some otherwise.
Not sure if there is a statement in the appendix to say "sponsor must be working during the SET M process"?

In case they call the employer to verify, they will find out that I been made redundant.

I am worried now :/
I do not care what 'some people' said. The rules state that you must be employed on the date of application. This is also stated in the guide.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... .0-ext.pdf
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Re: Applying for SET(M) but made redundant

Post by Bucki » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:41 pm

seagul wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:45 pm
All are correct because nothing adverse will happen if by miracle the caseworker won't liaise with the employer.
Sorry, I do not understand what you mean by that?
Can you please simplify for me...

As far as I know, the HO never contacted my employer to check if I work there or not ...

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Re: Applying for SET(M) but made redundant

Post by Bucki » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:44 pm

Zimba wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:54 pm
I do not care what 'some people' said. The rules state that you must be employed on the date of application. This is also stated in the guide.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... .0-ext.pdf
I agree with you and I will be employed on the date of application.
However, if I am unlucky and HO calls my employer then they will find out that I am not employed any longer.

My fear is that they will simply refuse the application or auto-extend it for 10year route.
On other hand, my idea was to also include proof of my savings over £35K which is in my name only.

hmmm

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