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https://www.resolver.co.ukZigzag1100 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:42 pm
Yes I think we need to get the MP involved. It’s so not right to wait all the while for certificate and now for ceremony. Not to talk about passport yet!
You are a mathematician!baybars1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:24 pmBased on this information and assuming the HO stopped sending invitations on 23 March 2020 and resumed sending them on 7 August 2020 (as indicated by them in earlier phone calls), as well as that they work in "strict date order", I have worked out that they are clearing approval granted during 78 calendar days within 44 calendar days.adubeys2020 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:42 pmFinally. Received the invitation from council.
Approval - 9th June
invitation received today. letter dated 20th Sept
Ceremony booked - 3rd Nov
Council - Bucks
If (a big if) they carry on at that pace, someone approved today should have their invitation printed by 23 November 2020 and receive the same 7-10 days thereafter, say by 2 December 2020.
Basically, the formula in Excel would be:
"Date on the Invite" =ROUNDUP(("Approval Date" - Date(2020,20,6))*44/78) + Date(2020,20,6)
Not quite. To that point, the formula above has been fixed and the dates formatted as yyyymmdd.Wastson wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:25 pmYou are a mathematician!baybars1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:24 pmBased on this information and assuming the HO stopped sending invitations on 23 March 2020 and resumed sending them on 7 August 2020 (as indicated by them in earlier phone calls), as well as that they work in "strict date order", I have worked out that they are clearing approval granted during 78 calendar days within 44 calendar days.adubeys2020 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:42 pmFinally. Received the invitation from council.
Approval - 9th June
invitation received today. letter dated 20th Sept
Ceremony booked - 3rd Nov
Council - Bucks
If (a big if) they carry on at that pace, someone approved today should have their invitation printed by 23 November 2020 and receive the same 7-10 days thereafter, say by 2 December 2020.
Basically, the formula in Excel would be:
"Date on the Invite" =ROUNDUP(("Approval Date" - Date(2020,6,9))*44/78) + Date(2020,9,20)
The speed of backlog processing appears to be different for different councils, do you take it into account in your model?baybars1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:38 pmNot quite. To that point, the formula above has been fixed and the dates formatted as yyyymmdd.Wastson wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:25 pmYou are a mathematician!baybars1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:24 pmBased on this information and assuming the HO stopped sending invitations on 23 March 2020 and resumed sending them on 7 August 2020 (as indicated by them in earlier phone calls), as well as that they work in "strict date order", I have worked out that they are clearing approval granted during 78 calendar days within 44 calendar days.adubeys2020 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:42 pmFinally. Received the invitation from council.
Approval - 9th June
invitation received today. letter dated 20th Sept
Ceremony booked - 3rd Nov
Council - Bucks
If (a big if) they carry on at that pace, someone approved today should have their invitation printed by 23 November 2020 and receive the same 7-10 days thereafter, say by 2 December 2020.
Basically, the formula in Excel would be:
"Date on the Invite" =ROUNDUP(("Approval Date" - Date(2020,6,9))*44/78) + Date(2020,9,20)
I have also recalibrated using a May approval where the ceremony invite has been received (mentionwd in another thread on this forum) and the result is similar. It seems that the Home Office may be clearing the backlog 1.8 to 2.0 times as fast as they are granting new approvals, which is encouraging provided that they do not backslide again.
Hi Lopand,Lopand wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:39 amHi there. Just wanted to update that I had my Citizenship Ceremony today.
Unfortunately, they had a mistake on my Country of Birth on my Citizenship Certificate so I had to post it back to the Home Office for correction (please check carefully the details printed on your invitation letter and citizenship certificate, as it might cause you troubles later on with the passport application if there's any error on it).
I suspect that it will take a couple of months for me to receive the corrected certificate back, but crossing my fingers for a quick process. Unfortunately, back to the waiting game!
Good luck to you all.
I was approved on 14th August and I'm still waiting. My council, Croydon, resumed ceremonies in early September so I assume it will be a long wait. I think there were fewer approvals in June and July as they had already processed most of the applications from before lockdown and there were fewer new applicants because English and live in UK tests were suspended as well as biometrics.BoyTed wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:09 pmGood Evening All,
Spoke with my council today H&F for almost half an hour she was chatty and giving me a lot of info the lady said they received May and also receive some August/September approval.
All of us approved in June/July will be the last to receive as people approved in August/September been getting ceremony invitation for couple of weeks now and we all know the month of May almost cleared.
Don't mind the wait but scared of lockdown before they clear the backlog.
Not enough data in the threads for that level of granularity. To be honest, I was happy that my model predicted the date of ceremony letter for sole June approval where the date of the ceremony letter has been disclosed within 1-4 days of accuracy using different May approvals where the required data are disclosed.
baybars1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:16 pmNot enough data in the threads for that level of granularity. To be honest, I was happy that my model predicted the date of ceremony letter for sole June approval where the date of the ceremony letter has been disclosed within 1-4 days of accuracy using different May approvals where the required data are disclosed.
I had a brief call today, I have been booked for the 13th of October. I have sent comment to the council suggesting they bring back private ceremony or move to virtual ceremony. Hopefully something will change by the time you get yours. A lot can change in 2 weeks so I am not holding my breath. AhahZigzag1100 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:42 pm
Yes I think we need to get the MP involved. It’s so not right to wait all the while for certificate and now for ceremony. Not to talk about passport yet!
Based on the model, your ceremony invite should have been printed around 16 September 2020 and delivered to you between 24 September 2020 and 4 October 2020.
Lopand wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:39 amHi there. Just wanted to update that I had my Citizenship Ceremony today.
Unfortunately, they had a mistake on my Country of Birth on my Citizenship Certificate so I had to post it back to the Home Office for correction (please check carefully the details printed on your invitation letter and citizenship certificate, as it might cause you troubles later on with the passport application if there's any error on it).
I suspect that it will take a couple of months for me to receive the corrected certificate back, but crossing my fingers for a quick process. Unfortunately, back to the waiting game!
Good luck to you all.
baybars1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:57 pmOK, I have futher refined the model using additional info from the timeline threads and based on:four May approvals and one June approval where the approval dates and ceremony invite letter dates are both disclosed (2x 14 May/7 Sep, 20 May/8 Sep, 27 May/9 Sep and 9 June/20 Sep)
indication that the Home Office stopped sending invites for approvals granted after 18 March and that they started clearing the backlog of those approvals on 7 August
I working out weekdays instead of calendar days to estimate the delays, but that did not make much difference, naturally
As you can see from the list below (which you can interpolate and/or extrapolate for any given approval date), the median expectation of the delay in printing the invitation letter drops from just over 14 weeks for 15-June approvals to 7 weeks for 29-Sep approvals.
One should another 9-20 days to this median delay to allow for postal delivery.
Median projection for the date on the ceremony invite date
Approval Dt - Invite Letter Date (add 9-20 days for delivery)
15/06/2020 - 23/09/2020
01/07/2020 - 01/10/2020
08/07/2020 - 06/10/2020
15/07/2020 - 08/10/2020
22/07/2020 - 13/10/2020
30/07/2020 - 16/10/2020
01/08/2020 - 19/10/2020
08/08/2020 - 21/10/2020
15/08/2020 - 26/10/2020
22/08/2020 - 28/10/2020
29/08/2020 - 02/11/2020
01/09/2020 - 03/11/2020
08/09/2020 - 06/11/2020
15/09/2020 - 10/11/2020
22/09/2020 - 13/11/2020
29/09/2020 - 17/11/2020
Thank you! I did see his thread, but it's locked now so I couldn't reply there. 7 weeks is not as bad as I thought, hopefully it won't take longer than that for me. Crossing my fingers for you as well!BoyTed wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:50 amHi Lopand,Lopand wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:39 amHi there. Just wanted to update that I had my Citizenship Ceremony today.
Unfortunately, they had a mistake on my Country of Birth on my Citizenship Certificate so I had to post it back to the Home Office for correction (please check carefully the details printed on your invitation letter and citizenship certificate, as it might cause you troubles later on with the passport application if there's any error on it).
I suspect that it will take a couple of months for me to receive the corrected certificate back, but crossing my fingers for a quick process. Unfortunately, back to the waiting game!
Good luck to you all.
Sorry to hear about your certificate please check user MOA's post who had similar problems beginning of September and he got he's correct certificate I think it took around 7weeks.
Goodluck and hope things get sorted for you soon.
The model suggests that your ceremony invite should be printed on or around 19 October 2020 and you should receive it between 28 October and 8 November 2020.
Baybars1 well done and give us hope during this difficult journey with me approved 29th June 2020 received decision 2nd July 2020 when should i expect the ceremony in your calculation?
Thanks. Based on the model, your invitation should have been printed today, 30 September 2020, and should reach you in the next 9-20 days.BoyTed wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:28 pmBaybars1 well done and give us hope during this difficult journey with me approved 29th June 2020 received decision 2nd July 2020 when should i expect the ceremony in your calculation?
Will do.baybars1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:32 pmThanks. Based on the model, your invitation should have been printed today, 30 September 2020, and should reach you in the next 9-20 days.
That is the model and please, once you have received the invite, if you can, do post here the date written on the invite letter, if anything, to see if the model needs to be fine-tuned further.
