BC for Child Born Abroad

bravopapa · Post by **bravopapa** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:15 pm

Dear all,

I apologize because i have asked this question before but i still seem to be confused

I am BC other than by descent ( was naturalised in the UK in 2018).

My daughter was born outside the UK this December 2020.

I am looking to apply for her British passport. What should I do?

1- Use the link below?
https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports

The link does not give me the option to apply for her passport, unless I am wrong.

2- Or should i fill the MN1 form

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... 1-guidance

Please advise. Thanks very much

CULLINAN · Post by **CULLINAN** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:17 pm

Your child born abroad is born British by descent.

Follow Option 1 to apply for a British Passport directly.

https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports

bravopapa · Post by **bravopapa** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:18 pm

Thanks very much

shall i put her DOB or shall i put mine (because i am representing her)?

In the question, ---Have you had a UK passport before?---

Are they referring to me or to her? sorry i am confused

CULLINAN · Post by **CULLINAN** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:22 pm

Also note, your child will not be able to pass British Citizenship by descent to next generation born outside UK.

bravopapa · Post by **bravopapa** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:24 pm

CULLINAN wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:22 pm
Also note, your child will not be able to pass British Citizenship by descent to next generation born outside UK.

Thanks

CULLINAN · Post by **CULLINAN** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:24 pm

bravopapa wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:18 pm
Thanks very much

shall i put her DOB or shall i put mine (because i am representing her)?

In the question, ---Have you had a UK passport before?---

Are they referring to me or to her? sorry i am confused

Child is the applicant not you. You are filling the form on behalf of the child but fill as per child’s details.

bravopapa · Post by **bravopapa** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:30 pm

CULLINAN wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:24 pm

bravopapa wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:18 pm
Thanks very much

shall i put her DOB or shall i put mine (because i am representing her)?

In the question, ---Have you had a UK passport before?---

Are they referring to me or to her? sorry i am confused
Child is the applicant not you. You are filling the form on behalf of the child but fill as per child’s details.

Very clear thank you

bravopapa · Post by **bravopapa** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Is Countersignatory needed when applying for first child passport outside the UK?

The rule states that the countersignatory must hold a British, Irish, EU, US or Commonwealth
passport which has not run out. Where am I supposed to find that person if i live outside Europe,UK, commonwealth and UK?

CULLINAN · Post by **CULLINAN** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:52 pm

bravopapa wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:04 pm
Is Countersignatory needed when applying for first child passport outside the UK?

The rule states that the countersignatory must hold a British, Irish, EU, US or Commonwealth
passport which has not run out. Where am I supposed to find that person if i live outside Europe,UK, commonwealth and UK?

Is the checklist asking for it??

bravopapa · Post by **bravopapa** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:54 pm

Thank you for your reply.

I think so. Please check page 15.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... the_uk.pdf

I hope i am understanding this wrong

CULLINAN · Post by **CULLINAN** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:17 pm

bravopapa wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:54 pm
Thank you for your reply.

I think so. Please check page 15.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... the_uk.pdf

I hope i am understanding this wrong

I have no sight of the overseas passport application. As of my understanding the identity is confirmed online. Counter signatory is usually needed for paper applications (I could be wrong?). You should follow the next steps as indicated by the online checklist and do not follow the paper guidance.

bravopapa · Post by **bravopapa** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:35 pm

Let me check. Up to now i was following these instructions:

https://www.passport.service.gov.uk/ove ... okies=true

CULLINAN · Post by **CULLINAN** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm

Once you pay and submit the application online, it will generate a checklist.

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:57 pm

CULLINAN wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm
Once you pay and submit the application online, it will generate a checklist.

Applying from abroad is a paper form, not online.

CULLINAN · Post by **CULLINAN** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:58 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:57 pm

CULLINAN wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm
Once you pay and submit the application online, it will generate a checklist.
Applying from abroad is a paper form, not online.

Ops.. Thanks for the correction. Apologies @bravopapa.

bravopapa · Post by **bravopapa** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:32 pm

Thank you for the reply.

Then the countersignatory is compulsory which is a bit unfair if you dont know people with the right passports (EU, US, UK, etc) in the country where you reside.

i ll have to find countersignatory who live outside Morocco i have no choice

samaygrg · Post by **samaygrg** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:46 pm

Had you registered your child as BC once after you had your BC? if she is not registered yet, you have to go for that first.

bravopapa wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:15 pm
Dear all,

I apologize because i have asked this question before but i still seem to be confused

I am BC other than by descent ( was naturalised in the UK in 2018).

My daughter was born outside the UK this December 2020.

I am looking to apply for her British passport. What should I do?

1- Use the link below?
https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports

The link does not give me the option to apply for her passport, unless I am wrong.

2- Or should i fill the MN1 form

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... 1-guidance

Please advise. Thanks very much

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:50 pm

samaygrg wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:46 pm
Had you registered your child as BC once after you had your BC? if she is not registered yet, you have to go for that first.

Why does the op have to register the child as British first????

A child born abroad,to a person who is British other than by descent, is a British citizen by descent and applies for a passport directly.

samaygrg · Post by **samaygrg** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:15 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:50 pm

samaygrg wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:46 pm
Had you registered your child as BC once after you had your BC? if she is not registered yet, you have to go for that first.
Why does the op have to register the child as British first????

A child born abroad,to a person who is British other than by descent, is a British citizen by descent and applies for a passport directly.

Ahh My bad! apologies!
Thank you CR001 for the prompt correction.
I think I needed a good pair of glasses, I read the child was born abroad in 2010..

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