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Hi,Fatimadurrani wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:38 pmDear all,
I need to know whether I can travel outside the UK after submitting biometric appointment for the replacement of EUSS card and if they do take your old permanent residence card from you on that day? I already have settle status online.
Thank you all in advance!
but I am still trying to gather more evidence on this.I have submit my biometric info today. I have uploaded all documents myself and they only have scanned my passport and taken photo and fingerprints.
Thanks for your reply! I have my bio appointment on 05/02 and a baby coming early March, so I was nervous to send my IDs ahead of the arrival.Anita2000 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:40 pmI have submit my biometric info today. I have uploaded all documents myself and they only have scanned my passport and taken photo and fingerprints.
I have my passport and BRC with me. HO will ask to send old BRC after I receive a new one.
BTW .. did you see we need Schengen visa now to travel to EU at least to Portugal, didn't check others?
Holders of UK Residence Permits/Cards for EU Family Members are no longer exempt from Visa when travelling into the Schengen Area. This means that EU Family Members must always apply for a Schengen Visa (free of charge, as EU Family Members)
https://www.vfsglobal.com/portugal/uk/E ... xwKZCtJXm8
Hi,BlackDahlia wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:53 pmHi all,
I am new to this board. I am interested to clarify this given your debates thus far on the topic. I checked with a lawyer and on the citizensadvice website (here: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immig ... ed-status/) and as per this information, it seems that there is no requirement to swap the BRC to the EUSS card, it is only if we feel more secure this way - that's why it is not also automatically issued if we already hold a valid card and it is not specified in our pre-settled status letter. In my case, I will be eligible for settled status in August so literally 1.5 months after the 30 June date and I will not be traveling at all anywhere until I apply and settle my settled status. Applying for the settled status in August will anyway give me an EUSS with my new status.
Last time I replaced my BRC due to a mistake on the card resulted in me waiting for close to 6 months for a new card. To be honest, I see no point in going through the process when I will be applying for a new status (and card) anyway in August, especially if I have to spend months waiting for the first card only to apply for the second status (and card) a couple of weeks thereafter.
Do you have any confirmed information on whether it is stated anywhere that it is an absolute requirement to swap the BRC with the EUSS?
Thank you!
Thank you very much! That's quite helpful. Seems that we have very little options at this point...Anita2000 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:00 amHi,BlackDahlia wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:53 pmHi all,
I am new to this board. I am interested to clarify this given your debates thus far on the topic. I checked with a lawyer and on the citizensadvice website (here: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immig ... ed-status/) and as per this information, it seems that there is no requirement to swap the BRC to the EUSS card, it is only if we feel more secure this way - that's why it is not also automatically issued if we already hold a valid card and it is not specified in our pre-settled status letter. In my case, I will be eligible for settled status in August so literally 1.5 months after the 30 June date and I will not be traveling at all anywhere until I apply and settle my settled status. Applying for the settled status in August will anyway give me an EUSS with my new status.
Last time I replaced my BRC due to a mistake on the card resulted in me waiting for close to 6 months for a new card. To be honest, I see no point in going through the process when I will be applying for a new status (and card) anyway in August, especially if I have to spend months waiting for the first card only to apply for the second status (and card) a couple of weeks thereafter.
Do you have any confirmed information on whether it is stated anywhere that it is an absolute requirement to swap the BRC with the EUSS?
Thank you!
https://www.gov.uk/uk-residence-card
You can no longer apply for a UK residence card. If you already have a card, it will not be valid after 30 June 2021.
I don't know in you case do you really need to update your cards to EUSS pre-settled and then EUSS settled.
I would be seeking an advice from HO.
I saw somewhere that you need to submit application before the expiration date for a new card otherwise some extra movements are needed. Plus you won't get your EUSS with your settled status. It is a separate application. So up to you if you are OK not to travel till few month of waiting for status from August and then a few months for EUSS card after. It will easily come to 2022.
Thank you - I think my question was mainly whether the card becoming invalid affects your status. But I guess from the sound of it, it is now no longer a choice really. I am on the phone with the EU Resolution Centre to check my particular situation, but I guess they won't say anything different from everyone has been saying hereAnita2000 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:33 amBlackDahlia,
There is another topic and I think kamoe nicely answered your question in the last post.
eea-route-applications/eea-pr-card-exch ... l#p1980377
Do you have to return the old card once you receive the new one? And what about the old card being the biometric identity document on the online system? What happens with that?!Judeu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:27 pmDear all.
To anyone concerned about the time frame of submitting your request of replacing BPR card into EUSS card, following it's my time scale:
Biometrics taken:13/11/ 2020
An email confirming request accepted(and card arriving on post after 7 working days, thereafter ): 07/01/2021
PS.- also in the email it has stated that I should send back the old biometric card issued under EU regulations as soon as possible.
Hi Judeu, thank you very much for the info.Judeu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:27 pmDear all.
To anyone concerned about the time frame of submitting your request of replacing BPR card into EUSS card, following it's my time scale:
Biometrics taken:13/11/ 2020
An email confirming request accepted(and card arriving on post after 7 working days, thereafter ): 07/01/2021
PS.- also in the email it has stated that I should send back the old biometric card issued under EU regulations as soon as possible.
Hi Anita i asked the HO and they said at the moment you don’t need to send the new card back (except if there is a major change such as the name), you will only need to upload it online.Anita2000 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:32 pmHi Judeu, thank you very much for the info.Judeu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:27 pmDear all.
To anyone concerned about the time frame of submitting your request of replacing BPR card into EUSS card, following it's my time scale:
Biometrics taken:13/11/ 2020
An email confirming request accepted(and card arriving on post after 7 working days, thereafter ): 07/01/2021
PS.- also in the email it has stated that I should send back the old biometric card issued under EU regulations as soon as possible.
May I ask you when did you submit your online application?
I am trying to figure out do they count 8 weeks from the application date or bio?
Hello thank you for your feedback! Anyone else had his biometric appointment in the last 4-8 weeks and received his card please? Please share your time scale with us
Hello Mugen,Mugen wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:54 pmFrom that text I understood that unlike for EU, EEA or Swiss citizen that need only a passport or ID/have Status to cross the border, non-EEA family members needeubritish wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:03 pmLooks like we do not need to change the card to the settlement one, according to the update added today.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/visiting-th ... nuary-2021
If you’re a non-EEA family member of an EU, EEA or Swiss citizen
You will need a valid national passport, and one of the following:
an EU Settlement Scheme family permit
a UK-issued EEA family permit
a UK-issued biometric residence card
"an EU Settlement Scheme family permit
a UK-issued EEA family permit
a UK-issued biometric residence card " in a form of a physical document. I didn't see a phrase "need to have a settled or pre-settles status" in regards to non-EEA family members.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway my timeline is:
Card Replacement Form Submission: 13/11/2020
APAD Email: 11/12/2020
Biometrics: 14/12/2020 (have been told by EUSS support that Biometrics cannot be reused)
APAD Email - successful: ?
Card Received: ?
