jlugs wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:54 pm
Thats like a bit of flour lol.
Not sure what you meant by that.
The list used by the Isle of Man government would be almost exactly identical to the one used by the UK Home Office. The UK Home Office and the governments of the various Crown Dependencies (the Isle of Man, Guernsey and Jersey) all implement the same law (the British Nationality Act 1981, which applies to the Crown Dependencies as well) and the naturalisation granted by all of them would result in the same status (most commonly, British citizenship). They therefore co-ordinate their implementation of the law to the same standards. Therefore regardless of whether the list is found on the Gov.IM or the Gov.UK website, their guidance remains the same.
The reason that the list is occasionally found separately is because the Nationality Instructions previously published on the Gov.UK website used to be much more detailed and have far more documents listed on them. See for example these
Nationality Instructions from May 2017, and in particular
the ones that applied to naturalisation. In that latter guidance, you will find the
same list (Annex A to Chapter 6) as the one published by the Manx government.
The guidance for naturlisation has now been considerably simplified and shortened and as
CR001 has pointed out, the list for acceptable persons to be referees is now integrated into the main document.
jlugs wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:04 am
Note professional person can be anybody working in professional capacity in my view like Doctor, Engineer, Teacher/Lecturer, Banker, Physicist (e.g. civil, elec/elect, IT, Software, comp sci. etc. not necessarily Technicians e.g boiler engineer lol).
In the UK at least, the term "professions" and its related "professionals" have had a comparatively narrow meaning for a long time (see for instance,
this link from the University of Oxford's History department). It has generally been used to demote those jobs where the person have to meet specific qualifications laid down by a trades guild or organisation or by a branch of the government and which continues to regulate them after they have qualified. Thus, lawyers and doctors, etc.
A close personal friend, who was also one of my referees for naturalisaton, pointed out to me what they thought all the acceptable people listed in the document had in common (which amounted to almost exactly the same as the above); the listed occupations are all regulated either directly or indirectly by the government and if the referee were found to have lied/been economical with the truth in the reference process, action could be taken against them via their occupation. So, for instance, a nurse or dentist or optician or solicitor could be stuck off the register by the organisation running those occupations (thus rendering them unfit to practise those occupations). Likewise members of professional bodies (like chartered accountants) can be stuck off the rolls of those bodies, thus impacting their ability to work, etc.
Thus a professional referee would suffer a direct and long-term financial impact on their livelihood if it were later found that their reference was not valid.
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.