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. I will attempt not to charge at the doorbell like an excited labrador whenever it rings...Unfortunately, most of what I know is coming from here, and even the last day or two have changed that story as well.Flatcap_Julius wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:55 amI 100% agree, Whip. What do we know about their activity at the moment? Are the DFA increasing the number of FBR applications they are getting through? Wish we knew more about what's going on!
Your data point makes it 2/2, looking at the most recent cases we have. As far as I’m concerned, that’s a pattern!Fogg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:15 pmYes, I was getting a bit worried about the delay between 'address confirmation' and 'congratulations' emails since I replied to the former pretty promptly, and wondered if some last minute problems had been discovered with my documents that would see the whole lot rejected, or if the certificate was just going to appear on my doormat with no warning. However, while most applications seem to get a congratulations email pretty quickly, it does look like there's now a pattern of some longer wait times of a month or more between these steps. I don't know if that fact that I had actually changed my address since applying had anything to do with it?
Congratulations!msry5cw2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:22 pmWell just like that after me post 2 days ago.. congrats email came through this afternoon !!!!
msry5cw2 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:43 am
Feeling frustrated now - coming up for 2 years as well here...
Applied 09/07/2019
Confirmation of receipt 12/08/2019
.. Nothing...
Asked for new photographs of my son 16/12/2020
Confirmation of address 31/05/2021
..... Nothing...
EXCEPT Congrats Email for entry onto the FBR 05/08/2021!
My application is with Team 2
Felt i was close, now i can see people who applied after me receiving their certs
You are correct. Mind you it would be pretty scandalous if they were just discarding people's very personal documents. Although on some level I can understand their wanting to minimise the influx of documents it bugs me that the information on their site is technically false. It seems that they are dealing with the expedited claims for reasons such as pregnancy at the moment, although they are claiming that they will consider expediting in cases where people's rights are affected, it seems that someone's right to live in their own house for more than 90 days at a time is not one of them. I cannot see the DFA staff returning to the office any time soon, given how the pandemic is going. My prediction is that they will allocate more resources to FBA processing early next year and this will see the FBR timescale drop to about 14 month.V3rvangen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:29 pmWhilst we can't be certain, honestly it seems to me as though the 'please do not send supporting documentation' message is still there to simply deter applications whilst there's still such a massive backlog.
Applications HAVE been progressing the last few months. Clearly the office isn't open fully and many staff are redeployed in other roles, but the idea that processing has been completely paused, as the website claims, is totally wrong.
Flatcap_Julius wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:55 pmYou are correct. Mind you it would be pretty scandalous if they were just discarding people's very personal documents. Although on some level I can understand their wanting to minimise the influx of documents it bugs me that the information on their site is technically false. It seems that they are dealing with the expedited claims for reasons such as pregnancy at the moment, although they are claiming that they will consider expediting in cases where people's rights are affected, it seems that someone's right to live in their own house for more than 90 days at a time is not one of them. I cannot see the DFA staff returning to the office any time soon, given how the pandemic is going. My prediction is that they will allocate more resources to FBA processing early next year and this will see the FBR timescale drop to about 14 month.V3rvangen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:29 pmWhilst we can't be certain, honestly it seems to me as though the 'please do not send supporting documentation' message is still there to simply deter applications whilst there's still such a massive backlog.
Applications HAVE been progressing the last few months. Clearly the office isn't open fully and many staff are redeployed in other roles, but the idea that processing has been completely paused, as the website claims, is totally wrong.
With all due respect, or perhaps more truthfully, with virtually no respect whatsoever - because that is what you actually mean - isn't it? I bought my house in 2002 - so I would hardly say it's an afterthought - and yes afterthought is one word and not two. Simon Coveney is on record as saying that expedition is considered if it affects people's rights - he does not define any specific rights. It appears to be the case that in practice they are only expediting pregnancy claims. You have no right to tell me when I should or should not have applied for FBR. I have stated here many times why I did not apply earlier. Not that you would care - as you clearly haven't bothered to read before making your comments - my family died within 6 months of each other and I was made homeless. Yes I had my house in France, however I needed to have an income to support myself and and at the time is was more practical to be in London, living for some time in hostels and temping and doing what I could to get by. I had to go through a dark time and I did so without taking a penny from anyone. If I don't have EU status for 2 years it is not going to ruin my life. Goodness knows I've dealt with enough things already - as indeed have many people, however I don't appreciate the lack of updates. Also, with respect, I work for a large multinational company and have had to go into the office every day right throughout the pandemic. I and my 400 colleagues are all perfectly well alive, so if we can do it, WHY THE HELL CAN'T THE DFA? Sorry but they are treating applicants with contempt, providing no updates whatsoever and it is far from ideal. I will no longer engage with you respond to any of your posts. Thank you for your understanding.Rocky101 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:55 pmWith all due respect, what the British government has negotiated (and agreed!) is not a concern of the Irish Government - Their concern is the safety of their employees, and, speaking with a family member who works at DFA, they only ever expedite claims in pregnancy, so the child will still have the legal right to Irish citizenship. If your issue is what the British Government agreed to - you need to bring it up with them, and if staying in your home for more than 90 days at a time was a real concern, you would have applied for the FBR years ago when it was in the media that they were going to agree 90/180 days. The fact that you said you needed the Irish citizenship for a job you accepted in the EU without having the right to work in the EU, if you do have these houses then they are indeed an after thought!
Flatcap_Julius wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:55 pmYou are correct. Mind you it would be pretty scandalous if they were just discarding people's very personal documents. Although on some level I can understand their wanting to minimise the influx of documents it bugs me that the information on their site is technically false. It seems that they are dealing with the expedited claims for reasons such as pregnancy at the moment, although they are claiming that they will consider expediting in cases where people's rights are affected, it seems that someone's right to live in their own house for more than 90 days at a time is not one of them. I cannot see the DFA staff returning to the office any time soon, given how the pandemic is going. My prediction is that they will allocate more resources to FBA processing early next year and this will see the FBR timescale drop to about 14 month.V3rvangen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:29 pmWhilst we can't be certain, honestly it seems to me as though the 'please do not send supporting documentation' message is still there to simply deter applications whilst there's still such a massive backlog.
Applications HAVE been progressing the last few months. Clearly the office isn't open fully and many staff are redeployed in other roles, but the idea that processing has been completely paused, as the website claims, is totally wrong.
I do agree with you that the DFA’s handling of FBR applications beyond a joke! But at the same time your constant posts about your personal situations really don’t need to be posted on here!Flatcap_Julius wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:12 pmWith all due respect, or perhaps more truthfully, with virtually no respect whatsoever - because that is what you actually mean - isn't it? I bought my house in 2002 - so I would hardly say it's an afterthought - and yes afterthought is one word and not two. Simon Coveney is on record as saying that expedition is considered if it affects people's rights - he does not define any specific rights. It appears to be the case that in practice they are only expediting pregnancy claims. You have no right to tell me when I should or should not have applied for FBR. I have stated here many times why I did not apply earlier. Not that you would care - as you clearly haven't bothered to read before making your comments - my family died within 6 months of each other and I was made homeless. Yes I had my house in France, however I needed to have an income to support myself and and at the time is was more practical to be in London, living for some time in hostels and temping and doing what I could to get by. I had to go through a dark time and I did so without taking a penny from anyone. If I don't have EU status for 2 years it is not going to ruin my life. Goodness knows I've dealt with enough things already - as indeed have many people, however I don't appreciate the lack of updates. Also, with respect, I work for a large multinational company and have had to go into the office every day right throughout the pandemic. I and my 400 colleagues are all perfectly well alive, so if we can do it, WHY THE HELL CAN'T THE DFA? Sorry but they are treating applicants with contempt, providing no updates whatsoever and it is far from ideal. I will no longer engage with you respond to any of your posts. Thank you for your understanding.Rocky101 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:55 pmWith all due respect, what the British government has negotiated (and agreed!) is not a concern of the Irish Government - Their concern is the safety of their employees, and, speaking with a family member who works at DFA, they only ever expedite claims in pregnancy, so the child will still have the legal right to Irish citizenship. If your issue is what the British Government agreed to - you need to bring it up with them, and if staying in your home for more than 90 days at a time was a real concern, you would have applied for the FBR years ago when it was in the media that they were going to agree 90/180 days. The fact that you said you needed the Irish citizenship for a job you accepted in the EU without having the right to work in the EU, if you do have these houses then they are indeed an after thought!
Flatcap_Julius wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:55 pmYou are correct. Mind you it would be pretty scandalous if they were just discarding people's very personal documents. Although on some level I can understand their wanting to minimise the influx of documents it bugs me that the information on their site is technically false. It seems that they are dealing with the expedited claims for reasons such as pregnancy at the moment, although they are claiming that they will consider expediting in cases where people's rights are affected, it seems that someone's right to live in their own house for more than 90 days at a time is not one of them. I cannot see the DFA staff returning to the office any time soon, given how the pandemic is going. My prediction is that they will allocate more resources to FBA processing early next year and this will see the FBR timescale drop to about 14 month.V3rvangen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:29 pmWhilst we can't be certain, honestly it seems to me as though the 'please do not send supporting documentation' message is still there to simply deter applications whilst there's still such a massive backlog.
Applications HAVE been progressing the last few months. Clearly the office isn't open fully and many staff are redeployed in other roles, but the idea that processing has been completely paused, as the website claims, is totally wrong.
Fully agree. I stopped with this thread because, frankly, some of the sense of entitlement on it was getting tedious.chelsearob77 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:03 pmI do agree with you that the DFA’s handling of FBR applications beyond a joke! But at the same time your constant posts about your personal situations really don’t need to be posted on here!
You only applied for your FBR in June of this year so won’t be getting anything back regarding You being granted Irish citizenship for at least another year! So all you can do is sit back and wait, the DFA website states it takes between 12 to 18 months to process applications if your application happens to pass the 18 month point then I would enquire and complain about it!
Sorry but this thread is for Irish Foreign Birth Registrations, not for you to tell us your are just off to the post office to renew your British passport or to share a dream you happened to have when you came home from work and there was a velvet folder with a Irish passport inside it waiting for you on the table! (Yes the one with the golden harp on it)
Enough is enough with the long-winded as they bears no relevance on here fella.
Amen. No more dreams or letters to the QueenJuniorBatman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:27 pmThis thread was good when people were sharing dates and bits of advice and encouragement. Can we return to that?
Yep like I said before I do actually agree with him that the DFA having the FBR offices closed since December last year without any updates since then is absolutely ridiculous! But Flatcap only applied for his FBR in June so has no cause to be on here complaining about the length of time it’s taking! When he passes the 18 month mark then he can have cause for concern and complain! We don’t need to hear anything about him finding it unfair that expected parents have their FBR fast tracked ahead of him, crying because he needs to be European again because he had a job offer in Luxembourg which required he was European, can’t spend more then 90 days in his holiday home in France, dreams about getting a Irish passport (the one with the golden harp on it) inside a velvet folder! Or to inform us he is just going down to the post office to renew his British passport! Oh and writing to the Queen of England (like the Irish government will listen to her!)JuniorBatman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:27 pmFully agree. I stopped with this thread because, frankly, some of the sense of entitlement on it was getting tedious.chelsearob77 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:03 pmI do agree with you that the DFA’s handling of FBR applications beyond a joke! But at the same time your constant posts about your personal situations really don’t need to be posted on here!
You only applied for your FBR in June of this year so won’t be getting anything back regarding You being granted Irish citizenship for at least another year! So all you can do is sit back and wait, the DFA website states it takes between 12 to 18 months to process applications if your application happens to pass the 18 month point then I would enquire and complain about it!
Sorry but this thread is for Irish Foreign Birth Registrations, not for you to tell us your are just off to the post office to renew your British passport or to share a dream you happened to have when you came home from work and there was a velvet folder with a Irish passport inside it waiting for you on the table! (Yes the one with the golden harp on it)
Enough is enough with the long-winded as they bears no relevance on here fella.
FBR staff have been redeployed elsewhere within the Irish civil service; whether we like it or not, that's for the Irish Government to decide and they are not going to prioritise overseas non-citizens (however much they have paid or inconvenient they find it) over their own residents. Moaning on here won't make the slightest difference.
This thread was good when people were sharing dates and bits of advice and encouragement. Can we return to that?
Funnily enough I had started doing that, but stopped because I was getting fed up of the forum and the lockdown. (I have my passport, I’m waiting for my kids’, which are now well over the 18 month stage, but am very much in the relaxed camp.)BrexitEscapee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:11 pm… as soon as he got his FBR certificate he calmed right down, and In place of the political stuff, he started collating a list of how people's applications were progressing. This list was actually a very useful service to members of this forum as it showed the steady progress in FBR processing, and gave people a reasonably accurate estimate of when they could expect their FBR certificate. You could see that people who'd applied in a particular month would all start receiving their address-confirmation emails at roughly the same time.
This chap suddenly disappeared from the forum at the beginning of last year, so here's a suggestion for Flatcap Julius: it looks like you're going to be waiting for at least 18 months, and you intend to participate in forum discussion over that time. How about taking on the role of compiling this progress list to help everyone out? …
Did you send it anyway?northernmma wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:31 pmHi all! I am an american that filed for FBR today online and paid the fee, but when researching how to send supporting documents I saw that the website says "Please do not send supporting documentation as these cannot be processed at this time."
However, I have seen others in this thread that have sent documents anyway. Should I still send mine to get in the queue, or will I incur problems by sending these documents right now?
Thanks for any help!
That's great news mate! I applied a month after your - Dec 2019 so hopefully not too long for myself either !Fogg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:20 pmMy timeline so far:
Documents received email: November 7th 2019
Confirmation of address email: July 6th 2021
Congrats email: August 5th 2021
Apparently my certificate is on its way by signed-for delivery
