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£400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

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£400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by alphagear » Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:48 pm

Hi everyone,

Wife has No recourse to public funds and is named on the Electric/Gas bill which means the 400 pounds energy scheme will be given to her account.

Also we are claiming Child and working Tax credits jointly and will get the 650 pounds cost of living payment.

Are these considered public funds and will get affect her visa?

They are being paid automatically so not sure what the situation is regarding these.

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by alphagear » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:54 pm

Also looks like Warm Home Discount is gonna be automatically applied to people on certain benefits like tax credits.

Me and wife are claiming Child and Working tax credit jointly so looks like this will be added.

Is this also a Public fund?

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by JB007 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:39 pm

alphagear wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:54 pm
Also looks like Warm Home Discount is gonna be automatically applied to people on certain benefits like tax credits.

Me and wife are claiming Child and Working tax credit jointly so looks like this will be added.
Where did you read that? Isn't that just for some pensioners?

And how will it be automatic if you have to apply to your electicity provider?

This is what is on the government site-
You may be able to apply directly to your electricity supplier for help if you do not get the Guarantee Credit element of Pension Credit but:

your energy supplier is part of the scheme
you’re on a low income
you get certain means-tested benefits

How to apply

Your electricity supplier decides who can get the discount.

The number of discounts suppliers can give is limited. Check with your supplier as early as possible to see if you’re eligible and how to apply.


Unlike Universal Credit that is replacing Tax Credit (and four other low income welfare payments) Tax Credit is not means tested. Which is why some on Tax Credit will not get Universal Credit when existing claimants of Tax Credit have their claim ended by 2024 and are invited to claim Universal Credit.

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by JB007 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:04 pm

alphagear wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:54 pm
Also looks like Warm Home Discount is gonna be automatically applied to people on certain benefits like tax credits.
According to this electrity supplier, it is Pension Credit (a means tested benefit for those age 66 plus). As per the link above from gov.uk, these pensioners and other pensioners on low income benefits, had to apply to their electricy provider for the limited number of £140 (if they do the WHD) which if they managed to get, was added to their electrity accoount.


https://www.edfenergy.com/for-home/help ... e-discount
The government is in the process of making changes to the Warm Home Discount Scheme for 2022/23 and customers in England and Wales will no longer have to apply for the grant. If eligible, you will automatically be identified and contacted by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).
If you're in receipt of the Guarantee Credit element of Pension Credit, then you should automatically receive the Warm Home Discount each year. The Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) will write to you to let you know if you're eligible.
Tax Credits is not means tested and is paid by HMRC, not the DWP. But I would be interested in seeing your link.

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by alphagear » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:13 pm


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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by alphagear » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:20 pm

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news ... nt-7441590

The Warm Home Discount (WHD) is a scheme which obliges every participating energy supplier to provide rebates to eligible low income, vulnerable households and will be extended this year.

Continuing to provide rebates to pensioners in receipt of elements of Pension Credit under the 'Core Group 1 cohort', the WHD scheme will now also provide rebates to a larger pool of households identified as having low incomes and high energy costs, under the 'Core Group 2' cohort.

Last year, over 2.2 million households received £140 off their energy bills and almost 470,000 received debt assistance through the Industry Initiatives element of the scheme. In the 2022/23 edition of the scheme, million of households will get £150.

Am I eligible for the Warm Home Discount?
There are specific criteria claimants must meet to be successful in receiving their Warm Home Discount. You either have to be in receipt of the Guarantee Credit or Savings Credit element of Pension Credit or fall into entitlement through Core Group 2.

To satisfy low-income criteria, the account holder (or their partner living at the same address) must be in receipt of one of the qualifying means-tested benefits or Tax Credits during the qualification date for that scheme year.

The following benefits and Tax Credits are the qualifying low-income benefits:

Income related Employment and Support Allowance
Income based Jobseeker’s Allowance
Income Support
Housing Benefit
Universal Credit
Pension Credit Savings Credit
Child Tax Credits
Working Tax Credits



Some people claiming Disability Living Allowance (DLA), Personal Independence Payments (PIP) or Attendance Allowance (AA) will no longer be able to apply for the scheme, if their income is above a certain level, as these benefits are not means tested.

However, around 62 percent those on PIP or DLA will still get the £150 payment as they will fit the low-income criteria.

To meet the high energy cost criteria, the Government states: "The domestic property must be an eligible property type and must have an energy costs core above a threshold that is set for the scheme year by the Secretary of State."

How to claim Warm Home Discount
According to Age UK, most households entitled to the Warm Home Discount in winter 2022/23 will receive it automatically. Previously, those who weren't eligible via Pension Credit had to apply to their energy supplier to receive the money.

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by JB007 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:07 pm

Thanks. Thats the consultancy to see what the WHD scheme will be for core 2 for 2022/23.
The draft statement sets out:

low-income criteria - the qualifying means-tested benefits and Tax Credits which a person must receive to meet the low-income criteria
income thresholds for Tax Credits - the income thresholds for households in receipt of Working Tax Credits or Child Tax Credits to meet the low-income criteria
high-energy-cost criteria - the process for allocating an energy cost score to a household and for setting the threshold that a household’s energy cost score must exceed in order to meet the high-energy-cost criteria
eligible property types - the types which can be eligible for a rebate under Core Group 2

We welcome views on this statement by 14 August 2022.

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by alphagear » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:19 pm

JB007 wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:07 pm
Thanks. Thats the consultancy to see what the WHD scheme will be for core 2 for 2022/23.
The draft statement sets out:

low-income criteria - the qualifying means-tested benefits and Tax Credits which a person must receive to meet the low-income criteria
income thresholds for Tax Credits - the income thresholds for households in receipt of Working Tax Credits or Child Tax Credits to meet the low-income criteria
high-energy-cost criteria - the process for allocating an energy cost score to a household and for setting the threshold that a household’s energy cost score must exceed in order to meet the high-energy-cost criteria
eligible property types - the types which can be eligible for a rebate under Core Group 2

We welcome views on this statement by 14 August 2022.
Which is for the end of this year? right?

Honestly not sure why many of these schemes/payments are being applied automatically yet we have no idea whether they are public funds.

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by JB007 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:38 pm

alphagear wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:19 pm


Which is for the end of this year? right?
For this winter, yes, if their ultilty provider is in the scheme and they meet the criteria that will be set for core 2.

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by alphagear » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:50 pm

JB007 wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:38 pm
alphagear wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:19 pm


Which is for the end of this year? right?
For this winter, yes, if their ultilty provider is in the scheme and they meet the criteria that will be set for core 2.
My wife who has no recourse to public funds is the energy bill account holder so will receive this warm home discount of 150 pounds.

She will also get the 400 pounds energy bills scheme because she is the energy bill account holder and we will get the 650 pounds cost of living because of joint claim tax credits.

Just worried whether these 3 payments will affect her visa conditions. Not sure who to contact regarding it.

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Re: £400 Energy Scheme and £650 Cost of Living Payment - Public Funds?

Post by alphagear » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:12 pm

Any idea guys,


Wanted to know whether the £650 cost of living payment can be claimed without breaching visa conditions.

We claim Child/Working Tax credits jointly with one partner British and the other partner has NO recourse to public funds.

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