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Marriage to a Non-EEA Citizen

Post by riverbank » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:58 pm

Currently in a friendship with a non-EEA citizen who is working in the Schengen zone. I am Irish and live in Ireland. We would like to get married, but I have a real concern that my new wife would not be allowed to live in Ireland or if she was, it would be after many appeals.

My concerns are because the marriage would be after a short dating period and immigration might view this with suspicion. I am not young that is why I do not want a long dating period and we would also like to try for a baby. My second concern is because I have only been working sporadically these last 2 years as I am supporting an elderly parent. I may not have the required income over the past 3 years, but I do have good savings, however immigration might ignore this point.

If we got married could my wife live in Ireland while she waits for a long-term visa? How long does this visa take at the moment to be granted?

Would it be worth engaging with an immigration specialist / Lawyer as this person might be able to spell out what my options are. If I got good advice, I would be happy to pay for it, but I would not know who to ask. Then we could make an educated decision.

My friend does not have a critical skill that would get her a work visa.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Marriage to a Non-EEA Citizen

Post by CatBrom » Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:02 pm

They would quite possibly view it as a marriage of convenience, especially if you are not in a committed long term romantic relationship right now and you are just friends.

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Re: Marriage to a Non-EEA Citizen

Post by meself2 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:43 pm

riverbank wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:58 pm
If we got married could my wife live in Ireland while she waits for a long-term visa? How long does this visa take at the moment to be granted?
If she's a visa national, she'll need a visa to enter Ireland first and with that visa she'd need to apply for a long-term permit (IRP) and wait for the outcome. Visa takes a while (see https://www.irishimmigration.ie/visa-decisions/ for a bit more specific timelines) plus you'd need to make an appointment in Burgh Quay, attend it and wait for the card (might take months as well).
riverbank wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:58 pm
Would it be worth engaging with an immigration specialist / Lawyer as this person might be able to spell out what my options are. If I got good advice, I would be happy to pay for it, but I would not know who to ask. Then we could make an educated decision.
Possibly, but we're not allowed to post links/references to solicitors here. You shouldn't trust me (a random lad form the internet) about which advisor is the best, y'know.

Maybe consider finding her a job in Ireland with current employer, for example, so her visa is independent from your marriage, eg ICT (https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/what-we-do ... nt-permit/) ?
Not a qualified immigration adviser. Use links and references given to gain confirmation and/or extra information.

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Re: Marriage to a Non-EEA Citizen

Post by riverbank » Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:02 pm

Thanks for the replies.

@meself2. Your link was very informative. For our category it looks like a 6 month wait for a visa application to be processed. I assume there are no circumstances where a spouse could live in Ireland while waiting for the decision? Unfortunately, my friend's occupation is not on the critical skills list.

If anyone can answer this question, feel free. If we got married and my wife became pregnant while still living abroad (Schengen zone) would that influence a visa application positively, negatively or make no difference? If she could move to Ireland, it would be our intention to try for a baby.

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Re: Marriage to a Non-EEA Citizen

Post by riverbank » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:01 pm

Bump. Maybe somebody has an opinion on previous post before it disappears into the back pages.

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Re: Marriage to a Non-EEA Citizen

Post by mentalmind » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:40 pm

Sorry to be harsh but all your questions are leading to marriage of convenience. If you want to get married, then you should do it without worry of getting residence permit or not in Ireland. As people wouldn’t take life decisions based on visas or permits. If you get married but if your SO won’t be able to enter to Ireland then will you just get a divorce?

Same thing for trying baby. You are considering how would having a baby would effect your application.

Is being able to live in Ireland more important than having a family?

Just get an appointment (nowadays they all do virtual also) from a solicitor, which usually costs around 200€ for 30 mins. And there are things that solicitors can manage to do that ordinary people like us wouldn’t know.

Discuss this with a professional and then give a decision.

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Re: Marriage to a Non-EEA Citizen

Post by happyj » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:35 pm

All applications will take about 6 months. I don't think it's a problem. I know so many Indian friends who go for arranged marriages, so practically they have not known their spouses at all. All their visas have been approved. Since you are Irish, it's not a problem. You don't have to show much financially.

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Re: Marriage to a Non-EEA Citizen

Post by happyj » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:44 pm

riverbank wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:02 pm
Thanks for the replies.

@meself2. Your link was very informative. For our category it looks like a 6 month wait for a visa application to be processed. I assume there are no circumstances where a spouse could live in Ireland while waiting for the decision? Unfortunately, my friend's occupation is not on the critical skills list.

If anyone can answer this question, feel free. If we got married and my wife became pregnant while still living abroad (Schengen zone) would that influence a visa application positively, negatively or make no difference? If she could move to Ireland, it would be our intention to try for a baby.
Even if you have a baby, it would still take 6 months (visa processing). I know an Irish woman (but of Indian origin) who got married to an Indian citizen (non-EU). It was an arranged marriage. She even had a baby in Ireland (of course she was in India for few months when she got pregnant but decided to have the baby in Ireland as her indian family lives in Ireland). It is again an indian ritual for her to have the baby in her mother's house. I think their marriage too was registered in India. Once he applied for visa to join spouse. His application was processed within 6 months. Now since arranged marriages are common in India, it could have been the reason why it was accepted easily.

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