Changes Very soon in Tier 1

evilg wrote:You seem to be quite experienced in ILR matters-I just wanted to ask whether the years of working have to be consecutive or if they can be counted if interrupted by study. I.e. if I currently am on a 2 year work permit, then plan to do a year-long course, followed by 4 years of tier 1--would my 2 years count towards the total?

They ought to be consecutive years on either WP of Tier 1..these are economic migrants..

post study work visa and student wont count towards it. any break by these categories would reset your clock for ILR.

I already have a Tier-I visa valid upto 10-3-2012. I would be applying for my family as dependents around June/July.

My question is

Are dependents totally banned if applying after April, if yes then is this ban applicable for dependents irrespective of the main applicant having a Tier I visa in possession prior to April 1st or is it applicable to dependents of main applicants applying (main)on or after April1st.
Are dependents allowed to come in i.e apply and not allowed to work after landing

I am in a similar position to Kishore.My tier 1 visa starts from April 22 09 to Apr22 12.Now that with new rules coming in place from April 1st will it affect when I enter UK in MAY.I do have MASTER's degree.

Or is it for fresh applicants applying from April 1st?

Are dependents totally banned if applying after April, if yes then is this ban applicable for dependents irrespective of the main applicant having a Tier I visa in possession prior to April 1st or is it applicable to dependents of main applicants applying (main)on or after April1st.
Are dependents allowed to come in i.e apply and not allowed to work after landing

Can also somebody throw light of above.I have dependants for whom I am planning to apply in the month of June/July.

I will not take his words although he said that master degree rule will only be applicable to new applications.

But this was positive reply.

I am in a similar position as kundalak.My tier 1 visa starts from April 22 09 to Apr22 12.Now that with new rules coming in place from April 1st will it affect when I enter UK in MAY.I do have MASTER's degree and earn more than 20,000 GBP equivalent.

Or is it for fresh applicants applying from April 1st?

Quote:
Are dependents totally banned if applying after April, if yes then is this ban applicable for dependents irrespective of the main applicant having a Tier I visa in possession prior to April 1st or is it applicable to dependents of main applicants applying (main)on or after April1st.
Are dependents allowed to come in i.e apply and not allowed to work after landing


Can also somebody throw light of above.I have dependants for whom I am planning to apply in the month of June/July.

Is it that only tier 2 and tier 5 is affected according to the news?? I am trying to apply for Tier 1 (General) VISA in March.
Can you suggest me to apply or not

phagund wrote:Is it that only tier 2 and tier 5 is affected according to the news?? I am trying to apply for Tier 1 (General) VISA in March.
Can you suggest me to apply or not

Have you actually read any of the thread? or the website?

There are changes that will affect tier 1 from April.

Yes I called 011 420 740 74 and (Andrew) told me that extension from HSMP to Tier1 will not be affected by the Master's Degree rule, although he said that I better contact 0870 606 7766 as my HSMP was 75 points and not 65 points.

I will still wait for anything official on the UK BA website.

"Are dependents totally banned if applying after April, if yes then is this ban applicable for dependents irrespective of the main applicant having a Tier I visa in possession prior to April 1st or is it applicable to dependents of main applicants applying (main)on or after April1st.
Are dependents allowed to come in i.e apply and not allowed to work after landing "


Dependents are not banned at this point, and they haven't made any changes to their ability to work, etc.. According to the statement in the video linked earlier in the thread, they are analysing the options to determine how/if they can impact dependent families. I would imagine that means that they'll come out with something, but at this point nothing's been announced.

aaammmiii wrote:Yes I called 011 420 740 74 and (Andrew) told me that extension from HSMP to Tier1 will not be affected by the Master's Degree rule, although he said that I better contact 0870 606 7766 as my HSMP was 75 points and not 65 points.

I will still wait for anything official on the UK BA website.

What do you mean by HSMP was 75 points and not 65 points?

You got to have 75 poins in HSMP anyway!

Please clarify....

Hi All,

I plan on applying in early March, with an enter date of May 1st. Should I change this to March 30th in order to ensure I won't be impacted by the Masters requirement?

I am applying from Belgium (I am Canadian), and it is mandatory to submit applications online here. Does anyone know when an online application is considered submitted? Is it when I click "submit" on the online form, or is it when I have my appointment at the British Embassy to present all my documents?

Thanks in advance!

aaammmiii wrote:Yes I called 011 420 740 74 and (Andrew) told me that extension from HSMP to Tier1 will not be affected by the Master's Degree rule, although he said that I better contact 0870 606 7766 as my HSMP was 75 points and not 65 points.

I will still wait for anything official on the UK BA website.

Please don't write ambiguous statement. Clarify why did you mention 65 points.

Hi All,

Will this new rule from 1st April Effect the Feb 2009 applications?
I have submitted for Tier1 on 12.Feb. 2009.


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Submitted on 12 Feb 2009.
Current Status: Application Forwraded to BHC, Chennai.

dima wrote:Hi All,

Will this new rule from 1st April Effect the Feb 2009 applications?
I have submitted for Tier1 on 12.Feb. 2009.


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Submitted on 12 Feb 2009.
Current Status: Application Forwraded to BHC, Chennai.

If it affected applications now wouldn't they say it goes into effect immediately?

Hi All,

What about the 4 year Engineering Degree from India. Does this come under Bachelors( as it is now) or as we study 4 years it is considered as mastres in the next PBS Rule? point to be noted rt guys?

rohitv wrote:

aaammmiii wrote:Yes I called 011 420 740 74 and (Andrew) told me that extension from HSMP to Tier1 will not be affected by the Master's Degree rule, although he said that I better contact 0870 606 7766 as my HSMP was 75 points and not 65 points.

I will still wait for anything official on the UK BA website.

Please don't write ambiguous statement. Clarify why did you mention 65 points.

cause he, like many others, needed 65 points when he applied, not 75.
do a bit of research on hsmp...

Hi,

It seems that Masters Degree restriction is going to effect alot. I think B Tech is quite enough degree to be compete with so many Masters Degree in India. I have an opinion that NARIC (who evaluate the degrees) should come and atleast allow proffesional degrres.

This is going to impact alot.

Yes I agree...

They should allow the professional degree like B.tech.

My heart goes out , when just a Bcom, Bsc degree holders are getting the visa( sorry If I have hurt anyone for this comment).
I guess this will be kinda good restriction for PBS if B.Tech degree are allowed.. What say guys...

I know we don't have the details yet, but I'd be surprised if it affects renewals. The impact to employers would be great in that they'd lose people because they couldn't renew. Add to that, the tightening up of the Tier 2 visas, which would make it harder for companies to change someone from Tier 1 to work permit, and you'd end up with a recipe for disaster.. I'm not sure now would be the right time to inflict that kind of damage on the corporate environment.

For those that still qualify for the HSMP judicial ruling, I'm glad it's worked out. That would not be impacted, at least.

dima wrote:Hi All,

Will this new rule from 1st April Effect the Feb 2009 applications?
I have submitted for Tier1 on 12.Feb. 2009.


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Submitted on 12 Feb 2009.
Current Status: Application Forwraded to BHC, Chennai.

How would it affect Feb 2009 if new rules are going to be effective from 1st Apr 2009?

Guys, please stop speculating.

Guys,

I called up HSMP WP this morning, she explained to me that its not affected to the applicants who are applying for extension, however I have asked to confirm in writing, the following is the mail attached, can you guys decipher it for me..?

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----- Forwarded Message ----
From: WPCustomers <wpcustomers@UKBA.gsi.gov.uk>
To: zakkiahmed@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:45:10 AM
Subject: New rules



Dear Customer

Thank you for your query

I write to confirm, the rules regarding tier 1 general that are due to
be introduced in 2009, will not require current HSMP holders (that is
individuals who applied before the introduction of the Tier 1 general)
to re-apply under the new rules. However it may effect any extension or
further applications that are submitted.

I hope you find the above information useful

Regards

Samina
Customer Contact Centre
UK Border Agency
PO box 3468
Sheffield
S3 8WA
Tel: 01142074074
Fax: 01142074000
email: wpcustomers@ind.homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
Website:www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk
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Going by the below email, it means that all extension applications will be affected....

bonvivz wrote:Guys,

I called up HSMP WP this morning, she explained to me that its not affected to the applicants who are applying for extension, however I have asked to confirm in writing, the following is the mail attached, can you guys decipher it for me..?

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----- Forwarded Message ----
From: WPCustomers <wpcustomers@UKBA.gsi.gov.uk>
To: zakkiahmed@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:45:10 AM
Subject: New rules



Dear Customer

Thank you for your query

I write to confirm, the rules regarding tier 1 general that are due to
be introduced in 2009, will not require current HSMP holders (that is
individuals who applied before the introduction of the Tier 1 general)
to re-apply under the new rules. However it may effect any extension or
further applications that are submitted.

I hope you find the above information useful

Regards

Samina
Customer Contact Centre
UK Border Agency
PO box 3468
Sheffield
S3 8WA
Tel: 01142074074
Fax: 01142074000
email: wpcustomers@ind.homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
Website:www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk
--------->

However it may effect any extension or
further applications that are submitted.

bit alarming!

maximux79 wrote:Going by the below email, it means that all extension applications will be affected....

No it doesn't, it contradicts it's self. First it says:

"will not require current HSMP holders (that is
individuals who applied before the introduction of the Tier 1 general)
to re-apply under the new rules"

which would indicate we won't be judged under the new rules if we are currently on HSMP.

then it says:

"However it may effect any extension or
further applications that are submitted. "

As the HSMP -> Tier1 Switch is an extension she is saying it may be affected..


All is all her email is f&*king useless.. what a suprise.

waz1234 wrote:

maximux79 wrote:Going by the below email, it means that all extension applications will be affected....

No it doesn't, it contradicts it's self. First it says:

"will not require current HSMP holders (that is
individuals who applied before the introduction of the Tier 1 general)
to re-apply under the new rules"

which would indicate we won't be judged under the new rules if we are currently on HSMP.

then it says:

"However it may effect any extension or
further applications that are submitted. "

As the HSMP -> Tier1 Switch is an extension she is saying it may be affected..


All is all her email is f&*king useless.. what a suprise.

THE EMAIL UTTERLY AND CLEARLY CONTRADICTS ITSEFL!