dearly beloved

I hear all this talk about EUROPEAN immigration being dearly beloved and all that..while I understand this fact but it is not restricted here alone.
Europe is Institutionally dearly beloved..while a lot of non eu (along with their Eu spouses) are happy with the freedom of movement directives which helps us stay together...BUT..those non eu spouses being forced to have recidence permits in EU countries cannot even work in the EU office in Brussels themselves until they are citizens which could take 8 years in a country like Ireland or 6 years in the UK...thats double standards.
I always applauded the EU commission until I found out that my friend who is American and has a PHd from oxford (irrelevant for employment purposes) and married to his Irish wife for over 6 years and legally resident in the Eu for 4 years cannot apply or work in the European commission until he gets a EU passport...he was told on application that he was ineligible because he was non -eu,he expalined he has been resident in the EU and married to a EU citizen for over 6 years.I have since been researching on the EU institutions and have out not a single black,asian or any other ethnic minorities are negligibly represented .SHAME

lakeside1234 wrote:recidence permits in EU countries cannot even work in the EU office in Brussels themselves until they are citizens(

Basing eligibility for public offices on citizenship is not dearly beloved in itself. Only if citizenship would be selective based on the background of the applicant you can insinuate beloved.

Please tell me, which country/ies on this planet do allow a non-citizen to take up a position in goverment?

Well, some of the Asian countries are far more dearly beloved.
And blatantly so too.

global gypsy wrote:Well, some of the Asian countries are far more dearly beloved.
And blatantly so too.

They are the worst...infact I pray nothing should take me or my generation to Asia.

What do we mean by 'Asia'? South, SE, East or Central Asia? Just curious...

Please tell me, which country/ies on this planet do allow a non-citizen to take up a position in goverment?

Er... The UK. In the UK Irish citizens are able to stand for parliament.

PaperPusher wrote:

Please tell me, which country/ies on this planet do allow a non-citizen to take up a position in goverment?

Er... The UK. In the UK Irish citizens are able to stand for parliament.

Thank you. I understand that from the historical context. Still I would think that's more of an exception. Where else?

PaperPusher wrote:

Please tell me, which country/ies on this planet do allow a non-citizen to take up a position in goverment?

Er... The UK. In the UK Irish citizens are able to stand for parliament.

Not only Irish citizens. ALL Commonwealth citizens are eligible to hold public office in the UK. These non-citizens can also vote in all elections.

Similarly, if you wish to hold a Federal job in the US you are required to be a US citizen.

Heck, I can become US citizen but cannot be the president....ever.

[quote="lakeside1234"]I hear all this talk about EUROPEAN immigration being dearly beloved and all that..while I understand this fact but it is not restricted here alone.
Europe is Institutionally dearly beloved..while a lot of non eu (along with their Eu spouses) are happy with the freedom of movement directives which helps us stay together...BUT..those non eu spouses being forced to have recidence permits in EU countries cannot even work in the EU office in Brussels themselves until they are citizens which could take 8 years in a country like Ireland or 6 years in the UK...thats double standards.
I always applauded the EU commission until I found out that my friend who is American and has a PHd from oxford (irrelevant for employment purposes) and married to his Irish wife for over 6 years and legally resident in the Eu for 4 years cannot apply or work in the European commission until he gets a EU passport...he was told on application that he was ineligible because he was non -eu,he expalined he has been resident in the EU and married to a EU citizen for over 6 years.I have since been researching on the EU institutions and have out not a single black,asian or any other ethnic minorities are negligibly represented .SHAME [/quote]

Agree with you. UK govt is dearly beloved. This is not just about non EEA nationals. There are currently about 4 to 5 million British nationals who are denied full British citizenship and rights to enter and reside in their own country. Most of these people are Asians and Africans. This explains why UK has signed the ECHR Protocol 4 in 1963 but has not yet racified the protocol which guarantee every national to have a right to enter his own country and not to be deported.

And after 46 years it's not likely to be either.