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Teir 1 refusal based previpous earnings (*Shushil pls ans)

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Teir 1 refusal based previpous earnings (*Shushil pls ans)

Post by ash321 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:13 pm

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Re: Teir 1 refusal based previpous earnings (*Shushil pls an

Post by Rozen » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:50 pm

ash321 wrote:quick reply is highly appreciated.
Well, wait for 'Shushil' to reply, as indicated in your header! :roll:

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Re: Teir 1 refusal based previpous earnings (*Shushil pls an

Post by gotcha » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:01 pm

ash321 wrote: I had asked to claim the expenses after that limted company magae to reduce my taxable gross approxx 18000.
I know, my reply is not going to help you, but I wonder, how you managed to reduce taxable gross to approx £18K ?

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Post by ash321 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:14 pm

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Re: Teir 1 refusal based previpous earnings (*Shushil pls an

Post by kiranchinnu » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:34 pm

ash321 wrote:Hi, I gor refusla of tier 1 visa today by mentioning that your previous earnings is not whatever i calimed. Actually I am worj=king through a limited comapny they operationg my pay roll, my earning was approx £35000. I had asked to claim the expenses after that limted company magae to reduce my taxable gross approxx 18000. But home office only considered that £18000 and given me only 10 points. How I can appeal? is any chance to win in appeal? pls i have given only few day quick reply is highly appreciated.

Thanks in Advance
you cant claim points on expenses

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Post by ash321 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:38 pm

but this is not a expeses which previously spent. The company didn't paid from their pocket.

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Post by kiranchinnu » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:41 pm

ash321 wrote:but this is not a expeses which previously spent. The company didn't paid from their pocket.
if you shown anything as expenses , they will not be considered as salary.

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Post by tvn_ramesh » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:44 pm

ash321 wrote:but this is not a expeses which previously spent. The company didn't paid from their pocket.
Is this payment part of the Salary Package/ Contract or just expenses paid by your company?

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Re: Teir 1 refusal based previpous earnings (*Shushil pls an

Post by hsmpaspirant2008 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:25 pm

(*Shushil pls ans) :roll:

Anyway, you cannot claim points for company expense reimbursements and by definition expenses are what is already spent for company's welfare by you. If you appeal your expense claim will be considered "incorrect", your limited company manager cannot "ask" you to claim expense for the sake of reducing taxes, do not exactly know what you will stir up there.
ash321 wrote:Hi, I gor refusla of tier 1 visa today by mentioning that your previous earnings is not whatever i calimed. Actually I am worj=king through a limited comapny they operationg my pay roll, my earning was approx £35000. I had asked to claim the expenses after that limted company magae to reduce my taxable gross approxx 18000. But home office only considered that £18000 and given me only 10 points. How I can appeal? is any chance to win in appeal? pls i have given only few day quick reply is highly appreciated.

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Re: Teir 1 refusal based previpous earnings (*Shushil pls an

Post by yasa » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:36 pm

ash321 wrote:Hi, I gor refusla of tier 1 visa today by mentioning that your previous earnings is not whatever i calimed. Actually I am worj=king through a limited comapny they operationg my pay roll, my earning was approx £35000. I had asked to claim the expenses after that limted company magae to reduce my taxable gross approxx 18000.

If your taxable gross is 18000 then u can only claim points on that cuz u paid tax only on that amount

But home office only considered that £18000 and given me only 10 points. How I can appeal? is any chance to win in appeal? pls i have given only few day quick reply is highly appreciated.


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Re: Teir 1 refusal based previpous earnings (*Shushil pls an

Post by geriatrix » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:52 pm

yasa wrote:If your taxable gross is 18000 then u can only claim points on that cuz u paid tax only on that amount
You claim points on your *gross salary before tax*, and not on "taxable salary"! So the statement is incorrect.
Tier 1 (General) policy guidance wrote:113. If an applicant is in salaried employment, we will assess the applicant’s gross salary before tax. This includes self-employed applicants who draw a salary from their businesses. If the applicant earned the money in a country with no tax system, we will consider his/her total earnings for the period.
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Post by Saga » Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:58 pm

my earning was approx £35000. I had asked to claim the expenses after that limted company magae to reduce my taxable gross approxx 18000.
Can you clarify this statement ?

My understanding is, If the company's document is showing tacable gross as £18000, then thats what it is.

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:44 pm

ash321 wrote:Dear sushdmehta

you mean thay are not clearly says in policy guideline that they will consider only "taxable earnings". I also understand that they will consider my "gross income before tax" and they didn't/I have also called homoffice before submtting my file they people replied that everything written in the guideline, if you are not sure just send us all the income documnets and case worker will decide it.

So you mean I can fight against the statement written in policy guideline.
The issue here for people wishing to respond tou your query, I guess, is that you have not been able to clearly explain what your salary structure is.

This is what I have understood from your posts - Your gross salary is 18000.00 and the rest 17000.00 you claim as expenses in order to reduce your income tax liability. If this is indeed the case, then you cannot include 17000 as part of your "earnings or income".

If my understanding is incorrect, please spell clearly how your salary is structured so that everyone can understand.

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Post by ash321 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:49 pm

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:59 pm

ash321 wrote:Can anyone give me advise how I can go for appeal ? I am really frustated. is there any chance?
IMHO, no point! On what grounds will you appeal?

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Post by ash321 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:08 pm

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Post by ash321 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:09 pm

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Post by gotcha » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:17 pm

ash321 wrote:I f i pay all the taxes wahtever i earned then can I go for appeal?
I still puzzled, Is it possible to reduce taxable income by £17k by claiming expenses. I reckon, you need to show receipt for it . I know, you can claim expenses, but £17k is big amount.

Anyway, I think, you should take professional help in this matter.
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Post by geriatrix » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:18 pm

ash321 wrote:I f i pay all the taxes wahtever i earned then can I go for appeal?
You have paid taxes to which you were liable to.

Don't expect that your expenses can now be re-classified as salary, so that you can file a new application / appeal. Cannot be done!

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Post by ash321 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:20 pm

Dear Gotcha,
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Post by gotcha » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:22 pm

ash321 wrote:Dear Gotcha,

Do know any professional person so i can give my case to him?
I'm sorry, can't help here.

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:39 pm

ash321 wrote:Dear Sushdmehta,

you are right, but can i say to HMRC that my earning was xyz and whatever company made my payroll, I am not aware about that my taxable gross will be less. now I want to pay the full tax whatever I earned. will it work?
Thanks and regards
HMRC has nothing to do with what salary structure you and your employer decided to work with in the first place. That's between you and your employer!

Unfortunately, you are in this situation today because of your ignorance in the matter. IMHO, there is nothing you can undo today .. with how your salary was structured in the past .... but if you wish to seek expert opinion (e.g. - certified accountant), please do so!

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Post by ash321 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:28 pm

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