Tier 1: Prev Earnings : Indian Salary + UK Allowance

Dear friends,

I work for an indian company. I have been deputed to UK for the past 12 months (slightly more).

My indian company pays my renumeration package as follows

1. Indian Salary component in INR
2. UK Allowance component in GBP

Renumeration package = INR amount + GBP Amount

I used the point based system and entered my indian salary (in INR) for the 12 months and UK allowance for the past 12 months. It appears, i am eligible for the 100 points limit set after 19-July-2010.

Please note: The PBS tool used hte multiplier to calculate the amount that i entered in INR. Is this the right way of calculating my total salary?

Do you all think i am eligible for applying in person? I am planning to apply in person based on your responses

Can you please share your views and guide correctly?

It would be of great help if i get a response as early as possible

Regards

Yes u r eligible

I am also work for same company and I got tier1 visa

Go ahead n apply

You can't use a multiplier for money you have earned whilst in you were In the UK

Yes, you can include both the Indian + UK components.
I had exactly the same case.
Got my visa stamped recently.

Dear Rg111 and inaffleblep,

Thank you for your responses.

Just want to add a bit more clarity. My company quite recently start remitting the indian salary component in GBP. So for the month of April, May and june (in my 12 months period), My bank statement will show complete renumeration package in my HSBC UK bank statements.

So, I would assume, i have to calculate the INR salary component only for the first 9 months as an INDIAN Salary (using currency converter and Multiplier) and consider the UK allowance (12 months) and the Indian salary remitted in the UK bank(3 months) as UK Pay (No Conversion factor)


Since, you are from same/similar company. I am assuming you would have done this. Please let me know your thoughts

gbran wrote:Dear Rg111 and inaffleblep,

Thank you for your responses.

Just want to add a bit more clarity. My company quite recently start remitting the indian salary component in GBP. So for the month of April, May and june (in my 12 months period), My bank statement will show complete renumeration package in my HSBC UK bank statements.

So, I would assume, i have to calculate the INR salary component only for the first 9 months as an INDIAN Salary (using currency converter and Multiplier) and consider the UK allowance (12 months) and the Indian salary remitted in the UK bank(3 months) as UK Pay (No Conversion factor)


Since, you are from same/similar company. I am assuming you would have done this. Please let me know your thoughts

As suggested by Paperpusher please be aware that you CAN'T use the uplift ratio on your Indian salary while you were physically working in the UK...good luck!!

Look, as far as I know, you can include both the components. I am from the same company and got my visa.
However during my time, indian slary was not remitted to UK. so I calculated the indian salary with the multiplier and then added the UK allowance.

you may pm me if you want further details

How did you get payslips or a letter confirming tax and gross salary?

I got proper payslips for my indian salary in INR. (It shows the salary before and after tax)

i also get a UK allowance slips (A4 Sheet) with my company header on it.

I have got both stamped and signed by my company

Have you applied already ? can y pls. share your contact details if visa is stamped ?

Hi,

Would you be able to suggest points which can be considered, if below gives information on the earning in India

aug09-31858 INR
sep09-31858 INR
oct09-39058 INR
nov09-31858 INR
dec09-31858 INR
jan10-39058 INR
feb10-37925 INR
mar10-36891 INR
apr10-50574 INR
may10-41074 INR
jun10-41074 INR
jul10-51274 INR

UK allowance earnings along with the same (Physically present in UK from April)

apr10 - 1900 GBP
may10 - 1900 GBP
jun10 - 1900 GBP
jul10 - 1900 GBP

Dear friends,

I guess, i need some more help here. I am still not sure, if i can apply in the way i have explained.

If i dont use the multiplier, i dont think, i can apply.

So, Can you please let me know, if there are any refusals doing it this way?

rg111 --> Can you please PM Me?

Regards

gbran wrote:Dear friends,

I guess, i need some more help here. I am still not sure, if i can apply in the way i have explained.

If i dont use the multiplier, i dont think, i can apply.

So, Can you please let me know, if there are any refusals doing it this way?

rg111 --> Can you please PM Me?

Regards

You cannot use uplift ratio for your Indian earnings when physically present in UK. Search the forum and you will come across a number of members who were rejected for this reason. One of them
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... ght=uplift

Could anybody pls. calculate and let me know the points for previous earnings entered here ...

While you were physically present in UK and earning your Indian salary as well. You can not uplift your indian salary.

Calculation would be Your UK salary in GBP + Your indian salary converted in GBP(without uplifting).

You can see more details here at this link.

http://bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteconten ... iew=Binary

One of my friend has applied and got rejected with this reason.
And to say...we all are in same company

uk_2010 wrote:While you were physically present in UK and earning your Indian salary as well. You can not uplift your indian salary.

Calculation would be Your UK salary in GBP + Your indian salary converted in GBP(without uplifting).

You can see more details here at this link.

http://bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteconten ... iew=Binary

One of my friend has applied and got rejected with this reason.
And to say...we all are in same company

Hi ,

The story goes long back in time when people started putting half of the pay in UK banks and half of the pay in Indian banks . Some of my friend got lucky and they got the visa but now they are clearly rejecting such cases and old and gold " transfer " thing wont work . So do not use the up lift factor for your INR part . It is clearly stated you have to be physically there to apply uplift and being a human you can not be at 2 places in one event of time so logically it's not correct. IMHO , answer is big NO

Hi,
Should the earning be in the net pay format or gross pay??
Which one qualifies?

Gross pay, before deductions.

Hi,
For the UK i only have an allowance slip. Is this valid? Someone recently told me that since it does not have gross pay and net pay on it. I dont qualify. Is this true?

One thing is for sure that you cannot use uplift ratio if you are not present physically in that country.

Coming back to rg111's case, its very important to understand when rg111 had applied, before 06 april 2010 or after that and also what was his gross GBP earnings without and with uplift ratio.

If it was before 06 April 2010 then the earnings points structure was totally different and you were eligible even if you earned 25K GBP but that is not the case now, today you need to earn min 35K if you are below 29 and have bachelor degree.

There is a possibility that rg111 would have used uplift ratio while applying but case worker would have not considered it but still you were eligible for 75 or more points.

hope this makes sense to everyone

I am currently on Tier 2 ( Intracompany ), however planning to convert from Tier 2 to Tier 1. Currently in UK and like some of the other members of the forum who have posted messages, I am working for a company which used to pay UK Allowance + Indian Salary till 31 Mar 2010, but from 01 Apr 2010, the Indian salary is also paid in UK.

1. I want to know from few other members who were in similar scenario that when they got the Payslips Stamped from the employer, did they ask why you are converting from teir 2 to 1 ? Or Why you need this ?

2. How easy it was to get the salary slips stamped/signed from the employer ?

3. After converting the visa, did u get 2 years or 3 years visa ?

4. The salary mentioned in CoS, the P60 and the actual salary is different. Since I am in UK, I think I cant use UPLIFT for my Indian Salary before 01 Apr 2010, which creates problem. However, with the salary mentioned in CoS I easily qualify or if I use the Income mentioned in P60 that was filed, I easily qualify. However, P60 is for the last year till 05 April 2010. ( I easily qualify if i use uplift, but as per some blogs I cant use uplift)

- Can CoS be used as Salary Proof ?
- Can I get the P60 related Income and Tax information for this financial year from HMRC or the Employer starting from 01 Apr 2010 till Aug 2010 ?

Any ideas / Suggestions ?

Cheers

kr4zi3 wrote: - Can CoS be used as Salary Proof ?

Is CoS proof of your actual earnings? As per your own statement what you earned is different from what is stated in the CoS! Tier 1 assessment is done on "earned" income.

kr4zi3 wrote: - Can I get the P60 related Income and Tax information for this financial year from HMRC or the Employer starting from 01 Apr 2010 till Aug 2010 ?

P60, like ITR in India is for the entire financial (tax year). If you want to use P60 as evidence of income then your 12 month assessment period must be April-March.

regards

How is your actual salary different from your P60?

Your P60 should show gross and deductions and that should match your payslips.

I think it has been mentioned before that this company does not provide proper payslips that you are legally entitled to. It sounds like you would qualify if you can get these.

ArgieBee/Sushdmehta

Here is the issue. The Company gives Indian Salary + UK Allowance

1. Indian Salary. The payslip shows gross Indian Salary/month and taxes deducted permonth. So no Issue here. The bank statement would show the net payment made to me after taxes are deducted from my salary
plus
2. UK Allowance. UK Allowance is paid 'net' as company pays the income tax on my behalf. This means that the my gross earning are more. The payslip shows the net allowance that is paid rather than the gross amount. The company is paying the taxes and I get the net allowance. For example if I get 1900 GBP/month, it is the net amount/month. I dont have to pay the income tax, as company files the IT return on my behalf. This means other than the payslip of 1900/month, I dont have any other statement which states that my actual gross income is more.

Therefore P60 form mentions my gross income. ( Indian + UK ). This is the only document that I have, which shows Gross income.

Any ideas ?