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Does any one out there know if 2nd-time applicants are prioritised? I recently got refused for minor traffic offences after some 30-month wait. Thanks.

I don't think there will be a priority for you...It will be treated the same way as anybody else.

Nanette.

yemostika wrote:Does any one out there know if 2nd-time applicants are prioritised? I recently got refused for minor traffic offences after some 30-month wait. Thanks.

[quote="nanette"]I don't think there will be a priority for you...It will be treated the same way as anybody else.

Nanette.




I agree with Nanette. good luck

Does any one out there know if 2nd-time applicants are prioritised? I recently got refused for minor traffic offences after some 30-month wait. Thanks


Hi Yemostika.
What is this minor traffic offense they refuse you on. wat really happened, is it only one time or more.
thanx

yemostika wrote:Does any one out there know if 2nd-time applicants are prioritised? I recently got refused for minor traffic offences after some 30-month wait. Thanks.

Yeah Yemo, could you elaborate on these offences or quote the refusal letter you got? It would help some people on this forum

AShawna wrote:

yemostika wrote:Does any one out there know if 2nd-time applicants are prioritised? I recently got refused for minor traffic offences after some 30-month wait. Thanks.

Yeah Yemo, could you elaborate on these offences or quote the refusal letter you got? It would help some people on this forum

Thanks all. They're double-yellow parking & bulb-failure (one headlamp not working)! I've now reapplied, & it's being acknowledged. Thanks again.

yemostika wrote: Thanks all. They're double-yellow parking & bulb-failure (one headlamp not working)! I've now reapplied, & it's being acknowledged. Thanks again.

Wow, I got speeding ticket and penalty points but didnt affect my approval so I guess I should be thankful. I'd be interested in knowing how they'll handle the 2nd time application. If they do the Garda check, will same offences be reported again...?

yemostika wrote:Thanks all. They're double-yellow parking & bulb-failure (one headlamp not working)! I've now reapplied, & it's being acknowledged. Thanks again.

Wow, those are both pretty minor infractions and afaik neither even give you points on your driving licence right? Did you pay the fines?

AShawna wrote:Wow, I got speeding ticket and penalty points but didnt affect my approval so I guess I should be thankful. I'd be interested in knowing how they'll handle the 2nd time application. If they do the Garda check, will same offences be reported again...?

Yeah I wonder about this too. There are no guidelines about "statute of limitation" on how long any "adverse attention" will be held against you. I wonder if the 2nd app will be dealt with any differently than the first?!

To all specially the senior members,
Just wondering,
If you have been caought speeding and got fined without penalty points.
(I introduced my internationl liceinse at that time) would that appear in the garda report?

IRISH PHAROE wrote:To all specially the senior members,
Just wondering,
If you have been caought speeding and got fined without penalty points.
(I introduced my internationl liceinse at that time) would that appear in the garda report?

Not likely if this is the only traffic offence against you and provided you have not come to the adverse attention of the Gardi for any other other reason, you should be ok.

IRISH PHAROE wrote:To all specially the senior members,
Just wondering,
If you have been caought speeding and got fined without penalty points.
(I introduced my internationl liceinse at that time) would that appear in the garda report?

I got fined and got penalty points for speeding. I paid up fast and that was the end of the matter. Guess the point s would have dropped off now, its been over 3 years.

yemostika wrote: Thanks all. They're double-yellow parking & bulb-failure (one headlamp not working)! I've now reapplied, & it's being acknowledged. Thanks again.

That is very harsh! We've read cases people with up to 4 penalty points granted citizenship and others with offences they were neither convicted nor even fined for being refused. If these offences were the sole reason why your application was refused then that would be very unfair. It highlights again the unfair and nontransparent nature of he Irish naturalization process. Hopefully it won't be the case, but what is worrying is the possibility that they may decide to hold the same offence against you the second time around.

As
what happened with yemostika is really frustating, one of me friends got approval in 33 months recently he was twice fined and got penalty points for speeding, thirdly he was court convicted for tv licence, and at last he could not show insurance and nct disc to garda with in 10 days so he was court convicted and was fined for 300 euro. with all these offences he got the approval lucky guy

but wat can u say in this position yemo have really minor offences.

one woman from Asia got refusal as well only on parking double yellow line.

another guy i know got approval was fined twice for speeding.

Really no Idea how DoJ is dealing with all these offences i guess for speeding it does not matter for them.

well i m fined for double yellow line once aswel so i should know about my decision now.

good luck to all

....you can buy a "certificate of irishness".....it states up to 70 million people qualify for this- fee yet to be announced by government...irish descendants- that's A LOT OF PEOPLE !!

9jeirean wrote:

yemostika wrote: Thanks all. They're double-yellow parking & bulb-failure (one headlamp not working)! I've now reapplied, & it's being acknowledged. Thanks again.

That is very harsh! We've read cases people with up to 4 penalty points granted citizenship and others with offences they were neither convicted nor even fined for being refused. If these offences were the sole reason why your application was refused then that would be very unfair. It highlights again the unfair and nontransparent nature of he Irish naturalization process. Hopefully it won't be the case, but what is worrying is the possibility that they may decide to hold the same offence against you the second time around.

I thought the penalty points (if not contested in court) stays 3 years on the license and then go away. If the INIS is making this an excuse and refusing it that is very very harsh. I thought the applicant has the right to bring this to a judicial review as i read some cases on courts.ie where refused applicants have challenged.

still waiting wrote:As
what happened with yemostika is really frustating, one of me friends got approval in 33 months recently he was twice fined and got penalty points for speeding, thirdly he was court convicted for tv licence, and at last he could not show insurance and nct disc to garda with in 10 days so he was court convicted and was fined for 300 euro. with all these offences he got the approval lucky guy

but wat can u say in this position yemo have really minor offences.

one woman from Asia got refusal as well only on parking double yellow line.

another guy i know got approval was fined twice for speeding.

Really no Idea how DoJ is dealing with all these offences i guess for speeding it does not matter for them.

well i m fined for double yellow line once aswel so i should know about my decision now.

good luck to all

No. I don't think you should be pessimistic about your decision. Reason being: My cases went to court: 1st- alleged parking offence- for non-payment of fine, judgement: Acquitted, non-conviction & case thrown out. 2nd- 'bulb-failure'... No option for payment of fine, summoned to court, found guilty and fined €60, promptly paid. So I think the issue was court attendance!... But is there anyone who has received a decision after reapplying due to being initially refused? Cheerio!

Hello,

What types of address proof are accepted for an application that was submitted based on marriage to Irish citizen?

Can I submit following as proof of address?

Joint Bank Account Statement
Mortgage Statement
Home Insurance policy
Health Insurance policy

Also, what is the time frame for approval after sumission of additional documents?

Regards

ChIrl wrote:Hello,

What types of address proof are accepted for an application that was submitted based on marriage to Irish citizen?

Can I submit following as proof of address?

Joint Bank Account Statement
Mortgage Statement
Home Insurance policy
Health Insurance policy

Also, what is the time frame for approval after sumission of additional documents?

Regards

Joint Bank statement would suffice.

9jeirean

Thanks.

But, INIS asking to submit three address proof with joint names.

9jeirean wrote:

ChIrl wrote:Hello,

What types of address proof are accepted for an application that was submitted based on marriage to Irish citizen?

Can I submit following as proof of address?

Joint Bank Account Statement
Mortgage Statement
Home Insurance policy
Health Insurance policy

Also, what is the time frame for approval after sumission of additional documents?

Regards

Joint Bank statement would suffice.

9jeirean

Hi ChIrl,

I applied last month as the spouse of an Irish citizen.
I ended up supplying a copy of every bill we had. Some weren't in joint names, mainly because he'd bought our home before I came along, and these were fine. I ended up submitting the following:

1. Joint current account statements
2. Health insurance certificates for us (we had 4 years, so sent these all in)
3. TV license demands (going back 3 years), addressed to my husband
4. Motor tax demands for the last year, again just in my husbands name
5. Revenue tax credit certificates/P21s going back 3 years
4. Phone/Internet bills
5. Electricity/Gas bills, going back several months
6. Joint savings account statements

I supplied this with the initial application, so I don't know if they'll want them again. I basically cleaned out our filing cabinet when I applied, so it probably sounds like I've gone a bit overboard, but my application was accepted into the queue, so that's all good!

Out of interest, how long have you been waiting?

sounds like I've gone a bit overboard...Ahahahahahahaha

That's a good approach. I am guessing it will be processed quick. Wait and See
Nanette -- Predicator

kiwiwife wrote:Hi ChIrl,

I applied last month as the spouse of an Irish citizen.
I ended up supplying a copy of every bill we had. Some weren't in joint names, mainly because he'd bought our home before I came along, and these were fine. I ended up submitting the following:

1. Joint current account statements
2. Health insurance certificates for us (we had 4 years, so sent these all in)
3. TV license demands (going back 3 years), addressed to my husband
4. Motor tax demands for the last year, again just in my husbands name
5. Revenue tax credit certificates/P21s going back 3 years
4. Phone/Internet bills
5. Electricity/Gas bills, going back several months
6. Joint savings account statements

I supplied this with the initial application, so I don't know if they'll want them again. I basically cleaned out our filing cabinet when I applied, so it probably sounds like I've gone a bit overboard, but my application was accepted into the queue, so that's all good!

Out of interest, how long have you been waiting?

nanette wrote: Nanette -- Predicator

Nice title Nanette.

nanette wrote:

kiwiwife wrote:sounds like I've gone a bit overboard...Ahahahahahahaha

That's a good approach. I am guessing it will be processed quick. Wait and See
Nanette -- Predicator

I wish that were the case. When submitting OH's app, we sent in a veritable manual of documentation including police reports from each country he'd lived in (incl Ireland). This hasn't meant diddly squat to the application processing time

Scrudu,

Sent you a PM.

scrudu wrote:

nanette wrote:

kiwiwife wrote:sounds like I've gone a bit overboard...Ahahahahahahaha

That's a good approach. I am guessing it will be processed quick. Wait and See
Nanette -- Predicator

I wish that were the case. When submitting OH's app, we sent in a veritable manual of documentation including police reports from each country he'd lived in (incl Ireland). This hasn't meant diddly squat to the application processing time

Hi Nanette, Hotspurs,
I could do with some expert advice from you both...my application for naturalization (based on 5 yr stay, applied in Dec. 2008) is in the 'final stages' of processing and awaiting a decision from Minister's Office, so I've been told in the last 5 weeks that I've been calling the Department. However, when I ran on Tuesday this week, the lady told me it was actually sent to the minister just 2 weeks back, so should wait few more weeks! Strange contradictory messages. Any guess when I might get the oath letter? The new cabinet got formed today so I'm guessing the new Minister will take his time to settle down before approving the applications.
Also, does the fact that the application is with the Minister mean it will be approved or is there still an 'if' ? I don't have any penalty points or Garda encounters..

Thanks a lot!