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Switching Tier1 General to Tier1 General Dependent

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Switching Tier1 General to Tier1 General Dependent

Post by Ish51 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:57 pm

Hello,

Please advise as I am currently on Tier 1 General and decided to switching to Tier 1 General dependent category.
My query is whether I can apply from inside the country or I need to go back to my home country to apply for the visa?

Background information-
I live in UK since 2007.
Got my Tier 1 inside the UK in 2010.
My Husband is having Tier 1 General since 2008.

Waiting for your inputs.

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Post by params0073 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:21 pm

You need to go back to your home country and apply for EC.

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Extension in country

Post by Ish51 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:43 pm

I think I can extend in country:-

your last visa to enter the United Kingdom or permission to stay here was as the partner or child of a person who has valid permission to enter or stay here as a migrant under Tier 1 (General), or who is at the same time being granted permission to enter or stay here as a migrant under Tier 1 (General) or

Please let me know if this is fine.

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Post by silent_warrior » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:55 pm

There is a difference between you having a valid leave to remain on Tier 1 General, and you switching to a dependent route of a Tier 1.
From the information provided by you, it seems that you are currently on a Tier 1 General Visa.
Whereas the rule says
You can apply for permission to stay here as the dependant of a migrant under Tier 1 (General), without having to leave the United Kingdom and apply for a visa if:
your last visa to enter the United Kingdom or permission to stay here was as the partner or child of a person who has valid permission to enter or stay here as a migrant under Tier 1 (General), or who is at the same time being granted permission to enter or stay here as a migrant under Tier 1 (General)


So, as you were not on a partner or dependent visa of the Tier 1 General migrant before, you would need to leave UK and apply for Entry Clearance

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Tier 1 General Dependent

Post by Ish51 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:16 pm

Thanks for your inputs. I am plaining to go back to India to apply for Tier-1 General dependent visa.

Can you please let me know which visa application form required

Could you please send me the check list documents for Tier 1- General dependent

In case if I apply after 9th July (new changes) how it can effect my application form

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Post by geriatrix » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:17 pm

Last edited by geriatrix on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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online form

Post by Ish51 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:12 am

I am on http://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/ApplyNow.aspx to fill the online form and not able to pick up the right options. For example in Type of visa choice.

Can anyone help me please.

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Re: online form

Post by QuickSam » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:31 am

Ish51 wrote:I am on http://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/ApplyNow.aspx to fill the online form and not able to pick up the right options. For example in Type of visa choice.

Can anyone help me please.
You need to select

Work > Tier 1 (General) > Dependant Partner
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few things to get clear

Post by Ish51 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:18 am

MY visa is going in finish on 27th August and I am going to apply for visa on 25th June. I hope i can apply in advance.

Second I need total 1600 maintenance funds for 90 days (1 dependent + 1 Main applicants). My daughter is already dependent on my husband visa so we have not added her maintenance funds.

Please give your inputs.

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Post by geriatrix » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:23 am

It is entirely your choice when you wish to apply.
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Main applicants

Post by Ish51 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:36 pm

Do main applicants have to show salary slips or income source to support dependents.

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Post by geriatrix » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:47 pm

Follow suggestion given.
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Post by Ish51 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:17 pm

Thanks Mr Mehta for your inputs. One more thing to clarifs that maintience funds should be main applicants bank account OR dependent account if dependent is applying from india.

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:33 am

sushdmehta wrote:
Follow suggestion given.
And, read carefully.
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Post by params0073 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:47 am

sushdmehta wrote:
sushdmehta wrote:
Follow suggestion given.
And, read carefully.
@sushdmehta I like the way to make people do their homework. :D .Good job

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maintenance requirements.

Post by Ish51 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:10 pm

maintenance requirements.

"This page explains the requirements for maintenance (funds) that you must meet if want to apply for permission to enter or remain in the UK as the dependant of a migrant under Tier 1 (General) of the points-based system.

To qualify for a visa or permission to stay as a dependant of a Tier 1 (General) applicant or migrant, you must show that you have enough personal funds to support yourself for the entire period of your stay.

Your evidence must show personal cash funds which are held in savings or current accounts. Other accounts such as shares, bonds, overdrafts, credit cards, and pension funds are not accepted as evidence."

Do dependent have to show his/her own personal funds as mentioned above or it can be only in the main applicant bank account??

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:46 pm

Ah! Now I think I understand the problem.

Ish51,
I was asking you to read a topic in the forum (the title and link of which I had provided) but you thought I was asking you read the UKBA policy guidance for dependants.

Click on the link given in any of my responses above and read the linked topic.
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Post by Ish51 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:55 pm

I have read all the links. To be honest more I read, more i get worry.

I am going to apply on Friday and all funds are in my husband account and not in my account. Can you please YES OR NO regarding maintenance please

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Post by layman » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:28 am

Dependent can show his/her own personal funds OR it can be the main applicant's bank account, either would work. So should work for you if husband's(main appilcant) account has sufficient funds for the 90 days period. There is some confusion on how much maintenance is required though. Clause 47 of the dependant policy guidance states

47. If a family member applies separately from the Tier 1 Migrant, there must still be enough funds
to support each member of the family. Therefore in the example above, if the family has a third
child, the main applicant has been in the United Kingdom for two years and the family applies
for leave to remain for the third child separately, they must provide evidence that they have an
additional £600 in available funds.

My interpretation of this is that if there are 2 dependants and main applicant is in UK for more than 12 months, the maintenance fund required is £900 + £600 + £600 = £ £2100

Whereas others believe it is just £600 if only one dependant is applying irrespective of the number of dependants in the family staying in UK along with the main applicant.

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Post by Lucapooka » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:37 am

layman wrote:My interpretation of this is that if there are 2 dependants and main applicant is in UK for more than 12 months, the maintenance fund required is £900 + £600 + £600 = £ £2100
Your interpretation is wrong. In any situation where the PBS migrant (main applicant) is not applying at the same time, there is no requirement for the main applicant to show maintenance for him/herself.

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Post by layman » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:24 am

I wouldn't be so sure. What does Clause 47 imply then?

Applying separately is a mere technicality. It seems logical that one would need sufficient funds to sustain a family as a whole in the UK, irrespective of when the individual members apply.

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