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ILR SAME DAY SERVICE - REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DOCS

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ILR SAME DAY SERVICE - REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DOCS

Post by sjidh » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:46 am

Hi all

I went for one day service to Croydon PEO for ILR SET O along with 2 dependants.
Docs I submitted
1.SET O Form
2. Passports and BRP
3. 12 months pay slips and dividend vouchers
4. 12 months personal bank statements
5. Accountant letter
6. Cohab docs - Joint bank statement, utility bills, council bill
7. Life in UK test

They dint gave a decision as they require additional docs to be sent to them by post within 2 weeks -
1. Business contract/agreement made with your business clients.
2. A letter from clients on their company headed letter and signed by a director confirming the details of business services received from you and the details of payments made to you.
3. Please submit us the evidence of of the services provided to client/business in support of invoices drawn on on this company(We expect to see any reports submitted for these clients)
4. Please explain the nature of services provided to clients.Please submit us the letters from these companies in support of business dealings with you.
5. Please advise us the hourly rate of your consultation fees charged and the details of how many hours you have worked on this work assignment with reference to the invoices
6. Your self-employment is continued since your previous application as a Tier1 General migrant made in September 2011.Please submit us your tax returns filed with HMRC for the tax years ended 2012 in support of your self-employment earnings.

I have asked the agency through which I work for clients to send the business contract agreements with the agency to work for particular clients with terms and conditions and a letter of describing what work I do.
I am also sending the invoices for last 1 year and also P60.
1 year business bank statements, company incorporation, VAT registration letter.I am planning to send all this docs by Saturday, so they would receive it on Monday.

My queries are -

1. Are this docs are enough to answer all the above question by UKBA?
2. How long will it take once they receive the docs ( as I payed for 1 day service)?
3. Is there any contact number where I could chase the progress?

Please guide me.

Many Thanks
SJ

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Post by sjidh » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:54 pm

Gurus please comment!

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Post by rpsarangi » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:46 am

please do send the receipt of the payments from the clients if you have any that might help ..
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Post by sjidh » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:24 pm

I am sending the invoices along with business bank statement

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Post by ILRFLR » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:49 pm

When I extended my T 1G in Nov 2011, I provided the following documents.
I suggest you provide,

1) A letter from agency that you had contracted with them as (your designation) for the client xxxxxxx and your daily rate is £yyy and you were paid into the bank account (with a summary)
2) If possible, get a letter from client that you provided the services in the said period as (your designation)
3) Accounts for the last 3 or 4 financial years with a letter from your accountant explaining invoices and bank statements
4) Dividend vouchers
5) HMRC letter confirming the tax paid for the salary earned
6) Personal and business bank statements
7) all Invoice print-out
8) All contract print-out

Please note that I am not an expert, I am in a similiar situation and suggesting what all docs I am submitting. IMO, the more docs you provide, the more safe you are.

All the best

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Post by rpsarangi » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:15 pm

Letter from agency that you have a contract with them for the services. .
Contract letter from client to the agency or your company
Invoices
If possible letter from client that you have provided services and the payments
Business bank statement
Personal bank statement
Dividend vouchers
Accountant letters
Tax papers from HMRC for the previous income .
Letter explaining what services you do .


All the best .. As said in the previous post , the more documents you give the better ...
I think these documents might help from what I think but you need to speak with your accountant or solicitor to find out in case you need to provide more documents for the requirement they have asked you ..
Any other papers ... Please suggest ... Seniors , members and gurus ..
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Post by sjidh » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:38 pm

Thank you very much!
I am planning to post all the docs tomorrow morning.

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Post by Khurrum_Khan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:10 pm

sjidh wrote:Thank you very much!
I am planning to post all the docs tomorrow morning.
Hi.

can you please share if you are self-employed or running a Limited company?

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Post by AUHS » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:28 pm

Khurrum_Khan wrote:
sjidh wrote:Thank you very much!
I am planning to post all the docs tomorrow morning.
Hi.

can you please share if you are self-employed or running a Limited company?
If you read the OP first post then it will be clear that he is running a Limited company.
On the other hand I know 1 guy who applied ILR under self employment before 2 weeks. His application was held for further checks ...... No news until Now.

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Re: ILR SAME DAY SERVICE - REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DOCS

Post by ukswus » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:16 pm

"3. Please submit us the evidence of of the services provided to client/business in support of invoices drawn on on this company(We expect to see any reports submitted for these clients) "

Surely many of these reports can be confidential?

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Post by pyke » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:33 pm

What confuses me is why evidence for self-employment is being requested for when the OP is not self-employed. Are they doing that for all limited company directors?

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Post by wire » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:15 pm

In my opinon, OP should have applied as employed and not self-employed. It appears that OP is employed as a director of his/her limited compnay. Although they are interchangeably used, they technically dont mean the same.

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Post by O_Relly » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:13 pm

OP ideally, should have submitted invoice summary and business bank stmts, given that he was submitting letter from accountant.

Pg21 of policy guidelines state,
x) Where you are submitting a combination
of bank statements and a letter/invoice
summary from your accountant, you must
also provide any invoices generated during
the period for which earnings are being
claimed.
All accountants must be either
fully qualified chartered accountants or
certified accountants who are members
of a registered body, see section on
providing evidence from an accountant or
accountancy firm
Although not mentioned in the policy guideline, would have always been a good idea to keep contractual documents in hand.

In theory, going by the policy guidelines, it is enough if OP had just payslips, dividend vouchers and personal bank statements. But that never works, does it?

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Post by O_Relly » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:27 pm

Also, a friend appeared, yesterday at PEO Croydon for Tier 1, 2nd extension, as director of ltd company, and his visa was granted, no questions asked.

Docs he submitted,
1. Contract agreements
2. Payslips & Dividend vouchers
3. Letter from accountant
4. Invoices
5. Personal Bank stmts
6. Business Bank stmts

His initial grant was under rules in place before 06 April 2010, and he was awarded points based on old rules and his extension was granted for 3 years.

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Post by iamab3liever » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:37 pm

Hey sjidh,
Could you please post the template you've used for the letter from the clients.
Thanks.

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Post by wire » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:31 pm

A letter from your client is probably not the most straight forward thing. I would focus on getting a reference letter from the recruitment agency , that summarises the engagement with the client. Details that can go into the letter -

1. Client Name/Details
2. Rate
3. Role in the client location.
4. Period of engagement
5. Summary of Invoices raised/paid.
6. Recruitment agency contact details, if UKBA would like to verify

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Post by iamab3liever » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:49 pm

wire wrote:A letter from your client is probably not the most straight forward thing. I would focus on getting a reference letter from the recruitment agency , that summarises the engagement with the client. Details that can go into the letter -

1. Client Name/Details
2. Rate
3. Role in the client location.
4. Period of engagement
5. Summary of Invoices raised/paid.
6. Recruitment agency contact details, if UKBA would like to verify
In this case, will the signed contract document between the agency and my company not suffice? As it will contain all the above info except the invoice summary...

So basically just the following documents are required?
- Payslips
- Dividend vouchers
- Personal bank stmts
- Company bank stmts
- Gross/net pay letter from accountant
- Printed copy of contract (as its a pdf)
- Printed copies of invoices (as they are pdf as well)

No need for tax returns p-60s/employment history, letter from client and invoice summary??

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Post by wire » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:33 pm

iamab3liever wrote:
wire wrote:A letter from your client is probably not the most straight forward thing. I would focus on getting a reference letter from the recruitment agency , that summarises the engagement with the client. Details that can go into the letter -

1. Client Name/Details
2. Rate
3. Role in the client location.
4. Period of engagement
5. Summary of Invoices raised/paid.
6. Recruitment agency contact details, if UKBA would like to verify
In this case, will the signed contract document between the agency and my company not suffice? As it will contain all the above info except the invoice summary...

So basically just the following documents are required?
- Payslips
- Dividend vouchers
- Personal bank stmts
- Company bank stmts
- Gross/net pay letter from accountant
- Printed copy of contract (as its a pdf)
- Printed copies of invoices (as they are pdf as well)

No need for tax returns p-60s/employment history, letter from client and invoice summary??
you are probably right, however ukba has no way of knowing that you fulfilled your contract. A reference letter is generally dated recently and kind of reinforces the genuineness of the contract. But again, it is not a mandate. I would also ask the agency to send me the orginal copy of the contract on their compay letter head.

As the company director, you may attest the print-ed out invoices. And In my opinon -

p60 is not required to be submitted but nice to have it with you if you are going in for a peo.
Letter from your client - i would be suprised if they agree to give you a letter as they generally dont take any responsibility for contractors what so ever. But some may be quite understanding.
Invoice summary - can be a part of your accountant letter. The clients are charged a different rate by the agency, so ts unlikely that this can be obtained.

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Post by sjidh » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:50 pm

Hi all,

Is there any way that I could trace my application or get updates?
They have received additional docs on 7th October.

Regards
SJ

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Post by pyke » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:09 pm

Payslips have been referred in several posts above - are these issued by yourself as the Director? Is that acceptable? I don't have any and my accountant has said that they don't prepare them.

However, they aren't really required are they? Do most of you submit them though?

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Post by rpsarangi » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:12 pm

Talking about self -employment are these documents ok
1.business bank statement 12 months
2.invoice generated to clients with their details
3. Previous tax documents
4. Class 2 NI bills
5. Letters from accountant

Are these documents enough or need to add any others documents to counter the genuine test ? Please comment
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Post by iamab3liever » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:21 pm

Helpful comments, thanks @wire.

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Post by iamab3liever » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:31 pm

pyke wrote:Payslips have been referred in several posts above - are these issued by yourself as the Director? Is that acceptable? I don't have any and my accountant has said that they don't prepare them.

However, they aren't really required are they? Do most of you submit them though?
Providing payslips is the easiest and the most common way to prove salaried income. I contract via a limited company with myself as the director. My accountant prepares my payslips on formal payslip paper which is acceptable.

Alternatively, they can be printed on the company letter headed paper or on plain A4 in which case they must be signed and stamped. Both these types are also acceptable (source: Previous earnings guidelines pdf).

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Post by ToneGen » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:24 am

To the Original post by sjidh,

Did they give you any chance to produce any of those documents right there during PEO appointment? or they staright away handed you the list of additional docs needed and asked you to post them?

reason I am asking is most of us hold back few documents and produce only if asked.

Another reason is that my friend has recently extended his visa @ solihull and unlike previously (CW sat across me during my last extn Dec 2011) he never got to face CW as his docs were just collected and CW assessed them inside. then he was just given with the letter of confirmation.

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Post by sjidh » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:39 pm

Hi all,

Is there any way that I could trace my application or get updates?
They have received additional docs on 7th October.

Regards
SJ

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