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PPRON or FLR(M) or both?

Post by rayb » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:01 pm

Hi everyone! With info below, please share your opinions on what is the fastest and less risky way to get naturalization? My husband (british) plans to move abroad for a few years as soon as I get british passport. :roll: I am on HSMP visa, just passed IELTS :D and applied for HSMP extension. I have posted before, now i studied the links re ppron method and this time I am posting with more details and more questions…. Please tell me if I am making any wrong assumptions. I don’t want to abuse ppron method if its not the best option for me.
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Post by rayb » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:50 am

is there anybody who can advise on this post? Please!

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Ppron method .. conflicting accounts!

Post by Enkido » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:24 pm

I am not sure if you had a look at this thread:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... d&start=20

I was planning to apply though the British embassy in Bern as well, even though i know all the details that i need to know about ppron but i still feel that there might be some hidden things in the law that will stop the HO from granting British nationality.

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Post by rayb » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:37 pm

yeap, I do keep an eye on every thread with ppron mentioned, in case some new info pops up. 8)
i dont see why you cant try ppron, what do you loose if it`s refused - around £400(appl.fee+travel) and time putting together papers, thats all. there is no penalty for trying, right? and what you gain if its granted... passport few years earlier! (well, i hope for it)

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Post by John » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:45 pm

what is the fastest and less risky way to get naturalization?
Ah that is the problem. The fastest might be the most risky!

The least risky ... apply for 2-year spouse visa now ... using form FLR(M). In the last 28 days of that 2-year spouse visa, apply for ILR.

As soon as you have your ILR, and after checking that you were actually in the UK exactly 3 years earlier, apply for your Naturalisation.

The Ppron method might well have disappeared by the end of next year, so getting the 2-year spouse visa now is a good insurance against that happening. Getting that visa does not stop you using the Ppron method if it is still around.
John

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Post by JAJ » Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:52 am

John wrote: Ah that is the problem. The fastest might be the most risky!

The least risky ... apply for 2-year spouse visa now ... using form FLR(M). In the last 28 days of that 2-year spouse visa, apply for ILR.

As soon as you have your ILR, and after checking that you were actually in the UK exactly 3 years earlier, apply for your Naturalisation.

The Ppron method might well have disappeared by the end of next year, so getting the 2-year spouse visa now is a good insurance against that happening. Getting that visa does not stop you using the Ppron method if it is still around.
Quite right. Especially as the Government has indicated changes to the nationality law (for those born overseas with a British mother pre-1961) may be made in 2008/09, it would be easy for them to close down the ppron method loophole if they wished.

All that they would need to do would be to insert a clause into the British Nationality Act stating that all naturalisation applications (except for those based on Crown Service, and distinct from registration) must be lodged in the United Kingdom, Channel Islands and Isle of Man. In other words, remove the facility to lodge the application overseas which is the cornerstone of the ppron method.

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Post by rayb » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:41 am

Thanks for your replies. I had a gut feeling FLR(M) is inevitable, you say it is wiser to get it now, that`s what I will do. Once HO returns my passport with HSMP extention... I shall send it again, only for spouse visa. I think i might well exceed my budget for visas this year :shock:

Do u think FLR(M) can be opened from date of marriage or from date of receipt of application is a stict rule?

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Post by John » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:19 am

Do u think FLR(M) can be opened from date of marriage or from date of receipt of application is a stict rule?
Neither! The 2-year period will be as from the date of issue of that visa. The choice is yours of how to apply. If you apply in person at a PEO .... cost £595 ... you should expect same-day service, as long as you have taken along to correct documentation. Or apply by post .... cost £395 .... and it might take a few weeks ... delaying the eventual application for ILR.
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