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Record numbers of Brits fleeing this rain sodden island.

Post by Hernancortes » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:43 pm

Just heard about it on the radio.
The weather and the high cost of living are the main reasons for leaving.
However, some ignoramuses cite immigrants in the UK as a reason for leaving.

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Re: Record numbers of Brits fleeing this rain sodden island.

Post by Christophe » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:09 pm

Hernancortes wrote:Just heard about it on the radio.
The weather and the high cost of living are the main reasons for leaving.
However, some ignoramuses cite immigrants in the UK as a reason for leaving.
Hmm... then the immigrants must be better able to stand up to the rain than the locals. :)

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Re: Record numbers of Brits fleeing this rain sodden island.

Post by Dawie » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:14 pm

Hernancortes wrote:Just heard about it on the radio.
The weather and the high cost of living are the main reasons for leaving.
However, some ignoramuses cite immigrants in the UK as a reason for leaving.
Isn't it ironic that those who quote immigrants as their reason for leaving are going to become the very thing they despise?

It's a bit like showing your disgust for smokers by becoming a smoker yourself.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Re: Record numbers of Brits fleeing this rain sodden island.

Post by Christophe » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:28 pm

Dawie wrote: Isn't it ironic that those who quote immigrants as their reason for leaving are going to become the very thing they despise?
That's an irony that would, I am sure, be lost on the people who quote immigrants as their reason for leaving!

To be fair, of course, we must remember that not all British people who choose to emigrate would be saying that: indeed, it's probably largely a complaint of stay-at-home types who love a good moan...

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Re: Record numbers of Brits fleeing this rain sodden island.

Post by purplechoclate » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:07 pm

One of the people recently doing interviews on this matter is Dean Morgan from Workpermit, and he has absolutely no idea whatsoever about anything to do with people leaving the UK, he cannot even manage the company he respresents.

People have a multitude of reasons and circumstances to leave the UK and its only ignorant and misinformed people who start to make sweeping generalistaions. We left in March after finally dispensing with Dean Morgans incompetent cronies. We have a fantastic life and no we wouldn't come back, but each persons ' criteria' is just that !!!! Dean Morgan needs to shut up !!!

Hernancortes wrote:Just heard about it on the radio.
The weather and the high cost of living are the main reasons for leaving.
However, some ignoramuses cite immigrants in the UK as a reason for leaving.

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Post by ismangil » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:24 pm

Of course being a UK immigrant is a lot different than being a third-world immigrant like me!

So there is "immigrant" and there is "immigrant"...
Perry Ismangil

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Post by purplechoclate » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:35 pm

My point precisely - which is why people like Dean Morgan need to get their facts right before spouting off and making mass sweeping statements which are grossly inaccurate and can often cause offense to may different people.
ismangil wrote:Of course being a UK immigrant is a lot different than being a third-world immigrant like me!

So there is "immigrant" and there is "immigrant"...

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Re: Record numbers of Brits fleeing this rain sodden island.

Post by sakura » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:40 pm

purplechoclate wrote:One of the people recently doing interviews on this matter is Dean Morgan from Workpermit, and he has absolutely no idea whatsoever about anything to do with people leaving the UK, he cannot even manage the company he respresents.

People have a multitude of reasons and circumstances to leave the UK and its only ignorant and misinformed people who start to make sweeping generalistaions. We left in March after finally dispensing with Dean Morgans incompetent cronies. We have a fantastic life and no we wouldn't come back, but each persons ' criteria' is just that !!!! Dean Morgan needs to shut up !!!

Hernancortes wrote:Just heard about it on the radio.
The weather and the high cost of living are the main reasons for leaving.
However, some ignoramuses cite immigrants in the UK as a reason for leaving.
Can you explain to me just what he said that you think was so wrong?

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Post by Dawie » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:46 pm

ismangil wrote:Of course being a UK immigrant is a lot different than being a third-world immigrant like me!

So there is "immigrant" and there is "immigrant"...
That's absolute rubbish. There is no such thing as a third-world immigrant and a first-world immigrant. An immigrant is an immigrant, full stop.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by sakura » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:06 pm

Dawie wrote:
ismangil wrote:Of course being a UK immigrant is a lot different than being a third-world immigrant like me!

So there is "immigrant" and there is "immigrant"...
That's absolute rubbish. There is no such thing as a third-world immigrant and a first-world immigrant. An immigrant is an immigrant, full stop.
But there certainly is different/preferential treatment of immigrants from different parts of the world. I think that's what he meant. e.g. Japanese and Chinese immigrants are not treated the same.

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Post by Dawie » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:55 am

I doubt the average Brit could tell the difference between a Japanese and Chinese person.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by sakura » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:06 am

Dawie wrote:I doubt the average Brit could tell the difference between a Japanese and Chinese person.
No, but they would treat them differently once they knew where they were from. I was referring more to the fact that one group are from a wealthy, industrialised country (and so are not commonly referred to as "illegal immigrants/scroungers", etc) whereas the other group are from a poorer country and (some of them) are generally looked at, and treated, suspiciously. We can use other groups - (white) Australians and Indians (look totally different), white South Africans and black South Africans, etc.

So, to assume all immigrants are treated the same isn't correct IMO.

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Post by Shan12 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:32 am

Well a rather telling aspe3ct is that Brits refer to themselves as ex-pats and not as immigrants... I fear the irony has escaped them.

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Post by Dawie » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:39 am

Shan12 wrote:Well a rather telling aspe3ct is that Brits refer to themselves as ex-pats and not as immigrants... I fear the irony has escaped them.
I'm afraid that's the legacy of being a colonialist. It's not only the Brits, but also other nations that used to be great colonial powers such as Spain and France also have that same arrogant mindset. You only have to see how a Spanish person in Latin America behaves or a French person in Morocco.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by Christophe » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:57 am

Well of course there is the old story about the English arriving off the ferry at Calais in the early years of the twentieth century, in the days when there were two gates there, one labelled Les français ("French people"), the other labelled Les étrangers ("Foreigners"). Many an English person, so the story goes, went through the gate labelled Les français and, when challenged, replied "Well, we can't be foreigners because we're English."

True? Who knows? (I note that the story is always told of "the English", rather than "the British".)

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Post by avjones » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:46 pm

Christophe wrote:Well of course there is the old story about the English arriving off the ferry at Calais in the early years of the twentieth century, in the days when there were two gates there, one labelled Les français ("French people"), the other labelled Les étrangers ("Foreigners"). Many an English person, so the story goes, went through the gate labelled Les français and, when challenged, replied "Well, we can't be foreigners because we're English."

True? Who knows? (I note that the story is always told of "the English", rather than "the British".)
There is also the old Express headline, "Fog In Channel - Continent Cut Off"
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