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BREXIT-- Threat or Opportunity

This is the area of this board to discuss the referendum taking place in the UK on 23rd June 2016. Also to discuss the ramifications of the EU-UK deal.

Differing views will be respected. Rudeness to other members will not be welcome.

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Obie
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Re: BREXIT-- Threat or Opportunity

Post by Obie » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:17 pm

Unfortunately that is England's problem.

They wanted brexit and they have got a brexit foreign secretary .

How he mingles with the world is up to the government.


He is the foreign Secretary, and on that capacity, he will be the face of Britain in the world and that includes the EU against whom he has referred to as Nazi institution, Turkey NATO partner whose leader he has depicted having sexual intercourse with a goat, America whose president he has used dearly beloved slur against on the basis of his kenya's ancestory.

So yes, welcome to the New UK.

No surprises that Scotland is desperate to get out.
Smooth seas do not make skilful sailors

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Re: BREXIT-- Threat or Opportunity

Post by Wanderer » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:22 pm

Obie wrote:Unfortunately that is England's problem.

They wanted brexit and they have got a brexit foreign secretary .

How he mingles with the world is up to the government.


He is the foreign Secretary, and on that capacity, he will be the face of Britain in the world and that includes the EU against whom he has referred to as Nazi institution, Turkey NATO partner whose leader he has depicted having sexual intercourse with a goat, America whose president he has used dearly beloved slur against on the basis of his kenya's ancestory.

So yes, welcome to the New UK.

No surprises that Scotland is desperate to get out.
I believe he's also said black people have lower IQ's; I've no idea why this guy is allowed to be in any position of authority.....
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Re: BREXIT-- Threat or Opportunity

Post by Obie » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:05 pm

I doubt think black or minority people cares much of how Borris think of them.

I think the interesting thing about this, is that it provides a good insight into the mindset of this brexit people.
Enable the world to see and understand clearly, what sort of people they are dealing with.
Smooth seas do not make skilful sailors

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Re: BREXIT-- Threat or Opportunity

Post by Petaltop » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:06 pm

ouflak1 wrote:
Obie wrote:Sweden and German are there nations that no one can criticise for their hospitality and compassion.

History will indeed judge them favourably.
I just don't think I can agree with that. Their open-arms attitude directly resulted in the deaths of thousands of men, women and children (some of their bodies washing up on the beach). It was irresponsible to the point of gross inhumane immorality on a mass scale. If they really had any compassion, they would have sent planes and ships to the Middle East and Africa, and assured all of those migrants safe passage. Instead, these people are fleeced for everything they own before being tossed onto crates that cannot be described as 'seaworthy' before being dropped into Europe to scurry around begging for asylum. They are stripped of their possessions and their basic human dignity, and that's assuming they even survived the trip.

No, I think history will take a dim view of those that encouraged that tragedy to happen like it has.
Well said.

For those that did make it, Germany have been returning migrants to the EU country from which they entered Germany - after Merkal had invited them to Germany.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35352828

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Re: BREXIT-- Threat or Opportunity

Post by kankerot » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:36 pm

So we have

NHS under extreme stress
Schools full to the rafters
Under investment in Infrastructure
Not enough homes being built
Rising Tuition fees

But we also have
Records bonuses and profits for bankers
Hinkley C Reactor - £25bn and rising
HS2 - £55bn and rising
Trident - £200bn

If you want to blame anyone blame the politicians for creating an economy that rewards the financiers and then conveniently blames EU migrants which the public lap up.

All you need to remember is this - You as the public

Won't own it. won't build it, won't control it, but damn sure you will pay for it.

As long as the public are more interested in music and entertainment then they will get the lack of services and governments their apathy deserve.

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Re: BREXIT-- Threat or Opportunity

Post by ryuzaki » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:35 am

kankerot wrote:NHS under extreme stress
Schools full to the rafters
Under investment in Infrastructure
Not enough homes being built
Rising Tuition fees

...

If you want to blame anyone blame the politicians
Agreed. Blaming immigration for this is just beloved. It's our failure to deal with it that is the problem, not immigration.

I accept that some people worried about this stuff are not dearly beloved, but the "blame immigration" idea is itself dearly beloved and needs to be stamped out.

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